Natalya reigned supreme last Sunday at Hell in a Cell with the help of a chair. But is she still standing tall in tonight’s fallout? Or will Charlotte Flair take her down a few pegs? Let’s see what happened this week on SmackDown Live!

Before the night’s events, Carmella is seen drinking some water with James Ellsworth by her side – in which, he’s holding the water bottle in his mouth. After some barking from Ellsworth, Carmella allows him to have some too, but his water is in a dog bowl. Riveting stuff!

The Queen of Black Harts is patting herself on the back, expressing just how “good” it feels for her to still be champion. Although in a somewhat agreement, the Ravishing Lana says that the championship will look “much, much better” on Tamina. Carmella then adds her two cents and says that unlike Tamina, her fantasy is a lot more “real.” Get her!

The champ then decides to get everyone on the same page by saying that although they disagree about the current champion, they all know that Charlotte doesn’t deserve to hold it. And speak of the Devil and she shall arrive…

Before Flair can say anything, Natalya asks: “why the long boo boo face?” Weird, but okay. “Did you break your pathetic father’s heart again?” Ouch.

Charlotte, without much hesitation, punches the champ across the face, sending her to the ground. Carmella and Tamina attempt to stop the attack, but Becky Lynch and Naomi chase them away. As the referees then pull Flair away, Natalya crawls for freedom. She really upset the lion here.

Let’s move on to the match!

Becky, feeling furious from the previous encounter, goes straight to Carmella to take her down. Miss Money On The Bank scrambles to safety, screaming her way away from the Lass Kicker. However, each time she attempts an escape, the former Women’s champion stops her. At one point, the Princess of Staten Island rushes outside and gets behind Ellsworth, whom is blocking Lynch. Taking advantage of this, ‘Mella kicks Becky’s legs to damager her a little.

Fortunately for Becky, she takes advantage. And pretty soon, she has Carmella tapping to the Dis-Arm-Her. Good for Becky! Finally she gets a win, and it only took her 84 years to get it!

Thoughts: So it’s a quiet night for the SmackDown ladies. Not a lot happens, and it’s hard to tell what direction we’re going in. But at least it’s something.

A year ago, a night like this would be seen as a huge disappointment. It’d be frustrating to see the women have a passable match with no development. Whereas in the current state, it’s almost a treat. It’s not the best, as it’s so dull. But with how repetitive and monotone SmackDown has felt, seeing a different match makes the division feel a little more unique for once. Lynch and Carmella have good chemistry, and as two women on the opposite ends of the heel/face spectrum, it’s nice to see that play out.

If only the two would have a feud so that we could have something extra on the side…

What’s frustrating about the title picture is that it’s the only source of women’s action we see on the blue brand. The last set of women were allowed to have two or three feuds at once. So when it came to the title picture, it didn’t feel as though the other ladies were being robbed, and thus allowing everybody to join the entire division. Now we have to settle for two women to be in the spotlight whilst everybody else is left waiting for backstage brawls so that they can jump on camera for a hot second.

There’s a briefcase holder that openly admits to never needing a title shot, so why is she constantly surrounding the champion? Carmella should be as far away from the title picture as possible so that her inevitable cash-in can be a surprise. Seth Rollins had one of the (arguably) greatest cash-ins of all time, and that’s for multiple reasons. One of them is the fact that on the night of his cash-in, he was involved in a completely different feud, thus diverging the attention from his briefcase. Carmella has Becky, Naomi, Lana and Tamina to feud with yet is hardly interacting with any of them. So hopefully tonight’s match is a sign of things changing. Or so I hope.

Sticking to the topic of Carmella, I would be eve so delighted if the Ellsworth story would be dropped. Him acting like a dog is far from funny and forces a cringe every time either one of the two come out. There are other ways to humiliate a character, but making them act like a dog is not one of them.

One positive from this is the aggression from Charlotte is really helping her face run. Flair is a good competitor, but something about her just doesn’t allow the talent to be the true babyface she needs to be right now. And after years of build-up and praise, it’s practically impossible to make her an underdog. So to see her use her strength and frame to be dominant is what we need. She can be a good guy, but she shouldn’t be a weakling. And allowing her relationship with Ric to be involved is a wonderful way of giving her a connection with the audience. Fans love Ric, so to see him being disrespected is going to get them riled up. And it’ll definitely get them to stand behind whomever is sticking up for him.

This episode isn’t the best. But in comparison to the repetitive promos and matches of the previous weeks, it’s not the worst we’ve seen. We need to see more effort put into the entire division. Natalya is a great champion, but not allowing the other women to do their own thing makes her reign look dull. Use the women, but allow them to be in their own non-title feuds so things can feel fresh and diverse.

What do you think of this episode? What feuds would you like to see? Let us know your views in the comments below!

  • Carmella having Ellsworth on a leash, incapable of doing anything to help her, defeats the very purpose of their pairing. And it’s not even funny.

    • Danny?

      I was thinking this earlier when watching the match. The only reason Carmella won matches was when James got involved.

  • Whoever wrote for the episode of THIS SmackDown! needs to come back and save the current product…

    • Jo9834

      This was one of the best SD womens moments EVER. I really had high hopes for the MITB match but sadly, this segment out performed both of those matches combined.

  • wwepassion

    They really aren’t using the perfect opportunity to build Carmella up, yea she will make some noise when she cashes in but after that it will go back to people being confused on how to react towards her, Please build her up NOW she has so much potential.

  • Joseph

    Did the Four Horsewomen have a secret meeting or something? Whats with the elbows this week, first Bayley and Sasha elbow the shit out of each other on Monday then on Tuesday Charlotte elbow the hell out of Nattie.

    • TorrieTrishStacyLita

      Friend you didn’t get an invite to the secret elbow meeting? Did I forget to forward that?

    • KellyAJNaomi#Slay

      “Did the Four Horsewomen have a secret meeting or something? Whats with the elbows this week” lmfao

      • Joseph

        Well was just wondering.

    • perceval

      Practicing for someone who those work very well on…

      http://i.imgur.com/2sWOv5C.gif?noredirect

  • Hoooshi

    Nattie’s deliver is so bad, SO bad. I know the script sucks, but someone with better mic skills could have saved it. And seriously WWE, the only way to make us like Charlotte is reminding us of her dad? Is this 2015 again?

