It’s the take-home show before Survivor Series and despite knowing that we have two big women’s matches on the card, we still don’t know who will be taking part! The rumour mill has been churning this week, but one thing we definitely do know is that the final slot on the RAW is going to be filled! Let’s see who got that slot in this week’s redux!

As announced earlier in the week, the final slot will be decided in a triple threat match between Bayley, Mickie James and Dana Brooke.

Ahead of the match, RAW Team Captain Alicia Fox is at ringside with the other confirmed team members: Sasha Banks, Asuka and Nia Jax.

A fresh combination, this triple threat was definitely an enjoyable and unpredictable match. With all three playing the face roles, this was more of a ‘spotty’ affair with each women trying to win over the crowd. The pre-match video recap highlights Bayley not being given the spot on the team last week, while the commentary team highlight Mickie’s undefeated run at Survivor Series.

All three seem evenly matched throughout, but when we come back from the break it seems that Mickie has started to win over the crowd. Mickie is able to get the first nearfall with a top rope Mickie Thesz Press, but the pin is broken up by Dana. Mickie hits a sweet neckbreaker on Bayley, but both Dana and Mickie take each other out with a double faceplant. Dana rolls to the outside of the ring and Asuka checks up on her, but Dana doesn’t need her help and hits her with a forearm!

Big mistake Dana! Asuka chases Dana across the ring and flatlines her with a brutal spinning kick. Inside the ring, Mickie and Bayley try to roll each other up for a surprise win. Mickie kicks Bayley in the mid-section and sets her up for the Mickie-T, but Bayley is able to slide out and hit the Bayley-to-belly for the victory! Bayley takes the fifth spot and is heading to Survivor Series! The rest of the team celebrate in the middle of the ring and the RAW Women’s Team looks ready for the SmackDown ladies.

Bayley and Sasha Banks celebrate backstage and they are both thrilled to be on the same team at Survivor Series. Although, Sasha does admit that she did think Mickie would win…

The other Survivor Series match sees a clash of Champions, with RAW Women’s Champion Alexa Bliss taking on the SmackDown Women’s Champion. However, with Charlotte challenging Natalya tonight, her opponent is still in the air.

Backstage, Charly Caruso catches up with Alexa and asks her how she’s feeling heading into this match. She complains that it’s unfair that she hasn’t got the time to prepare for this match, but claims that RAW became the A show when she switched brands. She alludes that she may turn up to watch the match on SmackDown, but warns that she will still prove that she’s the Goddess of WWE at Survivor Series.

Thoughts: Now, I’m sure most of us were waiting for the return of a certain Former Divas Champion, so last night’s women’s action on RAW left us a little underwhelmed. What’s probably more underwhelming is Bayley getting the final slot too. I’m sure a lot of us are split between Bayley and Mickie taking that spot, but stepping back, not being on the team would have done way more for Bayley’s character.

We all know that Bayley’s character has suffered over the last couple of months. She is meant to be an underdog, but they booked her too strong too quickly. She’s now beaten two more contenders (including someone who was just in the Championship feud), so this further detracts from her underdog. The build-up from last week would have been perfect for the crowd to sympathise with Bayley for not being on the team – friction with Alicia, disappointing herself… this is what she needed. Instead, she’s now going to be third fiddle behind the other faces on her team and will probably be RAW’s first elimination. Unless she messes up and causes someone else’s elimination, she pretty much a filler on this team.

Conversely, Mickie needed to be on the team. She had just come off the Championship feud and her character was finally connecting with the crowd again. She would have brought her own undefeated streak and experience to the line-up, but she’s also been higher than Bayley in the food chain lately, so she would have actually looked like a threat within the line-up. Technically, I’d imagine Sasha to have been eliminated before Mickie! However, they’ve now relegated Mickie completely and they run the risk of dropping her to the bottom of the list once again. They really missed out on something here, but here’s to hoping that Mickie remains in the spotlight.

All the other talk about Paige would have been interesting, but I think we all know she’d be better off on SmackDown. RAW has too many protected stars and they’d probably do the same with Paige for the first few weeks. She may not be back soon, but I am eagerly waiting for return.

Finally, the Championship dual is an interesting one. Alexa VS Natalya gives a chance for Alexa to probably have one of the best matches of her career. Alexa VS Charlotte gives us a combination that we have never had before and probably the bigger ‘draw’ for name value. This would also switch the dynamic of the tag match, as Team SmackDown would lose Charlotte. If the WWE were smart about this, they would keep the current match-up, but make Natalya look strong, while giving Alexa the chance to have a solid match which would prove her nay-sayers wrong.

Do you think Bayley should have had the final slot? Are you disappointed that Paige didn’t return? Who do you think Alexa’s challenger will be at Survivor Series? You know what to do in the comments below!

  • cute white cat

    WHERE THE FUCK IS PAIGE ?!?!?!?!?!

  • cute white cat

    I just want to say this:

    BAYLEY IS SO BORING, MICKIE DESERVED BETTER, DANA IS IMPROVING & WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU PAIGE ?!?!?!?!?!

