Raw Redux (October 12th, 2009) – Three Divas and a Title

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So I woke up this morninMg and wondered, “Did last night really happen?” A brief moment later, after rubbing the sleep out of my eyes, I realised no, I wasn’t in some parallel universe or WWE’s beloved Bizzaro World. Last night did happen. Jillian the Jobber really did win a major championship. Melina really did return to Raw. Mickie James really did get traded to SmackDown. On top of all that, Raw ‘guest correspondent’, Maria Menounos got in the ring and wrestled — and looked better than the real Maria!

Watch the craziness unfold, all over again:

Divas Championship Matches
So apparently title opportunities are no longer earned as Jillian, who has a larger loss record than Paris Hilton has sexual conquests, is handed a title shot. For the record, I absolutely hate title shots that are just handed out. But after Kelly, Mickie, Beth, Gail & even Alicia Fox were given Divas Title shots on Raw this year, it only seems right that Jillian gets one too, right?

Honestly, though as short as it was, I enjoyed the work between Jillian and Mickie. Jillian proves here just what a great worker she is, able to have a nice, kind of fast paced exchange with Mickie. We start with a lockup which goes into a headlock, Mickie throws Jillian against the ropes and goes for a hip toss but Jillian nicely counters into a monkey flip. Mickie sells it oddly, which is covered up as a ‘counter’, getting on her feet & charges at Jillian with a Thesz press. Mickie with a dropkick & pin attempt. She then sets up the tornado DDT but Jillian counters and goes for her facebuster, but Mickie manages to block it and goes for a flip into a pin. Mickie kicks Jillian and throws her into the corner, Mickie launches at Jillian, she ducks and Mickie ends up climbing the ropes. Jillian hits a powerbomb, goes for a pin using the ropes for a leg-up and gets the win. Jillian is the new Divas Champion!

Incredibly short, but I enjoyed the little work that we did see and would’ve liked it to be a little longer. These two work well together and are able to go from one move to another seamlessly without the awkward moments that usually linger in Mickie matches. Good effort, I’d say. Rushed finish which is explained by what’s to come…

So Jillian celebrates her title win with a rendition of my favourite Lady Gaga song, ‘Paparazzi’ and messes up the lyrics. [Yes, I paid attention!] Nancy O’Dell, who sounds kind of annoying if you ask me, interrupts and announces that Jillian will defend the title right now against Raw’s newest acquisition, Melina!

This here, was PRICELESS. Jillian realises what we all realise: her title reign is about to be cut incredibly short. Her acting here was pure genius, the facial expressions, the amazing way she clinged onto the belt as the match was about to start. “It’s mine! Please, it’s mine…” The comedic acting was perfection! And the way her head kinda sank when Justin Roberts took the belt, a little “Aww” moment. Seriously, the acting here was so good.

So it’s time for Melina vs Jillian, and you just knew this was going to be short as hell. Melina almost instantly goes for the leg-split drop but it’s botched by Jillian, who goes down too early. Melina doesn’t quite know what to do but mounts Jillian, I guess they were having a little impromptu pow-wow here with Melina telling her to go into another finish. The set up into the Last Call was a little awkward, though understandable due to it being impromptu. Melina hits it and becomes the Divas Champion.

I really appreciate the work ethic here, yes the match was so short and incredibly botched but the fact Melina showed a cool, collectedness and an ability to think on the spot proves just why I think she should be WWE’s new top Diva. Showing initiative and opting to go for a second finish rather than pinning her on a botched leg-spit drop was a good move. In comparison, Mickie in that match with Gail… A world of difference. Melina showed initiative and handled the situation and it was nicely done given the unfortunate circumstance.

I also want to point attention to Melina’s reaction after the match. This girl is really sweet in real life and very emotional at times and that often comes across on TV too. Melina and Jillian are really great friends and you have to think that it was bittersweet for her to pin her friend, who I’m sure she would want to be champion too. After pinning her, she sort of looked at Jillian a little sadly, and again looked down at her sort of “I’m sorry” as her hand was being raised. At the end of the clip, you’ll also see her saying “I’m sorry,” more in character this time, but still not consistent with her role as a babyface. If you’d just won the title, you’d be flaunting it in your opponent’s face. For Melina, I think her some of her real personality & her real emotional nature came across and I thought it was really sweet. Looking at some of the comments being made towards Melina, I don’t know how one can be pissed off at or ‘hate’ someone who doesn’t even make the decisions; it’s as though the girl booked herself to be the champion.

More after the cut:

Jillian’s Title Reign
WWE’s overcomplicated, awful booking has been somewhat present in the main title picture [Randy Orton beating John Cena for the WWE Title just 3 weeks after he won it; Batista winning title when injured; Morrison winning IC Title instead of Ziggler when Mysterio got busted] and now it looks as though that ‘unpredictable’ and frankly, shitty booking has extended itself to the Divas. Rather than doing something logical like having Mickie drop the title to Alicia Fox on her way out, they opt to do a random transition between Mickie and Melina by way of Jillian. I think it would be far more sensical to have Mickie drop the title to Alicia, which would elevate a new Diva in the process, and then have Melina come in and feud with Alicia. But as with all things WWE, when the fuck have they ever made sense?!