    Carmella was pulling a Kelly Kelly with all those screams. Tone it down girl. And what is Ellsworth point again? If they keep it like this when Carmella cashes in no one will care.

    • KellyAJNaomi#Slay

      I love kelly but those screams needed to be stopped so I hoep Carmella don’t start with that shit

      • perceval

        “COME ON, NAOMI!”

        • Gerg

          “COME ON, AJ!” x12

          • Dylan Gutierrez

            “Come on Nikki!”

        • KellyAJNaomi#Slay

          Ugh the one thing I didn’t like about her I had to mute my TV sometimes like girl zip it trash talk but don’t scream??????

          • perceval

            Kelly screams “COME ON, NAOMI!” throughout the match. Primo cheers AJ…

            Kelly: SHUT UP, PRIMO!

            Cole: Kelly just told Primo to shut up…

    • perceval

      Speaking of Kelly, she’s single, again.

    • Kelly/Asuka???RainbowGoddess!

      Are you coming for Kelly?

  • YonceLuvsDivas

    I have some good news for all my Summer Rae fans. She is actually not retiring. I asked her about what she meant by “she wished her and Sasha had a feud” on instagram. This is what she replied…. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/607ab8c1c365f9c9a98f1e3a22343c4d83f1ab547b211839654cb8713d97cacb.jpg

    • KellyAJNaomi#Slay

      Yass Queen please stay

    • Danny?

      Queen needs to return to SmackDown and save the division!!

      • Joseph

        Paige is already going to SD.

        • Danny?

          Yeah and Summer can join her.

          • Joseph

            Paige has a spot on SD Summer doesn’t.

          • Danny?

            Who says Summer can’t get a spot

          • Joseph

            What spot is she gonna have on SD? Shes gonna be a jobber on either show.

          • Danny?

            She has the skills to be a major player in the division, Carmella is Miss MITB so if she can get that then Summer definitely deserves a spot.

          • Joseph

            Well they don’t have a spot for Summer right now.

          • Kvngbalor

            It’s funny how ppl tell you what WWE has and who they have a spot for and etc as if their under contract and work behind the scenes

          • Joseph

            You can send Dana down to the P.C. and you can have Summer replace her spot on the RAW roster.

          • Kvngbalor

            If Alexa Bliss can become a 4 time women’s champion so can Summer

          • Joseph

            You can’t compare Alexa to Summer.

          • Kvngbalor

            I just did … This is WWE Natalya is the womens champion and Jinder Mahal is World Champion never say never who knows what the writers on SD can do with her talents

          • Summer_Slay #?aryn?errell

            Yeah, Summer has the best mic skills on all 3 rosters, can wrestle and sells.

          • YonceLuvsDivas

            She honestly the fifth woman in the fourhorse women. But we won’t know that! They never let her showcase it. I kind of wish WWE never brought her up with Fandango and let her stay in NXT wit Sasha,Bayley, Charlotte and Becky so they all can come up together. She could’ve been part of that magical fatal four way that put all those women on the map.

          • Summer_Slay #?aryn?errell

            Paige cant leave and hit the door on her exit if she want. I have no respect for her and for what she’s done. Bye, careful not to overdose. Clear a spot for someone that actually works hard to get it aka Duo, Cross, Moon or Morgan.

    • I still don’t understand how people thought that post was even a retirement hint.

      • YonceLuvsDivas

        I guess when she say wished they thought she meant they’ll never get the chance.

    • ???

      I love her and she’s way too underrated, but let face the truth .. she has been in WWE for 4 years and she still hasn’t got any single one on one match for any championship (not counting NXT)

      She will leave sooner or later, WWE may even release her look what happened to Cameron.. Cam had alot of potential and went down to NXT to improve and she was one of the best female talkers in the WWE yet they didn’t utilize her talent and screwed her .. same thing will happen to Summer Rae.

      • YonceLuvsDivas

        I’ve been scared they’ll Cameron her and give her that call to tell her they have nothing more for her.

        • Summer_Slay #?aryn?errell

          Girl, please no.

          • YonceLuvsDivas

            I’m praying they don’t!

      • Summer_Slay #?aryn?errell

        FlopFoley cancelled her pushes. Saying she wasnt as good as the other 4 nxt girls (Char, Becky, Sasha and that slow kindergarten girl Pamela)

        • Joseph

          Jesus never seen someone butthurt about Bayley.

  • They need to fix their division. It’s boring. That backstage brawl should’ve culminated in 3 singles matches. Nattie vs Charlotte or Naomi (if they wanna save Charlotte vs Nattie for starcade) Tamina vs Charlotte or Naomi, and Becky vs Carmella

  • Juat call up Ember and the Iconic Duo

    • conan_kun

      They may not appear on main roster before Survivor Series or else it will spoil Ember or Peyton won’t win NXT women title at NXT Takeover: War Games

      • If they dont win there is nothing left for them on NXT. Its not like winning the title is a window into their futures. They shouldn’t be wasted and SDL needs them more. NXT still has Nikki, kairi, liv, Aliyah, ruby, Bianca Belair, lacey evans…they are still stacked in NXT

    • Kelly/Asuka???RainbowGoddess!

      I can see Peyton and Billie being called up after Survivor Series. Ember though if she wins at Takeover, she’ll be on NXT a little longer like a good chuck of 2018. I see a late 2018 MR debut for Ember.

      • I dont see Ember winning though. Who would her main competition be? They’ve already painted Kairi as this beast in the ring. Face vs face feuds seem to only work in NXT so they could go that route. Idk. I feel like Ember lost all her credibility in NXT when they had Asuka kick out of the Eclipse. She needs to be called up soon.

        • Kelly/Asuka???RainbowGoddess!

          It wasn’t any woman that kicked out of the Eclipse, it was freaken Asuka lol I see them keeping her another year to help carry the division, to help the newer girls develop more. Bayley was in NXT for over 3 years while Asuka was there for almost 2 years.