  • Of course Bayley was going to be on the team, as she should. You don’t let one of your biggest name out of one of your biggest PPV of the year. She’s actually a factor in this division, wheter people like it or not. Mickie could have made the cut if she had more going on before her feud with Alexa. I actually would have accepted Lana on the smackdown team if that meant Mickie could be on team red. But what is done is done. All in all, I’d say it’s a pretty good team.

  • Darryl lee

    I can see why they booked bayley this Monday. I think this is their way of making bayley earn her spot like an underdog. If she’s the first one out then I’ve just about lost all hope in wwe in terms of booking the women.
    If they do the same with asuka like they ruined poor bayley………

  • When is WWE gonna stop teasing and turn Sasha or Bayley?

  • Haraya

    As much as I think Bayley’s great wrestler, She stuckin the Boredom which still growing and ending very soon, her character is too plain, her promo is awful & that Bayley to Belly…

  • I HATED THIS.

    Why were Sasha and Alicia acting like best friends when they tried to kill each other a couple of
    weeks ago?

    Why was Nia the only one who acted like she doesn’t like the other women?

    Why was Asuka being treated like just another woman?

    Why didn’t Mickie burn that ring gear?

    Why didn’t they go with Fox vs.Bayley storyline for after Survivor Series?

    Why didn’t Paige return?

    That photo made me so excited for that Raw and as usual, I am disappointed. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2d5e73d47aa7aa20959e9acf6ae993a4f2f0cc8486310adae5cbe83b6e34b8b7.jpg

    • Diva_Fan

      Is this a legit photo released by WWE ? If so what a mess she didn’t return after this !

      • Raekon

        That’s Bayleys hair on the left and Nias on the right. They also said the Paige will join SD not Raw so I really don’t understand why so many People are going by this.

        • MK126

          Cause Paige was backstage for RAW. I bet if shes backstage for SDL numerous reports are gonna say shes going to SDL

      • Nope, I found it on Twitter

      • Joseph

        Fan made

    • Kvngbalor

      Supposedly Paige got in trouble for posting a pic with Alicia on IG calling her captain spoiling the surprise and she posted a video backstage with Renee officials supposedly wanted her to stay under the radar and it ruined the surprise return even tho the story been leaked and we saw her all over Atlanta

    • jxs_

      A million unanswered questions ?

  • conan_kun

    If they want Bayley to be in the team at the beginning, they should have simply announced she and Sasha are picked in the team last week after tag match then do Raw women and SD women face-to-face.

    By the way, this year women’s Team Raw is still the same members as last year other than Charlotte changes to Asuka
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOmA098X0AAecAd.jpg
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOmA13zX0AskOSM.jpg

    • Mauricio Cordova

      burn Nia, she should had stayed out for more weeks! Mickie should be in the match!

  • conan_kun

    They may have let Mickie win so it can lead to Bayley get frustrated for not being chosen to be on Team Raw. I also got annoyed when they keep disrespected Mickie by allowing Alexa insulted her age. Imagine if when Kane came back, they just made fun of how he looked fat and how old he was.

    They need to treat her like a legend that she is, this way will actually mean something when someone beats her. See then they beat a legend, but if the commentary is all about how she’s old and fat, then they just beat an out of shape old person.

  • Queen of Spark

    Asuka: Why was she so comfortable standing next to Nia? Vince, are you telling me you e forgotten their feud at NXT? Unbelievable, dude, became a dumb boss once again. You too, creative. And now she’ll be feuding with Dana so soon. I know their chemistry was great before, but this was too soon.

  • Queen of Spark

    Alicia Fox: Same thing about standing next to Sasha. Yes, you need her for the SS tag match, but why’re you two showing no hard feelings? There was no backstage segments of you two calling a truce after y’all physical feud prior to TLC. And why didn’t you interfere in the match to make Bayley lose to either woman?! Come on, you were just crazy one week, then just a sane model the next. I forgot you were even captain!

  • Queen of Spark

    Bayley: What is the big deal with her losing? So an underdog is supposed to be an almost indestructible wrestler and to keep winning constantly? It would be different if she was champion, but come on! She could’ve been turning heel because of her jealousy of Sasha getting the spotlight. The mess just keeps coming.

  • Queen of Spark

    Alexa Bliss: Amazing promo as always, but it’s her ring skills I’m concerned about coming this Sunday. Whoever wins on SD tonight, we know Alexa will have the best match in the main roster, maybe better than her vs Sasha. Maybe.

    • Maddox

      If it’s Natalya, then it depends if Bliss fights as a face or heel cuz it could be a match full of holds

      • Queen of Spark

        Well then Charlotte it is.

  • Queen of Spark

    Dana Brooke: Oh, I can’t believe this is happening. She’s is good ar being a heel, but this was to soon, especially with who she’ll be feuding with. Looks like being pushed to main roster was too soon as well.

    • Dylan Gutierrez

      Her and Emma together would have worked but they never grouped them together despite teasing it at one point and now with Emma gone, it’ll be even harder for Dana to make something of her on the main roster.

  • Queen of Spark

    Nia Jax: So you’re just….gonna stand there? Do nothing? You’re supposed to be a force to be reckoned with! Already know she’s gonna bump into women then taps out like last year. Not surprising, you left all for nothing, unless it was family issues.