Jillian’s title reign is essentially worthless. It goes in the history books, but it shouldn’t be there. As I said on the post-Raw Roundtable, Jillian was just a transitional device between Mickie and Melina without one jobbing out completely to the other as they are expected to be the top babyfaces of their respective brands. It serves no one to have Mickie job to Melina directly, or Melina to Mickie directly. Jillian gets to boast that she has held a title, which is far more than she could ever expect. Under real circumstances, Jillian would never, ever [and will never, ever] be a champion in WWE. Sad as it is, it’s the truth. The fact they put the title on her, for however brief it was, was more than she could ever hope for in her WWE career. Why did they choose Jillian? Because she’s Jillian the Jobber… her career is shot anyway, of course you’d job her out in 2 seconds flat in a title match. The fact that she used the ropes in her match with Mickie also gets them out of that predicament that the resident jobber pinned the top Diva. Jillian can say she has been a champion and I think WWE maybe to some extent, gave her a bit of a ‘rub’ in that sense in their own twisted way, recognising her work as a veteran but in the longterm, she’s a jobber to the stars.

Maria Menounos Steps Into the Ring
As well as the Divas Championship situation, Raw’s guest correspondent [glorified backstage interviewer] Maria Menounos stepped into the ring in a six Diva tag team match. She, as all female guest hosts seem to do, crossed paths with Beth Phoenix leading to a match. It would be Maria, Kelly Kelly & Gail Kim [both of whom seem to be off the injured list] taking on Beth Phoenix, Alicia Fox & Rosa Mendes in the Phoenix & Mendes’ final match on Raw.

So in her first and possibly only wrestling match, Maria looked the part of a wrestler, perhaps even more so than some of the current Divas. One point to you, Maria.

The match starts off with two of my favourite Divas, Gail Kim who at this point, is becoming Kelly’s shadow — heel turn STAT!] and Alicia Fox. Gail goes for a rollup straightaway, Alicia kicks out and Gail goes for a forearm followed by an arm wrench before tagging out to Maria Menounos. Maria & Gail throw Alicia against the ropes and hit her with a double-elbow. Maria hits two hair tosses, looking confident very confident and believable in the ring, plus Alicia is probably one of the best sellers amongst the Divas so that helps. Alicia picks up Maria and tries to take her to her team’s corner but Maria hits a decent sunset flip but Alicia kicks out. Alicia kicks Maria and drags her to her corner where she tags in the Glamazon, Beth Phoenix.

The intimidating Glamazon gets in Maria’s face, screaming at her but gets kicked square in the knee which takes her down to the canvas. Gee, I wonder why the actual Divas never think of doing that… Maria then shows off her acting ability, showing herself to be a hesitant newcomer in the ring, by looking at her teammates and wondering what to do next. I thought that was a nice touch, as it comes across as a bit of a fluke rather than out-and-out burying the real Divas. Maria slaps Beth and tags out to Kelly.

Kelly launches at Beth for a whirly bird but Beth catches her and goes for a spin into a backbreaker. Beth throws Kelly into the corner and tags in Rosa. Oh boy, this could be a trainwreck. Kelly with a kick to Rosa and then forearms, before throwing her into the corner. Kelly hits a handspring butt-bump? Rosa with a drop toe-hold on Rosa, Kelly’s neck over the middle rope. Rosa knocks Gail off the apron but not Maria, who guillotines her over the top rope. This allows Kelly to hit her step-up legdrop which always looks good, if you ask me. Team Maria gets the win! Not a great way to leave Raw for Beth & Rosa, but I guess a whole change of brand could be a good thing for Beth, they could just not mention this at all.

I thought Maria looked good in the ring, what she did was limited but she had a good ring presence, perhaps more so than the ‘real’ Maria. I would be ever so curious to see what she could be like if she joined WWE and got in even more training. Good job!

So that’s your lot for Raw this week, a complete mind-fuck, I’m sure you’ll agree. Raw will have a totally different landscape next week, so it should be an interesting Redux to write. I still don’t think all of this has sunk in.

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  • DsShin

    Even the stroyline is all fucked up, I loved the show. At least WWE cares to do something to Divas right?

  • Paul Devlin

    I mean no offense, but you sound like Melina is the second coming.

    I know it’s your opinion but this is mine. You say about ”that” match with Mickie & Gail. Was Jillian unconscious? Did she have a concussion? Did Melina botch two finishers?

    This is like comparing apples to oranges. The difference is huge. Jillian and Melina had a chance to discuss, which was painfully obvious.

    God, I really hate the way people can’t admit that their favourite wrestler made a mistake. I think it’s plain stupid.

    ”Looking at some of the comments being made towards Melina, I don’t know how one can be pissed off at or ‘hate’ someone who doesn’t even make the decisions; it’s as though the girl booked herself to be the champion.”