          • That’s true. I get that it’s Asuka. And I love Asuka but they should’ve been building a second finisher for Ember and had Asuka kick out of that and avoid the Eclipse. They’ve been essentially building the Eclipse as the most devastating women’s finisher in recent history and they have her kick out of it. Idk. I can’t wait to see her compete against Naomi, Charlotte Sasha etc

          • Kelly/Asuka???RainbowGoddess!

            Ember’s time gonna come and I see her easily being called up next year because I don’t think we are getting 500+ days reigns on NXT any time soon, so hopefully we’ll get new champs added to the record books!

    • PYM #TakeOverSmackdown

      The iconic duo aren’t established enough yet. I wouldn’t even say either of them are very over down in NXT too. Ember is the same way, they all can stay in NXT for now because they still can use it.

    • Monkey Tennis

      How is that a solution?

      If the WWE aren’t willing to do anything interesting with the roster they already have (and aren’t even using most of ’em outside of random appearances/matches), then what is gained by adding even more talented women onto the roster to be equally underutilised and/or badly booked?

      • You say that however, the Diva’s revolution and the newfound emphasis on women’s wrestling all began with calling up NXT talent. The brand split, it made things interesting, even after the shakeup there were storylines and the division wasn’t boring.
        When there is a major shift in talent there is a renewed emphasis on making things interesting again. So yes, it can be a solution. New contenders, new rivalries, a new fire lit within the women’s division

  • Danny?

    TRASH week for SD! and it’s been the same for weeks. What happened to SD! It used to be so great. I miss Naomi so much.

    • KellyAJNaomi#Slay

      Me too girl

    • perceval

      Remember when we were told she would be champ all year? Kinda like that Alexa vs Nia one on one PPV match…

      • Malcolm James

        That shit was funny Naomi fans was dancing in the street when they heard that

        • perceval

          Just never assume the dirt sheets are accurate.

          • Michael Burmeister

            It only said she’d be champ “going into” 2018…not that she’d stay champ all the way until then.

            So that just means she’ll win the title back by year’s end…hopefully around Christmas time.

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    • Summer_Slay #?aryn?errell

      Lets pretend that Naomi was the reason SDL women’s division was better. Things started going downhill after she won the title for the 2nd time. And while i have nothing against that, Naomi did deserve a title reign after all the hard work she’s done for the comany. However not only that she had 2 title reigns but they also both flopped. Having Nobodycaresaboutmentina and Youshovedmedownpeoplesthroatswheniwasgreenlana isnt helping the brand at all. So i hope we get another draft that can shake things up. If they move Tamina and Becky to RAW they will have a heel and a face jobbers that are irrelevant at this point so it wont hurt anyone but them but as i said they are irrelevant at this point. Also have alicia, summer and emma debut to fill up the no strong heels spot and have that adult movie actress debut as face.

      • Danny?

        I never said Naomi’s reign was perfect, or that I wanted her back as champion for that matter, but she did the best she could with what the writing team gave her. It’s not just the women’s division on SD that has declined, it’s been the entire brand. The writers got hella lazy and threw all the women into one storyline and didn’t make the title the focus like it should have been and as such Naomi’s title reign suffered. I wouldn’t say it was a flop, she was still over as champion and the first reign didn’t last long enough to flop. Besides I was just saying I miss Naomi cause she is my favourite woman on SDL and I just wanna see her in a side feud with Tamina cause Carmella is just trash and I can’t deal with her bland ass anymore.

      • MyleneCruz

        But that’s nobody fault but creative they didn’t give naomi the feuds she deserved because they were plotting how to get it away from her. They handed my gurl the title out of sympathy and for shock value they never had intentions of making her dominating champion which to me comes back to her being black. THAT’S MY OPINION IDC DON’T @ ME!!

        • Summer_Slay #?aryn?errell

          Im @-ing you.

          • MyleneCruz

            And you would be who? Oh irrelevant.

          • Summer_Slay #?aryn?errell

            stop the xanax, it causes you way too much memory loss

          • MyleneCruz

            Ooohh BURN!!!! Trick bye!

        • PYM #TakeOverSmackdown

          But still regardless if it’s creative’s fault or not it still did nothing for the division. So what you’re saying is even if her reign was good it wouldn’t be because of her it would be because of creative right? Something’s gotta give here because not everything is because of creative. WWE is about taking the ball and running with it no matter what you’re given. Y’all wanted a Naomi reign and that’s what it was gonna be. And people wonder why I never cared for her being champion… I knew it was gonna be boring. But nope I’m called a racist for having a realistic opinion.

          • MyleneCruz

            Whaaaat??! Are we talking about the same WWE! Of course it’s creative. Anyone and I do Mena anyone can be a top tier star if WWE creative ALLOWS it to happen. And regardless of how you or I feel they’re ppl who love Naomi and what she brings to the table. Yal hate my girl for no reason. Everything is blamed on creative but when it comes to Naomi now it’s her fault foh.

          • PYM #TakeOverSmackdown

            it’s not even that I hate Naomi (she seems like a terrific person outside of the ring) I just don’t think she’s a very good wrestler, like I said, she’s not championship material. Her reign felt like a complete waste of time and I knew that was gonna be the case during her reign.

          • Jaded

            Your opinion is irrelevant.
            She an OK wrestler just like Charlotte only isn’t allocated 30 minutes or randomly thrown into a cage to make history.

          • PYM #TakeOverSmackdown

            No she’s not anything like Charlotte in the ring. Charlotte can wrestle circles around Naomi and that’s a fact not even an opinion.

          • MyleneCruz

            In your opinion she is not championship material. We will agree to disagree. Good day.

          • Jaded

            Charlotte’s reigns were boring too but I don’t see you talking about it

          • PYM #TakeOverSmackdown

            How were they boring? She atleast defended her title in high stake matches. So no don’t even try that. Maybe boring to you because she was whooping Sasha’s ass week in and week out. ?

          • Jaded

            Sasha has pinned Charlotte three times more than Charlotte has pinned her.
            Girl go sit at a corner.

          • PYM #TakeOverSmackdown

            Sasha is the Lita to Charlotte’s Trish.

          • Jaded

            Charlotte is no trish .
            LMAO at the audacity!
            Maybe trish on a drag.