  • Queen of Spark

    Mickie James: She lost the championship clean twice by a tiny heel, and got P-I-N-N-E-D last night. They’re definitely thinking she doesn’t have the factor to be a champion, of a woman important. Have they seriously forgotten about what all she’s accomplished in the Diva era? Her age is just a number, she can still go amazingly, and creative just don’t care. Well I won’t care when those writers get their asses FIRED!

  • Queen of Spark

    Sasha Banks: I don’t care about her, anymore. I will only care when there’s an actual feud going on with her. Something interesting better come for her this Sunday.

  • I totally thought that Charlotte would pick up the win tonight on SD, but now I remember that Team Raw is supposed to retaliate at tonight’s show…hmm I wonder how this will affect the outcome.

  • Hoooshi

    Nothing about this makes sense. If they were going with Bayley why not include her last week? Her character would have benefitted a lot more if she had sat this one out.

    This has to be one of the worst SS cards in recent years. And then WWE wonders why they can’t sell out their events.

    • Jonny

      Apparently it was supposed to be Paige taking the 5th spot but “officials were unhappy that she posted a picture on Instagram with Alicia Fox”, so they went with Bayley as punishment.

  • iOwnThatSonOfABitch

    Can we take out Nia and replace with Mickie? So not looking forward to good back and forth action then Nia getting tagged in for slow mo speed.

  • Gato_wiska

    Where is Paige?

    • perceval

      Not having her return overshadowed by a match that will be the Asuka Show. Plus, there’s the possibility of Ronda and her little friends attacking at Survivor Series (This is one of the rare opportunities to have all four Horsewomen at the same place at the same time), which would also overshadow Paige.

  • TorrieTrishStacyLita

    Throw it away

  • MK126

    That team would have looked better with Mickie instead of Bayley. It would have done much for both Mickie and Bayley as it creates sympathy for Bayley that she’s not on the team given that she won for team RAW last year and reinforces that Mickie can still hang with the best of them regardless of what Bliss thinks. If there’s still time for Paige to secretly attack someone backstage before the match I’d be all for it. TBH if they wanna build Bayley’s as a true underdog she should be eliminated really early. I wonder if/how Team RAW is gonna affect the title match tonight between Charlotte and Nattie

    • Bayley is a former nxt and raw women’s champion and she ended Charlotte’s PPV streak. She will never be seen as a true underdog again. I don’t think bayley being a underdog is the story WWE is trying to tell with bayley. I think bayley is simply a wrestler that is going through a hard time in her career and she is simply trying to get back to the top.

      • MK126

        “Bayley is a former nxt (irrelevant) and raw women’s champion and she ended Charlotte’s PPV streak (also irrelevant because it was only WWE that made that such a big deal and then nothing else came of it.)” Bayley is supposed to be booked like a total underdog where she’s supposed to gain sympathy from the fans because shes likeable. She’s not supposed to get big wins and if she does shes supposed to overcome some adversity before hand. She got buried completely in her feud with Bliss where winning would have made her rise above her bully. She’s gotten wins of Nia who’s supposed to be this dominant monster but cant win a kendo stick match against Alexa Bliss. Her whole BFF story shes got going on with Sasha has been dragged on for too long when Sasha should have turned heel on her a long ass time ago but all WWE continues to do is plant seeds for a feud that isn’t going to happen

  • Sasha, Nia, and Asuka were all hand picked by Foxy for the team. Bayley earned her way on the team despite foxy not wanting her there. I don’t understand why people here are having such a hard time grasping basic storytelling. I would like mickie on team raw but not at the expense of Bayley. Mickie should have had Nia Jax spot tbh.

    • Diva_Fan

      Why Nia ? she’s meant to be the powerhouse and dominate so it would look silly if she weren’t on the team whether you like her or not . Bayley could have done without being on the team and it wouldn’t have really had that much effect on her character if anything it could have done her some good .

      • Wrestling.fan.from.France

        “if anything it could have done her some good” But like what?

        • perceval

          Yeah, it’s not like being buried most of the year has done her any good. How would more burial help?

        • Diva_Fan

          It terms of character and not being in the match it would have been interesting to see that play out with Bayley and frustration with a possible heel turn ? But oh well wasn’t meant to be .

      • I just don’t think Nia has much to offer in the match. Given her size they will probably book the match around her like they did last year which hurt the match. Also, she will probably tap out to Becky again this year which will hurt her powerhouse status even more. I just think mickie in Nia spot would have made for a more interesting and competitive match.

        • Diva_Fan

          Nia works well in multi women matches/big PPV matches that’s when she shines the most !

        • C Mack

          Right. Nia’s “all this size for nothing” self tapped out last year and Mickie’s undefeated at SS. Logic would have put Mickie on the team

    • Wrestling.fan.from.France

      Not Nia Jax who logically and due il her build should be there because that’s common sense as a team to want a girl like Nia. With that being said, the hate is ridiculous I agree. The worst of it is them crying about Bayley on there yet nobody seems to question Alicia’s inclusion. Like if you listen some people on here, you would only have Sasha, Dana, Mickie, Alicia and Nia just for the sake of doing it.
      You just can’t realistically do that.

      • I understand why they would want Nia there but the chances of her not being eliminated are rather slim. I think anyone women other than Charlotte beating Nia would hurt her status even more. Ultimately, when Nia gets eliminated it will hurt her character.

        • Wrestling.fan.from.France

          The real thing is, they hurt Nia the moment they thought it would be good to have both her and Asuka on the main roster knowing that Nia has yet to have her much needed time as a dominant champion to solidify her character.

    • A?.

      “basic storytelling” lmfao, bitch i don’t care if bayley “earned her way on the team”, it should’ve been mickie and that’s that. and YES at the expense of bayley, because it could have lead to bayley vs alicia, or bayley getting more frustated which could’ve made her turn heel in the future, but i guess you prefer BASIC STORYTELLING.

      • Wrestling.fan.from.France

        “YES at the expense of bayley, because it could have lead to bayley vs alicia” How so?

        • MK126

          Cause Alicia originally only picked Sasha for her team while Bayley had to earn her way on. Sasha was the only one who looked “happy” when Bayley won the match. If Alicia wanted she could have told Bayley last week that she was gonna be on team RAW when she told Sasha. Creative could have made some storyline as to why Alicia picked Sasha over Bayley which could have added to her “underdog” character. Much like how her character was on NXT when she feuded with Emma and Charlotte

          • Wrestling.fan.from.France

            “Much like how her character was on NXT when she feuded with Emma and Charlotte”
            The real issue here is that we can’t go back to that point because so many things happened in between. She beat Sasha twice in some of the greatest women’s matches ever, had historic reign on NXT, came in on Raw as a big deal and now, we are just going to act like she’s below Alicia Fox?

            Plus, let’s be real, Bayley actually working her way to the match makes her that much more heroic. One thing that could have improved the entire thing would have been them not announcing the triple threat in advance but announcing it tonight with a backstage segment with Alicia and Bayley in order for Bayley to prove her wrong and shows that she deserves to be on there.

          • MK126

            “The real issue here is that we can’t go back to that point because so many things happened in between. She beat Sasha twice in some of the greatest women’s matches ever, had historic reign on NXT, came in on Raw as a big deal and now, we are just going to act like she’s below Alicia Fox?” The problem was after her great NXT booking she was booked on RAW as everything she started at NXT with. Instead of being booked as she was after she won the NXT title and her feud with Asuka, they booked her like a child. She had 2 historic matches with Sasha but couldn’t “get extreme” enough with Alexa in the kendo stick match? She wrestled and won the 30 minute ironman match but cant swing a kendo stick to someone who’s bullying you? I’m not saying she has to act like shes below Alicia but in terms of what would have made a decent storyline would have been for her to lose. She can never seem to win when it counts and of course the fans wanted to see her win. Having her lose would have built sympathy from the crowd OR would have given creative the opportunity to show an angry side which would have given her stale character some depth. Almost like how Kelly Kelly went berserk on Beth that one time and kept slamming her head into the announce desk… fans went crazy for that because it added something to K2 that she desperately needed. Bayley needs that aggression she had when she faced Asuka… not being Sasha’s besite or “Just Bayley”

          • Wrestling.fan.from.France

            “Instead of being booked as she was after she won the NXT title and her feud with Asuka, they booked her like a child”
            I totally agree. And it was bad enough but they felt the need to have Alexa bury her entirely which made it even worse.

            I also agree that she needs that extra aggression. I don’t think she should loose that “Just Bayley” aspect of her because that’s what she is and shouldn’t loose that. However, she needs to be able to show more agression, show that she will fight hard if she has to. And she needs a story too because at the end of the day, loosing can only go so far for her and it won’t help her if there is no story for people to get invest. She can loose in a big feud where she shows she’s not afraid but there needs a story.

        • A?.

          alicia not wanting her on the team because she considers her weak, and bayley can try to prove her wrong. it ain’t that hard

    • Joseph

      Glad someone pointed that out.

  • ???

    I didn’t sleep at all last night just in hope of returning Paige , the reports turned to be false .. I don’t see them dragging her ass this time maybe after SS she’ll return but we don’t know < so pissed off .

    The result of Bayley's winning is just getting old and stupid , she became boring and we desperately need fresh and new talents in the scene like seriously WWE GET OVER YOURSELF .. I don't understand what the purpose behind the hype of last two members of SS ?

    Some are great wrestlers but they lack the promo skills and vice versa but just because you're so good on one thing isn't enough WWE top star need to be complete package.

    Bayley : Great wrestler + Horrible mic skills = will become boring and stale .

    Alexa Bliss = Great mic skills + boring basic ass ring skills = boring matches .

    Nia Jax = Average mic skills + Average ring skills = nothing special AT ALL

    Mickie James and Paige = Ring skills + mic skills = COMPLETE PACKAGE yet boring people like Bayley and Nia got a spot over them *yawn *

    Oh , not at the horrible booking too ..

    • Maybe they’ll recycle last year’s idea where someone is injured right before & unable to compete, sending Paige into the mix

      • ???

        I don’t see them doing the exact same thing last year , it’s sounds lazy I think .

        Maybe at SS they let Dana attack Asuka from behind letting her unable to compete , Paige will replace her .

        They seem like they teased Dana and Asuka’s rivalry.

        • That’s what I just said lol

          • ???