          • PYM #TakeOverSmackdown

            Seethe ugly hater bitch

          • PYM #TakeOverSmackdown

            Scrm at you counting. Tbh. Just shows you cry every time Charlotte whoops Sasha’s ass.

          • MyleneCruz

            I said I what I said and yes I do think if she had a good run WWE creative should absolutely get props for it I mean these are the ppl that approve everything before we see it on television. Nao is a fan favorite among st many except you few .

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    • PYM #TakeOverSmackdown

      Naomi’s reign hurt SD I feel like.

      • Danny?

        Let’s not go there, it had nothing to do with Naomi’s reign. If you wanna go there I could say Charlotte on SD hurt the division cause she was the reason for the welcoming committee and as such less importance was put on the title. It was the shitty writing team that ruined it and none of the blame should be on the girls.

        • PYM #TakeOverSmackdown

          How could Charlotte hurt the division when we got the first ever women’s MITB match? I’m sure she had a lot to do with the SD women getting that. She hasn’t even been pushed so no you can’t say it’s Charlotte on SD. If she was pushed and won the title by now SD would be in a much better position than now.

          • Danny?

            Naomi may have had the title but her reign was never at the forefront of the division and the title was never treated the way it should have been. She had two title defences at PPVs one against Lana and the other against Nattie where she lost. She should have been defending the title at every PPV instead of that stupid 6 woman tag match and #1 contenders match which could have taken place on a regular SD episode. Stop blaming Naomi for the bad booking when if it was Charlotte in her position you would be blaming the writing staff. We all know the writing is at fault cause they can’t come up with a compelling story. Plus look Charlotte is getting a push now and it’s even worse but I ain’t blaming her cause I know it’s the writing, just like Naomi did Charlotte is doing the best she can with what she’s been given.

          • PYM #TakeOverSmackdown

            Okay. But she was the champ therefore she’s a shit champion who should have never had a 100+ day reign just to never defend the title. Lucky Charlotte didn’t whoop and embarrass her ass making her reign a Sasha reign.

  • Smackdown was real baldheaded. There’s some directions I feel they can go in leading to Survivor Series but we’ll see https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cc3278bd59d5d0b37eb4ba3701d658b84809257d47d8ef106cd124946ebc819b.jpg

  • ???

    I was thinking about staying up all night just to watch SDL yesterday , and THANK GOODNESS I slept because it was bullshit.

    The backstage segment when everyone were fighting for no fucking reason was cringy , the only good thing was when Charlotte attacking Natalya .. otherwise noooo . And what Naomi was doing ? So she fight the villians because she’s with the “Heroes” ? Doesn’t make any sense .

    As the writer said, one year ago such episode would be huge disappointment..

    Where’s the “Ravishing Revolution ” that they were building it up for WEEKS ?

    What are Naomi and Becky’s directions ?

    Why we don’t get side feuds other than only one “Title feud” ?

    • Joseph

      They realize Lana sucks and killed off her push.

      • ???

        I was talking about Lana’s Ravishing Revolution for Tamina ..it seems like they wanted to make Tamina a threat but they stopped.

        • Guilherme Soares

          Wish they drop Tamina and Summer return and be a Team with Lana…

          • Lucas

            oi amiga, você é brasileira também?

          • Guilherme Soares

            sou sim amiga! ???

      • Dylan Gutierrez

        Lana can hold her own on the mic which is a good thing but she needs major work in the ring. She would have passed a few years ago as decent but now it doesn’t help unless she’s simply a valet like Terri, Stephanie McMahon (back in the day) who’d catfight rather than an actual match.

        I think her story should have been something similar to Allie in TNA trying to prove herself with the MITB ladder match and being rejected, training harder, being this huge babyface/tweener and impressing people with good ring skills. She may or may not have won the title but a good run until she goes back to heel and steals a championship, playing off promos on Charlotte, Naomi etc.

        The thing is her ring work limits her what she can do but her character (I miss the suits and skirts) and mannerisms/charisma is one point.

  • conan_kun

    Charlotte is one of the most natural female heel, acting like a sympathetic babyface when they have the current most natural babyface Becky. Speaking of Becky, hope this win can propel her to title picture, make it triple threat with her vs Charlotte vs Natalya.

    After losing the title, Naomi is become irrelevant once she’s out of title picture, she supposed to feud with Tamina. Lana and Tamina are just there, with Lana repeated saying Ravishing Revolution for nothing moving forward.

    Carmella is the first woman to ever hold MITB briefcase then losing most of the time, which is how they book most of the past Mr MITB. Having that briefcase makes you lose like most of the matches, how do the fans buy her as future SD women champ if she keeps losing.

  • DivaFactz

    Turn Charlotte heel and make her that monster she was on RAW. Problem solved. Making Charlotte a babyface was the worst move for SD women’s division. They have to many strong babyfaces with no strong villain.

    • ???

      Agree ! But it’s hard to turn Charlotte heel at the current time because of her father’s issues and the crowd are already behind her .. Becky and Naomi are way more over as faces so it’ll not work if they turn either of them!

      Charlotte is way better as a heel but since her father she’ll not be evil now ..

      They need top heel star from Raw or NXT , Emma ? Paige ? Iconic Duo ? Nikki Cross ?

    • perceval

      There’s that whole Horsewomen thing that may or may not be happening. Have to keep them all face if it does.

  • jabril

    So is it official? is Ronda Rousey going to debut ?

    • perceval

      If they are going to keep Jinder as champ, she may be needed to save the ratings.

      • jabril

        Lol

  • DayOneISH!

    I can’t help but think this gimmick Lana had/has could’ve just been givin to summer rae.If they can bring back tamina then why can’t summer come back?

    It’s not like she did anything bad backstage and she’s decent enough in the ring plus she can speak on the mic so I can’t see why she’s not on tv again.Please give her something to do WWE.

  • txistedbliss

    Kind of wanna see Lana follow through with moving Tamina up the ranks so we can see this third generation triple threat between Nattie, Charlotte and Tamina

  • jabril

    And omggg does raw have the better division right now ?? O.o

    • conan_kun

      Raw has better women division but Smackdown has better tag team division.

    • Kelly/Asuka???RainbowGoddess!

      Raw has a bigger roster, 8 women but for a long time only used half of them for weeks (Alexa, Nia, Sasha and Bayley). While the others were after thoughts. Just now Vince is using the others more. But RAW has the traditional booking, pushed talent vs. jobbers. Before Mickie’s current push, her, Emma, Fox and Dana have been booked so weak compared to the other girls.

  • eversogood94

    Smack down.. TRASH
    Raw … TRASH
    WWE … PURE FUCKING GARBAGE
    I’ve been a fan since I was 6 years old back in 2000 when Trish and Lita were killing it. The first match I ever saw was Trish vs Lita in a bras and panties match! That was far more entertaining than anything being put out right now. I’d prefer Dawn Marie and Torrie Wilson’s storyline versus anything that’s been put out as of late. It’s no wonder WWE is failing to sell out shows or at least even fill half the arena up. In all honesty it’s time for WWE to fall. They’re so inconsistent, bad booking, no story, no story progression (if there’s a story), snorefest matches, ZERO character… really …. WWE is done

    • YonceLuvsDivas

      I strongly miss the diva days compared to what we got now.

      • Kelly/Asuka???RainbowGoddess!

        Remember Lita cheating on Matt with Kane and then getting married to Kane and Trish was Lita unoffical maid of honor and Trish wore white. Lita got pregnant, and miscarried. 2004 was a roller coaster for Lita.

      • eversogood94

        Same here.
        Well the divas from 2000-2008! Starting from 2009 is when they stopped caring for them.

        • YonceLuvsDivas

          Give me from 2000 to about 2010. I need LayCool and their slayage!

          • Summer_Slay #?aryn?errell

            2000 to 2012 I need all of the above plus Kelly Kelly’s reign and Layla’s return.

          • YonceLuvsDivas

            Damn I thought I was hitting around that era. But yes I’m so wit you on the til 2012! I need Kelly, Eve, Layla and Kaitlyn title reigns. Anything before The Bella’s wit Total Divas and AJ Lee Armageddon!

          • KellyAJNaomi#Slay

            I could do without Kaitlyn’s tbh she only defended it once but I like what her and AJ did

          • YonceLuvsDivas

            She had gotten that feud wit Nattie and later dropped the title to AJ than I’d be fine.

          • Summer_Slay #?aryn?errell

            OMG, do you also not like AJ #bestie

          • YonceLuvsDivas

            I like AJ, I hate her long reign they gave her. #Bestie

    • jbrizzy

      Completely agree! I can’t even watch the shit anymore. Even Summerslam was a snooze fest to me. I am a true DIVA fan. Even though they Era was filled with terrible matches,the storylines,characters and glamour kept me tuning in every week. This Era may have great matches,but everything is completely forgettable since these great matches aren’t backed up with a great story. Smh!

  • DivaLicious?

    Lana & Tamina experiment needs too be dropped. Tamina is a waste of everybody tv time she horrible man.

    Another Charlotte & nattie match, can we please just give the title too Charlotte please, because I don’t wanna see another boring match like we seen at HELL IN THE CELL. Charlotte needs to be heel by the way. She is a boring face.

    Carmella wrestling style is a clear reflection of kelly Kelly & Maria kanellis just god awful. Moveset is the weakest I have ever seen. She just draws no real crowd reaction when she performing in the ring. Her weak signature bronco buster in the corner. If your gonna do a bronco buster do the right way like x-PAC use to do it. Without Ellsworth this girl is damage goods. I just see a jersey girl with a fake New York accent, big hair & Fake tan. She doesn’t have the in ring ability of a trish stratus, lita, Beth phonix, Gail Kim, ivory, jazz etc.. and these are legends that’s way past they prime. She can’t even lace up they shoes. I said this this the day she won MITB. That her cash in will be a fail.

    • PYM #TakeOverSmackdown

      Girl I’m starting to agree. Carmella as a champion is almost a joke considering Charlotte and Becky demolished her fairly quickly in singles competition recently. I don’t see her reigning over women who can easily beat her for long. And before someone replies “Look at Alexa..” Alexa has more in ring ability than Carmella. Alexa is a lot better than what some give her credit for. But back to Carmella; I didn’t want her to unsuccessfully cash in, but I’m starting not to care if it does at this point.

      • Sunny’s Therapist

        Alexa at least seems like she has some weight and force behind what she does, Carmella seems like she floats around.

    • Jo9834

      THIS is everything I was thinking and more. I never want to be a salty towards any of the girls, but sometimes, they bring down the overall product and division. Carmella had that one decent match against Bayley in NXT, and after that, she wrestles literally like a feather. She’s not a believable or physical threat in anyway, she’s not smart and calculating like AJ who was the same size…and gets lukewarm crowd reactions DESPITE being given opportunity after opportunity.

      • DivaLicious?

        Carmella just needs to work on herself in the performance center. A stronger moveset, story telling in the ring, selling moves, work on getting a better signature & finishing move. Her promos are excellent. But that’s pretty much it.

  • Kelly/Asuka???RainbowGoddess!

    I want to see Naomi! Put her in a side feud! She has a great gimmick and look and its being wasted. After losing her rematch, she hasn’t done anything. Why didn’t she get PPV rematch though? I know it doesn’t happen for every champ but she should have gotten one instead of being tossed aside 2 weeks after Summerslam.

  • Kelly/Asuka???RainbowGoddess!

    Also we are most likely getting 6 woman tag next week after that backstage fight.
    Charlotte/Naomi/Becky vs. Cat Lady Nattie/Lana’s body guard/Carmella

  • Kristina Buford

    The only good things about SD was Sami/Kevin segment and just Becky’s presence.

    Sami/Kevin is setting up to that WM Match everyone wants. And SD really needs Becky more in the spotlight, she is their only good baby face left that still gets reactions from the crowd and tries her sanders to put out the best product, yet they keep under utilizing her and it’s hurting the product. Crowd loves her, use her.

    • Kelly/Asuka???RainbowGoddess!

      Tbh I hated how her first title reign went. Becky would make a great fighting champ but wasn’t given the opportunity and was force to drop the strap to Blissly in her 2nd title defense and her first defense wasn’t a clean win…

    • You forgot Naomi?