            LMAO if Dana attacked Asuka then this is the only way I will accept .

            The situation between you and me remind of that funny segment between Tamina and Charlotte when Tamina imitated Charlotte xDDDDD

            https://youtu.be/cLYK6O0ZXHY

    • Randall

      Paige mic skills??? Uh no lol

      • ???

        She’s one of the best talkers in the locker room , not as good as Mickie/Bliss/Trish or even Sasha but still good .

  • The Wicked Bitch

    The PPV build-up is so lame this year. Last year it was much more exciting.
    Some shit better go down tomorrow, afterall Alexa did say that she might visit the blue brand tomorrow. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/755fff7cba3a6eb4d72cf4b1667e9a607a5013b8ac47c88791a699f39f9fc8cb.jpg

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    • Dr. Tomee ??Team ?

      Alexa should help her sister Carmella cash in and win in the main event

      • The Wicked Bitch

        Alexa don’t know her.

    • Not at that shitty render of HoHo.
      https://media.giphy.com/media/NIYbDsR0aDVeg/giphy.gif

    • willh

      I AM SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAMING AT THIS PIC!

    • Gerg

      XD my reaction when Bayley pinned Mickie instead of the other way around

    • jxs_

      I’m crying ?

    • Welchy

      Lmfao

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  • TorrieTrishStacyLita

    Darn that damn Bayley to Belly nearly broke Mickie in half ?

  • Mick

    I feel like Bayley’s “underdog” status is far gone. She’s just a stupid looking girl with talent. Dana Brooke, Alicia Fox & Mickie James can be considered underdogs.

    RAW has too many protected women. Nia Jax, Sasha Banks, Alexa Bliss, Asuka & Bayley. Sasha Banks rarely loose a match. Nia Jax last lost was by DQ. Asuka… we don’t have to explain. Bayley only looses in multi women’s matches. Alexa is being used well, not being so often in action, so her not loosing doesn’t really hurt.

    The point is, RAW needs to shake things up and if Sasha is not next in line, she can loose one or two matches; you know? The same applies to the rest but Asuka & Nia.

    • MK126

      Sadly every time Sasha loses a match people bitch and complain

      • Mick

        That is true but that isn’t the reason WWE management doesn’t make her loose. They don’t because she sells too much merch. They don’t want to loose that $. The same goes to Bayley & Alexa.

        • MK126

          I hate how selling merch is a serious rational in who wins and who loses and who’s champ and who isn’t. Back when the women didn’t have a lot of merch everyone was picking up wins and loses. Everyone is the golden era had wins and loses over each other. It made everyone equal but you still had your top tier, middle tier and lower tier women on the roster. Now its “she sells merch and shes popular therefore she should never lose and hold the title til she dies” and its annoying because it limits the opportunities for the division as a whole instead of certain individuals benefitting

          • Mick

            I disagree with you. The fact that Trish Stratus was one of the main players with her merch was the reason she got the championship 7 times and one of those tittle runs lasted more than a year. The difference is that back then, there were two types of women.
            1. The wrestlers
            2. The “pretty faces”
            This made competition less tight. Torrie Wilson wasn’t competing with Trish Stratus, or Lita. Her competition was Stacy Keibler in the other brand. In her own brand, because she was the most popular girl, she was protected. Wilson won almost every contest she was in. Trish Stratus and Lita were protected on RAW, rarely loosing unless they were wrestling each other. Stacy Keibler wasn’t in the ring much but hardly missed a show. Being popular and being able to sell merch has always been a KEY FACTOR.

          • MK126

            The thing with Trish was she was a main player when she immediately signed. She didn’t have any corporate merch but was popular based on her own accord and work during her fitness modeling. One of those 7 championships lasted a year because she had no one to defend it against. She was a face and the only heels at the time were Victoria, Torrie and Candice but she was stuck in that “Save Ashley” storyline which led to Mickie James and their title matches. Trish earned her reigns “7” reigns. I put 7 in quotes because her last one was a send off gift and she wouldn’t have won the title from Lita at NYR if Lita didn’t screw up her knee during the match. Trish was definitely picking up loses when she was wrestling Jazz, Victoria, Molly and Gail. She was always winning during the end of her career because everyone else didn’t have the same skills, minus Mickie, Lita and Victoria (but she became a joke by then). The women back then weren’t as protected as they are now. Even if we look at the “diva’s division” AJ Lee only really won during title defenses and the back and forth between Paige but was also losing to Paige and the Bellas.

          • Mick

            Trish Stratus did had several women she could wrestle for the women’s championship but she was the center of the division, Trish would only loose the championship or one match to make the other girl a threat for the moment. There aren’t many Trish vs. Jazz one on one matches, the same with Victoria (until she became the jobber). There aren’t much Trish versus Lita matches when they peaked in their careers as well.
            When Trish was a face champion, the first few reigns she was the “underdog” and then when she turned heel, she wasn’t in action that much unless it was a championship match. During her last face run, she barely lost a match. You could see the rest of the girls trading win/loses but not Trish or Lita. The same with Torrie on SD!.
            AJ Lee win/loss record was less protected but she only traded win/loses with Kaitlyn and then Nikki Bella. The rest of the time she wasn’t in the match or Tamina was taking her loses.
            The whole point is that I get the reason WWE protects Sasha Banks & Alexa Bliss but having a loss here and then won’t hurt them at all.