      • Kristina Buford

        I kind of forgot about naomi All together.

  • Kelly/Asuka???RainbowGoddess!

    If there’s a Survivor Series tag elimination match I wonder how many women and who’s gonna be in it. Maybe 6 vs 6?
    Team RAW: Asuka, Sasha, Bayley, Alexa, Nia and ??? (Mickie, Fox, Dana or Emma)
    Team SD: Charlotte, Nattie, Naomi, Becky, Carmella and Tamina with Lana.

    • Dylan Gutierrez

      If they don’t do the rumored Horsewomen (WWE/Ronda thing)

      Asuka/Mickie/Sasha/Bayley/Nia/Emma

      Charlotte/Becky/Naomi/Natalya/Paige/Tamina

  • Kelly/Asuka???RainbowGoddess!

    If Billie and Peyton came to SD after Survivor Series, would you still want Charlotte to turn heel? That would leave Naomi and Becky as the sole babyfaces on SD while they would have to deal with Heel Charlotte, Nattie, Iconic Duo, Carmella, Tamina and Lana. Actually I forgot about Paige lol if the rumors are true. Heel Charlotte with Iconic Duo can work if we get a babyface Paige on SD to help balance things out.

    • Joseph

      Cause people have no patience. The fans are getting behind Charlotte as a face cause they know who she is now compare to when she debut in 2015.

  • PYM #TakeOverSmackdown

    Yawn….. Smackdown needs to start doing 2 women’s matches a night or I’m about to stop tuning in for it. Or atleast trying to rush home from work to watch a bunch of talking… Come on! Carmella vs Becky is all they could think of? This is kinda why I wish Asuka went to SD, because there is literally only 7 women in this division right now. I know there are Paige rumors, but I don’t even care about that crackhead tbh…. like… lmao but seriously though, I only want her to return just to revive this dead ass division. I really do love Nattie but, damn, her reign has turned out to be a snooze fest and I know she deserves a terrific reign and all but this isn’t cutting it. So sad Charlotte is being put on the waiting list on becoming champion…. she’s currently sitting at 6 reigns right now and they’re probably too shook to just up and hand her the title because of Trish’s record breaking 7 women’s title reigns.. technically Trish is at 8 if you want to count the Hardcore title. But yeah, I’m hoping if they don’t pull the plug on Charlotte’s title reign in the near future that they wait until Wrestlemania where they can make it a big deal on her becoming a 7 time women’s champion. Unless, Mickie does it first at TLC next Sunday but my bet is that Alexa will retain.

    • Sunny’s Therapist

      the thing about Trish’s 7 title reigns is that it was an entirely different belt in a different division, in a different era. lots of girls have multiple reigns now, the OG womens title was treated with respect for the most part during the Trish era and not passed around back and forth so quickly like this new one is. In my eyes there is no comparison, it took A LOT more to get multiple title reigns back in the day. Jazz, Molly, Victoria, for examples, all only had 2 reigns and they are all incredible workers. The title reigns today seem a little hollow.

      • PYM #TakeOverSmackdown

        What I’m saying about Trish’s title reigns is that Charlotte and Mickie are both at 6 reigns right now. If any of them win another title they will be tied with Trish and I don’t know if WWE is quite ready to have someone do that yet. It has nothing to do with what era any of them are from, it’s just a record that is about to be broken. I agree the Raw women’s title has been passed around quickly. But not SD’s. I don’t think it’s necessarily a bad thing that a title gets passed around quickly. It has only happened when Sasha won the title anyways so that in itself tells its story.

        • Dylan Gutierrez

          I think they include the Diva’s Championship as one because it was the female title and I guess since it was retired/replaced with the Women’s Title at WM, they call it one. I don’t see the Hardcore Title being a reign to count as it’s it own division, lineage, entity only won by a female.

          • PYM #TakeOverSmackdown

            thats an interesting way to look at it. but regardless, how I see it, Charlotte has won 3 legitimate titles 6 times all together. imo that’s just about the same thing.

        • Sunny’s Therapist

          its not even the same belt with the same title history. the raw womens championship is not the wwf/wwe womens championship that is retired. using that logic you could say john cena has passed ric flair in title reigns because you could count his US title reign and tag reigns, etc. no one will ever beat Trish’s record with the womens title unless they bring it out of retirement.

          • PYM #TakeOverSmackdown

            US isn’t a world title, and Tag titles don’t count because it’s not a singles title. Charlotte and Mickie have all done the same thing Trish has done by winning a WOMEN’S TITLE 6 times. It doesn’t matter if it’s not the same title Trish won or 3 or 2 seperate titles it’s still is an impressive accolade. John Cena tied Ric by winning the WWE title 13 times and the heavyweight title 3 times. So…

  • Kiana Taylor
  • conan_kun
    • PYM #TakeOverSmackdown

      Aww queens

    • Welchy

      Queens

  • Matt

    SmackDown is real trash right now. Love Nattie but she’s not fit to carry the division, we need more single side-feud like Naomi vs Tamina and Lana with Paige’ s return helping Naomi, Becky vs Carmella and Ellsworth in a feud and not random matches…SmackDown needs to return the show it was last year when they have single and proper feud, development every single weeks and not this shit. I no more enjoy the show since a very long time, Road Dogg please, I’ve got two words for ya… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d4dcec9645f365b4e8436ab8075bc31952e19abc2d7c7e44a9e3235650fa11f1.gif

    • conan_kun

      Strange to see that tag team division is Smackdown’s best thing today when it’s non-existent before Shakeup, perhaps because Road Dogg is tag team player during his in-ring career.

      • Matt

        Uso’s vs New Day is something that I loved and the only good thing in SmackDown right now but that’s because Vince wants New Day as multiple champions because otherwise Road Dogg couldn’t write something good willingly. Jinder Mahal is still champ, Bobby Roode has no direction, Shinsuke Nakamura loses all his in ring-charme and I started to like him no more, the Ravishing Revolution what, when and where?Tamina and Lana are barely used on TV, Rusev always loses…that’s not a show I like.

  • A less than 3 minute match in this “new era?”
    How tragic. What was the point of this match anyways? Where’s Naomi? What happened to the Tamina/Lana angle. Why hasn’t Lana wrestled since her 700 title match opportunities?
    Weird that Raw is better for the women these days…

  • SD needs another hour. Not even Jinder had TV time this episode. They just have too many stories going on.

  • Aye Mate

    Okay, before I begin I should say I thought it was unintentional hilarity that the backstage segment ended with Charlotte pushing away the referees and ceasing her attack while Nattie was obviously still lying beneath her. All in all, it was a clumsily scripted and executed sequence which did nothing for me.

    Smackdown might be warming the pot with the title feud here but I’m decidedly bored of the division. It’s also as I feared: WWE has failed to capitalise on the genuine respect Charlotte has earned across her audience thanks to first rate performances in the ring and her accompanying character growth; now she’s gone back to being simply Ric Flair’s daughter. WWE has failed to understand that Charlotte’s namesake was a barrier in getting her over as an individual and hinging on the coattails of her Father’s legacy was a crucial reason why her initial face run on the main roster flopped.

    Unfortunately, then, the entirety of last year which Charlotte spent honing her ring presence and overall persona has been de-emphasised to play up to her Father’s genuine issues with poor health, while Natalya’s reverted into a one dimensional comic strip who spouts the same diatribe about the Harts vs Flairs. Given how consistently awful Nattie’s promos are, you would think common sense would dictate that creative just unleash the pure-bred wrestler she’s clearly suited to being. But nope, Nattie has cat themed merch she needs to shift so let’s go down the parody route.

    Elsewhere, I’m obviously happy that Becky Lynch records her strongest showing in months. Initially I was very receptive to Carmella winning the MITB (both times) but she’s done absolutely nothing with it, it hasn’t progressed her character or ring skills, and I don’t imagine that’s likely to change in the event she procures her first championship. So, unapologetically, I’d dump the angle with Ellsworth by having him factor into costing Carmella the briefcase against Naomi or Becky.

  • Jo9834

    The Carmella Ellsworth storyline is beyond disgusting. Womens wrestlings fans and wrestlers SCREAMED for equality, but I guarantee if it were a female in Ellsworths position (barking, with a collar and drinking from a bowl) it would be a media storm like no other. Smackdown needs to let Carmella be a VALET for Big Cass, she would slay in a Rated R Lita type role.

    As for Nattie, she’s had ten years to sort herself out, and i’m ready for her to retire post this championship and make room for the likes of Ruby or Ember to take her spot. I can’t with her cardboard delivery OR softcore super boring matches anymore.

    • Moan of ‘Licia

      Big Cass has no sex appeal at all, and Carmella doesn’t have much charm either. Nor does she get any heat on her own. A Rated R dynamic wouldn’t work in the slightest.

      • PYM #TakeOverSmackdown

        Carmella is decently attractive. But I would agree that she doesn’t have very much sex appeal.

      • Jo9834

        LOL Big Cass isn’t the sexiest beast to walk the woods I agree HOWEVER, I think both he and Carmella would be able to pull of a decent pairing. She would be great verbally battling guys in the mid-card and he’d back it up in the ring.

    • Shan

      I agree with everything but Nattie. I like her.

      • Jo9834

        Don’t get me wrong, I don’t dislike Nattie at all, its just that she bores me and it annoys me that she is so clearly talented but chooses to play it safe and never improves or advances at all. For a ten year career she’s had only a couple of standout matches.

        • Shan

          I blame WWE. Because I blame WWE for everything.

    • Welchy

      Tea besides the Nattie part

    • PYM #TakeOverSmackdown

      I agree with it all. Even with Nattie, she does nothing for me anymore. I wanted her as champion years ago, but now she’s not as good.

      • Jo9834

        Absolutely, I rooted for Nattie for YEARS. I wanted her to really show out in the ring, and the womens revolution was her calling card to really shine, but since then she’s played it safe and kept it the same all the way. I can’t even remember a new move she’s added to her arsenal in years.

    • TheRealest #ItsBossTime

      That Nattie part is so on point

    • Joseph

      Well Blame Carmella for that you don’t like it. Ellsworth being put with Carmella was her idea.

      • Jo9834

        I didn’t know that she pitched that? if so its a smart move on her part, she knows she wasn’t getting over on her own so Ellsworth keeps her in the spotlight.

        • Joseph

          Yep Ellsworth did an interview and said that Carmella came up with the idea with him in mind and she pitch it to creative and Vince like it.

    • Joseph

      Rather have Carmella wrestle then just be stuck as a valet.

  • decent sd live this week

  • Moan of ‘Licia

    RAW outwrestled. outpromoed, outdid everything about SmackDown. Mickie James is the kryptonite to SD, and the reason why RAW finally is surpassing SmackDown in not just abilities inside the ring. (Didn’t need to) but also character work and stories. Her emotion and promo ability is unmatched.

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  • Corey Anderson

    I DON’T CARE WHAT ANYONE SAYS!!!!!! Natalya deserves to be champ right now even trish stratus said it. Also it’s really frustrating how we had three storylines and now we barley get one which I think has a lot to do with nikki cause they couldn’t put the title on her or fans would lose theirs minds so they had to make side feuds and thats exactly what they should do with Carmella

  • Organization XIII

    I don’t share the same sentiment in Smackdown being “trash” as most people. Lackluster maybe but not trash. Smackdown’s main issue is them throwing everyone woman into a segment just to say they are being used. Why isn’t there a secondary feud being put into the works? Naomi should be feuding with Tamina & Lana. They are off to a good start with Becky & Carmella (hopefully they will continue this) considering Carmella attacked Becky with her briefcase. But something needs to be done to establish different stories & characters as opposed to everyone just being involved in random brawls out of nowhere

  • A?.

    Idk why both divisions can’t shine! When Raw was awful, SD was the best show. Now it’s the other way around.

  • Shan

    Ok, this Ellsworth thing is just uncomfortable. Who honestly green lights these things? Also, I don’t even know what they’re doing with the women’s division on SD anymore.

  • Shan

    I’m confused. Did they move all of SD’s writers from before the shakeup to RAW? Have they all run out of ideas? Wth is happening on SD?