          • tstumo

            Just as someone above said Trish lost lots of times a giant molly,Jazz,Victoria and even Gail Kim. And even more when she just started. Girl couldn’t win a match to save her life. And then way later in her career near the end, she would win constantly but who was around then? She was the center because she knew how to gel with every single girl she worked with. She was not the Alexa Bliss of that era because that’s solely exclusive to Alexa. Lita messed up her leg which forced Trish to have the belt yet again. Molly holly wasn’t traditionally popular but she had reigns under he belt. Back then you didn’t need to seek merch to be in title matches or have a title run.

          • Mick

            You guys are taking it way too literally. The only reason Trish lost the belt so many times was to tell a story or sell anyone as a threat but she was the center of the women’s division even when another girl was the champion for a month or two. Back then storylines and rivalry lasted more than a month for a PPV match.

            Lita could have won more belts but injuries held her back. The whole point is that WWE protected Trish & Lita. The rest was supporting cast. None of the other girls got huge stories or work with men of the same caliber these two did.

          • C Mack

            I agree with the way you worded this. The stuff about merch threw me off

          • Mick

            I get it but think about it. Nikki & Brie found tons of success and sold merch, got that reality tv deal, etc. Those things count. If people buy your stuff, if people request merch from a superstar, it means this person is popular and they want to see them. They’ll pay tickets, and subscriptions to the network for them. Why would you give the belt to somebody else? After all WWE is a company, they want money.
            Billie & Peyton are making merch because they are becoming popular. That’s the point.

          • C Mack

            Billie and Peyton made Iconic a thing. They’d been making those shirts and wearing them forever. When they first started, the announcers glossed over it, now they’re referred to as the Iconic Duo. So smart of them.

          • Mick

            Yup!

          • C Mack

            Naomi’s another one who started making waves and got merch as a result

          • Mick

            Exactly and because she’s selling merch, expect her to get pushed.

          • DayOneISH!

            I agree that Trish was always the center of the divison and the others was just the supporting cast.I remember back at WM 20 and Victoria was the champ and the belt wasn’t even gonna be defended until Molly said she was willing to shave her head just for the belt to be at mania.

            Poor Molly I honestly don’t remember her ever even winning a match during her last year in the WWE she was basically just Trish’s sidekick taking the L in all the matches.

          • Mick

            One thing is clear, Trish Stratus & Lita barely missed any shows unless they were injured. While Trish was the center piece of the Women’s division, Lita was busy with storylines with mid to top guys until she retired.

          • MK126

            Torrie was picking up loses when she was on SDL. Even when Michelle was on SD and feuded with Victoria/Kenny when she was with Chuck she’d lose every so often. All the “It” girls always picked up loses is the point I’m also making but to rationalize it by saying “they have merch and are popular therefore shouldn’t lose” is ridiculous to me

          • Mick

            That was when Torrie was leaving the company. You are taking this way too literally. Torrie Wilson was at her prime when WWE wasn’t PG. She passed the torch as the it girl of SD as soon as Melina came in.

            Her late SD run, she was the underdog “getting better” in the ring but she wasn’t as popular as in the past by then. Trish, Stacy, Molly, Nidia, Jackie Gayda, Dawn Marie, Lita & others left by then…

          • C Mack

            I mean Trish and Lita were the only two I remember really having merch that was pushed back then so it’s kinda wrong to say that factored into their push. Not really fair to factor that in when Molly, Gail, Victoria, Jazz, etc… didn’t have any merch to compete.

          • MK126

            Trish and the Lita were the only two that had individual merch I believe but Molly, Gail, Victoria were apart of the Diva DVDs

          • Mick

            Those bikinis DVDs? That Torrie, Stacy & Trish sold… nobody wanted them for Molly or Victoria… even tho they looked great.

          • MK126

            Yeah those Bikini and “Divas Take (insert random location here)” and that was what I was making the point of lol

          • OJ Von Erich

            Viva Las Divas!

          • MK126

            Divas do NYC

          • Mick

            Trish & Lita were the only two of that generation to have more than 4 belts. You see? The rest didn’t have merch, didn’t have many championships neither.

          • C Mack

            They didn’t have merch because they were support. Gotcha. That’s why this era is dope because at least every woman has individual merch

          • Mick

            Not all of them have and some of them just have one item as much.

          • C Mack

            True who doesn’t have any? Prolly Lana, Tamina, and Dana

          • Mick

            Yup! Lana is popular tho…
            Now is the rest winning championships or making history? Nope. I hope they have some Mickie merch. She’s getting her fans back little by little.

          • C Mack

            She is! That’s why I wanted her on the team for SS! Momentum was in her favor despite her losing to Lexi

      • A?.

        right? she loses one match and people start calling her jobber?? like wtf lol

        • MK126

          That’s another thing that these fans keep getting wrong. Curt Hawkins is a jobber. Aksana was a jobber. Jillian was a jobber. Sasha losing to Alicia Fox does not make her a jobber. Nothing about Sasha’s career screams or even looks jobber-esque. Everyone just loves throwing that phrase around when their faves lose a few matches

          • Gerg

            This is true but a counter point could be some fans dont want sasha to end up like Melina’s last months. Melina was a top girl that became the fall girl when Eve/Kelly were the focus. With Sasha’s short reigns, I’m starting to lose faith that she’ll ever get a reign like Alexa or Charlotte. She might end up putting over future NXT talent like Baszler similar to Nia

    • A?.

      this tea! all those girls you mentioned just lose to each other every now and then, but the rest (dana, alicia and mickie) are literally just used as enhancement talent, which is sad.

  • 3???????

    I think Dana will take out asuka before the match. leaving A “mystery partner “ , & Paige will join

  • The Wicked Bitch

    Tbh I don’t even like Bayley that much but the hate she’s got since coming up is tew much ?

  • Michael Max

    I just wish they could’ve handled this differently, everyone being buddy/buddy and Alicia and Sasha/Bayley all having arms around one each other just makes all the seeds they planted for their feud pointless. It would’ve been nice for Alicia to look unexcited after Bayley won.

  • – Sooooooooo… Is Dana randomly heel now that Emma’s gone??

    – I know Mickie recently lost to the Women’s Special Slap, but she really didn’t need to eat the pin.

    – Bayley can wrestle, but beyond that she’s a whole mess and a half.

    – The promo was cute, but I’m still waiting on Harley to have a match that’s better than 2-Stars.

    – Whomever booked Survivor Series needs their whole ass BEAT.

    – If Team RAW wins, Harley better lose her match.

    • Kelly/Asuka???RainbowGoddess!

      Tbh even the men’s matches are a mess. We don’t need Kurt Angle, Triple H, Shane and John Cena in the elimination tag match, they had their time, push current talent who need exposure

  • Randall

    I read online that they want Charlotte to win the belt at starcade since that’s also in NC and her father will be in attendance.

    • Wrestling.fan.from.France

      Meh…

      • Randall

        Then again she could win it tonight seeing that they are in her hometown!

        • Wrestling.fan.from.France

          I hope so tbh!

  • HOLLA

    This was an honest mess. Not sure where we’re going from here! Mickie should’ve been on the team, and Imo, should have been team captain. The only thing I liked was Dana Brooke and Asukas encounter. It livened the match up and set Asuka apart.

  • Wrestling.fan.from.France

    Happy for Bayley but I was extremely confused by the sisterhood shown by the women of Team Raw here.
    A week ago, Bayley was left out by Alicia yet in the end, Alicia is happy as if her best friend got in the team and Bayley hugs her for some reasons…

    Even more confusing, Asuka and Nia Jax being there. That’s even worse considering their characters. I don’t ever want to see that again with them. Ever. Especially Asuka.
    Plus, it’s nice that they want to set up some kind of angle with Dana and Asuka, but why would Asuka even care about Dana’s well-being?

    Oh, Alexa appeared to promote her match. I almost missed her. She hinted she would be there on SD. Could be “nice”…

  • Dylan Gutierrez

    This is Alexa Bliss going through RAW Women’s Division.

    • Kelly/Asuka???RainbowGoddess!

      Tbh and Naomi is her kryptonite. She’s never really defeated her where it mattered. But WWE is trying to make forget that by saying Nattie ran Alexa off SD Live but in reality it was Naomi. Naomi eliminated Alexa in the 6 pack challenge match, Naomi beat Bliss at both No Mercy and Elimination Chamber for the title and beat her again at WM 33 and in Alexa’s rematch on SD. I don’t get if Alexa can’t beat Naomi, how can she go through the RAW’s women roster so easily and kick out of finishers. Blame Vince for this tbh

      • Gerg

        Lucky Alexa isn’t in the elimination tag match. match. Glow Queen would kryptonite punch Alexa’s ass XD.

        http://i.imgur.com/UPHDqGq.gif

      • Dylan Gutierrez

        Very true.

        I just find it funny how she’s beaten pretty much everyone and this video was like a good example of her booking.

        • Kelly/Asuka???RainbowGoddess!

          I noticed Alexa’s booking stop making sense when she kicked out of Bayley’s diving elbow. Bayley used that elbow to beat Charlotte at WM but Bayley couldn’t pin Alexa with it? That’s when I knew it was gonna go down hill from there

          • Dylan Gutierrez

            Hell, you could have Undertaker do his tombstone, Stone Cold do his Stunner and Ember do her Eclipse and she wouldn’t go down. LMAO!

  • I’m so fucking tired of Raw. Even when they’re using all women it’s still STALE.

    – I like Alexa but I’m TIRED of her in title scene. She’s treading water, time to move on. The sooner the better.

    – Mickie, who they mention is undefated at SS (4-0, btw), not only has to fight for her spot but loses to a BTB as well. Like I said, she was getting her best reactions since her return and they ruined it just like that.

    – Why are they doing Asuka vs Dana now? Instead of giving Asuka those jobber matches, she could’ve started the feud with Dana earlier and these two could’ve had a singles match at SS, while Mickie could’ve replaced Asuka.

    – I’m still surprised Alicia won the captain spot, but judging by the members it looks like she’ll be the first one out. So much for that.