    • Sunny’s Therapist

      i honestly was wondering the same thing

    • Dylan Gutierrez

      I think so. Road Dogg is in charge now and according to him he feels the division is stacked therefore doesn’t wanna bring up any more women. It was said sometime this year so given the small amount, they find it taxing to just give the women something to work with.

      After the Shakeup, it’s like SmackDown is once again becoming the B show and RAW is improving. The rumor of Vince never wanting RAW to fail and become a lesser show is true. A writer I was reading about last night who worked for WWE in the past said the very thing, “Smackdown makes them, RAW takes them. It’s difficult trying to make a show worthwhile when all good talent is sent to RAW when someone gets over” or something along those lines.

      • Shan

        So let me get this straight. It’s taxing to give such a small group of women something to do but they can find stuff for nearly all the men? Really???
        And yeah, SD works hard on story-lines and making stars and then RAW just yanks them up. It pisses me off. If I were creative for SD I’d get tired as well.

        • Dylan Gutierrez

          Yep, they apparently feel the rosters don’t need more women so hence why no callups from NXT aside Asuka is going to happen for a while. It’s a shame a group of paid people cannot write compelling stories for the women and even if they do, they get neutered/rejected by Vince.

          I think a writer claimed HHH was against women taking a lot of screentime before the Women’s Revolution. Quoted as saying “Will it take a lot of time away from the men?” Take it with a grain of salt however but I wouldn’t be past it as how horrible women have been treated the last decade until recently.

          SD stars being moved to RAW just to make sure it remains the flagship show even though SD kicked RAW’s ass for pretty much all of 2016 until Mania.

  • Miguel

    I would have accepted a short match if it was under other circumstances. Is not like women aren’t allowed to have a short match here and then but in this specific case, SmackDown! Live was crowning a new number one contender for the SD!L. Women’s Championship and it makes no sense to not make it a hard fought match. This match needed to go longer, Carmella needed to use Ellsworth to try and win the match, this needed to be a good Becky Lynch match were she was going to perform some sort of move to James and Dis-Arm Carmella. This also sets Carmella as somebody that is too weak, she lost so quick and didn’t even seem to fight the suvmission.

    Carmella and Becky should have a documented feud, if somebody lost their opportunity due to some dirty tactics by Carmella is Becky. This could have been fun and kept The Princess busy in a personal feud while The champion was busy with her contender. This would make people question more; when is Carmella cashing in?

    I have to agree that the problem with SmackDown! Live is the same problem RAW had, they can’t just focus on the Women’s Championship only (even when it needs to be the center of the division), the feud with Charlotte and Natalya escalated a bit more with this little segment and that is nice but there was no need for the rest of the division to be involved. We don’t need to set up a tag team match with a huge background. Charlotte has an obvious partner, Becky and Natalya could just look for Tamina. As much as I love Naomi, she don’t need to be involved. I miss her, but I rather see her wrestling singles matches and climbing the ladder again.

  • Bo$$_Justyn

    I think it would be cool if Carmella became the number one contender for the title and lost the match, then cash in and win. It’s something we’ve never seen before

  • Welchy

    Carmella is trash.
    This storyline with Ellsworth is terrible and a joke.
    Natalya with the title is still a snooze, even tho I don’t believe it’s entirely her fault. The division is just so small at the moment, there is only so much they can do. Not to mention, SD is only 2 hours long and filled with a million and two commercial breaks.
    Nattie feuding against any of the current women just wont work because:
    A. She’s feuded with them before. (Becky, Charlotte, Tamina, Naomi)
    B. The opponent isn’t capable. (Lana, Carmella)
    Or it’s just flat out boring.
    Charlotte needs to be heel or they need to let her face character go back to how it was when she was a tweener teasing a feud with Naomi when she first arrived.
    Oh..&
    Becky is lost in the shuffle, per usual.
    At least she got a win tho, right?

  • Parasite

    Boring show, at least we got Becky winning..

  • MK126

    I think a double turn for Nattie and Charlotte is needed. Turn Charlotte into the cocky queen she is and make Nattie the face trying to defend her family’s honor. There are so many ways they can go about this that will make this feud somewhat enjoyable cause I feel like im watching Paige vs Charlotte again with the personal attacks on Ric Flair

  • RT. They made yall girl a fool for what?

    https://twitter.com/_LeWoman/status/918569386339962880

  • Neutral

    This Carmella/Ellsworth thing is making me really uncomfortable! Seriously, it is just hard and cringy to watch, someone stop it!

    • Nathan

      I love Carmela but I have to agree. It’s been taken a step to far now. Stuff like this wasn’t ok when they did it to women, so I don’t get how it’s acceptable to do it to a man.

  • Nathan

    I’m a little late to the party…. what annoys me isn’t that there isn’t consistency with “good women’s wrestling”. For years it would be either tna or wwe would have good wrestling but you’d never get both companies putting on good wrestling in the same week. And now it’s seems raw and sd can’t get it in the same week. I just don’t get it. Especially when it comes to fans who have creative ideas and storylines for most women, and wwe can barely manage to showcase more than 4 women at once. There really is no excuse for this lazy booking.

  • SaltyMcSalt

    Just about to pick up my 2k18 copy. I’m in Australia so we get it early. Can’t wait!!!

    • NoWayHoeSay

      JEALOUS

  • Cabbyhighs

    So now sdl wants to do these rare sightings with Naomi? like she’s fucking big foot? A split second and you miss her! I ain’t gone cry
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0174a05863ee45c284c32fb5f7d1b8ffa8d12c37a70f7d4f985ec64113c20110.gif

  • NoWayHoeSay

    Used to love make up table brawls, loose powder everywhere

  • MyleneCruz

    I’m officially vying for SD to get an extra 30min or hr. Because they clearly need it.

  • MyleneCruz

    I need to see all the ladies in the ring and have Tamina rip through all of them and start a feud for the title and at some point when she takes down all the women maybe Charlotte or Naomi get the advantage for a moment and Lana grabs someone leg and gives Tamina the advantage again. Then follow up with a handicap match Tamina vs two or three of the women then taking Nattie title and beat her with it after she uses it to take her down when Nattie comes at her with the Nattie by nature.