  • Also, no one’s hating Bayley, she’s just stale, boring and unconvincing. Becky is literally everything she’s supposed to be.

    • Kelly/Asuka???RainbowGoddess!

      I don’t think she’s boring but her booking is slowly turning into Nia’s, Bayley is getting wins where they don’t matter in the long run but those same wins can go further for other talent like Mickie/Dana and soon again Alicia. If Bayley missed SS, she would not lose any steam what’s so ever, but Mickie and Dana it hurts them because they don’t get much opportunities or tv time.

  • Zeek Jones

    with the way the crowd was….. last night was the perfect timing and opportunity for paige to return!!

    • Bad and Bossy

      I thought that too

      • Zeek Jones

        yeah man wwe and creative don’t know how to capitalize on the moment

  • Maddox

    How did Bayley go from being so loved by everyone to being this hated here? Normally when people are booked badly, it actually endevours them to people but wore Bayley, it’s the opposite.

    • Kelly/Asuka???RainbowGoddess!

      I think she turning into Nia a bit, she gets wins where they don’t matter in the long run but those same wins can go further for other talent like Mickie/Dana. I love Bayley but I would have preferred Mickie on team RAW

  • vdcvt

    The RAW team is almost the same as last year save for Asuka. Really thought Mickie should have won the match or at least not eaten the pin.
    I thought it would have been better storywise to have Bayley lose. Cause you get more sympathetic, like when Sasha won a spot. Plus coulda set up Bayleys future feuds but now its like a whole reset.

  • Hangga

    If charlotte wins tonight and face alexa at SS then alexa beats her she will be the first woman ever to beat all fourhorsewomen

    • I didn’t realize this! Oh gosh I hope not. I love Alexa but there’s absolutely NO excuse for her to beat Charlotte. I’d actually be pissed if this happened ?

    • Winter Fresh

      That and possibly the first woman to beat the 4HW with a DDT.

    • Paige already did it, but Alexa would be the first to do it on the main roster.

    • Dylan Gutierrez

      I would hope Charlotte’s boot would end Alexa once and for all.

  • #ROSEARMY

    The psychology for the brand warfare match has been so singlemindedly (and awfully) biased that the mere notion of a win for SD feels unfathomable. Then, there’s the ice-cold cross-brand title match. Survivor Series has superfluous narrative possibilities but it remains to be seen whether WWE actually wants to explore them.

  • NoWayHoeSay

    Paige shouldn’t of been instagramming pics of her backstage she ruined it for herself. She was removed from the team because of that which in then makes other things change which then will fuck up her return so bye.

    • NoWayHoeSay

      I’m drunk if that doesn’t make sense

      • #FlairfortheGold

        Who gets drink on a Tuesday lol

        • Michael Max

          People that be having a hard day, I’mma drink tonight and it’s Wednesday lol

          • #FlairfortheGold

            Lol I wish if I dint have so many papers due!

    • MK126

      It was actually Alicia that posted it on IG but then again if they didn’t want it to be ruined they should have done a better job at keeping her a secret. The surprise was ruined even before RAW started

  • NoWayHoeSay

    Hmm unless Nattie wins tonight, Alexa beats Nattie, Paige attacks Asuka so she joins the team so smackdown then beat raw team.

  • GEO

    The booking of the RAW women is so weird. Mickie James, a legend, is more of an underdog than Bayley at this point. Nia and Asuka are “unstoppable forces,” but Alexa is still the champion winning with that basic DDT. Sasha’s title reigns been a mess. They’re getting somewhere with Alicia, but she keeps losing. And Dana’s just there. Feel free to agree or disagree

    • #FlairfortheGold

      I disagree. That jacket Sasha wore at SummerSlam 2017 was ugly and you could tell she was annoyed at having to grab it during her entrance lol

  • Kyle

    I don’t think Paige’s best feuds would be on Smackdown! — though I get that’s where she will likely end up. Really wanted to see an extension to the Sasha and Paige feud. It could have bee something good, and I liked the onscreen tension between them.

  • Kvngbalor

    I hate Asuka being thrown into a multi women situation RAW is sucking all the momentum the aura the hype from her she’s just another female on RAW …

    • Kelly/Asuka???RainbowGoddess!

      I think she came at an awkward time tbh she made her MR debut at TLC and then all storylines went to focus on SS. Not room at the moment to develop her. We gotta wait till after SS for her first real feud

  • Kvngbalor

    Paige needs to be on RAW a feud with Sasha, Bayley, Asuka, Nia, Alexa so fresh and all scream money on SD who will she face Charlotte their matches were always meh we’ve saw her vs Natalya & Naomi wayyyy too much and her vs Carmella is a no for me she needs to be on RAW as a tweener

  • Kvngbalor

    I was hoping Alexa did a promo in ring talking about how she’s beat every women on raw that she guess this sunday her reign of dominance will be taken over smackdown fans give her heat she’s like seriously who is left for me to beat on raw I’ve beat them all whose lefr renee or cathy what about jojo there’s literally no one on raw for me to face and Paige music drops and out she comes tears into Alexa grabs the mic and belt and screams this is my house

  • Bad and Bossy
  • jxs_

    My girl Dana been workin’ in the ring ??