    I don’t think your comments provoked these comments tbh.
    ”Happy now, Jillian fans?”
    People just wanted Jillian to actually have a week as champion, but Melina may as well NEVER lose this belt, because she’ll win in back the next week or even night…
    Typical.

  • http://www.diva-dirt.com Melanie Rob

    I wasn’t comparing the matches, I was comparing Mickie’s reaction to Melina’s reaction. They both had to deal with a shitty situation and one handled it far better than the other.

    No offence to you, but you just come across as bitter.

  • http://www.diva-dirt.com Erin

    I may be a Melina fan, but it doesn’t negate the fact that I think Melina handled her botching situation better. Maybe she learned from Mickie’s mistakes, I dunno.

    Both were ugly situations, but at least Melina went for an actual finisher and nailed it before capping off the match. Mickie just went for a kick that didn’t even connect, and still made the pin. I know Gail was knocked loopy and you have to be careful in those situations, but there were so many different ways to end the match better than she did.

    That said, neither should be botching moves they’ve been doing for years now.

  • Goodnightddtmnm

    God, I really hate the way people can’t admit that their favourite wrestler made a mistake. I think it’s plain stupid…

    ”Looking at some of the comments being made towards Melina, I don’t know how one can be pissed off at or ‘hate’ someone who doesn’t even make the decisions; it’s as though the girl booked herself to be the champion.”

    Thank You Paul Devin I agree with u 110%

  • rodneyclint

    Yeah, I didn’t get a Melina fangirl vibe from this. Mickie is my girl because I feel she was someone who kind of spearheaded real women’s wrestling and she’s a great rolel model. That being said these past few months have not been her best, I feel she has botten comfortable. Her last two PPV matches could have both been on Raw. Melina however, has been showing out for a while, pulling out new moves and turning her face run into something special. I never thought I’d like her as a face but she’s great and I think she has surpassed Mickie in the top babyface division and I’m glad she’s on Raw. The only move I don’t like is Beth to Smackdown, just doesn’t sit right with me for some reason. I also do feel bad for Jillian, I mean, she’s out there for two seconds and she not only loses her title, but horrible botches while doing so. You could totally tell they talked it over when Melina was just kind of on top of Jillian haha, nice save though.

  • http://www.diva-dirt.com Melanie Rob

    FYI, Melina isn’t even my favourite Diva… There’s a difference between recognising and appreciating someone for their work & them being your favourite Diva.

  • Paul Devlin

    i am not bitter, but more annoyed at the fact WWE can’t do something new except:

    Melina winning a Title &
    Mickie vs Beth.

    I was so relieved when I heard Beth went to SD! but now, Mickie is too…

    I don’t understand why they didn’t give it to Alicia, she deserves a title more, and well, I think that was better than a 2 minute match, and then a botchfest, which was Jillian’s fault, but I cannot blame here.

    If I were here, I would leave for TNA, that way, she could get a push, since she wouldn’t have to move about, and see her daughters.

    WWE puzzles me.

  • http://www.diva-dirt.com Erin

    Goodnightddtmnm – Yeah, I hate it too. What’s your point? Where is Melanie refusing to admit that her favorite (who I guess you assume is Melina) made a mistake? Where did she gloss over it? She said that Jillian fell down, which she did, and Melina moved on to another finish. What could she say to satisfy you, that Melina caused the botch? Because from what I saw, she didn’t.

    In fact, I hate that I often, when reviewing matches, feel obligated to examine Melina closer than anyone else and feel like if I don’t point out a fault, I’ll get accused of favoring her. If I gave that kind of close, nit-picking attention to anyone else, I’d be accused of bashing. You can’t win.

  • Goodvibes

    I didnt get a Melina ‘fangirl’ vibe off this at all, infact if anything Melina deserves credit where its due and it was definitely due last night. NOONE could have predicted what would happen on Raw last night so to throw shade anyones way is a little ridiculous. Alicia isnt ready for the title yet, yes she’s hot property but she literally has no character, and expecting her to carry the division is unrealistic. I feel bad for Jillian fans, because this will probably be the closest she’ll get to a title reign in the WWE, and as Melanie said it was almost like a sick twisted way of the WWE saying ‘Hey thanks for all that jobbing youve done, heres some gold for a bit’. It wont ruin her reputation because she literally has none to begin with. Funnily enough nights like this are why being a Diva fan is so worthwhile, once in a blue you get a WTF moment that keeps you tuning back for more,

  • PedroPedroso17

    This is a real fact, Melina sold the bad situation pretty good. Much better then Mickie. I’m not saying that that KimJames match wasn’t scary, the whole thing was messy, I’m not calling Mickie unprofessional or something, we all know that she’s capable of doing amazing in the ring. BUT, apart from that, she didn’t make that good of a showing, she could’ve go for another Mick Kick, or somethin’ like that, again, I know it’s a scary situation to be involved in, but, again, Melina knew what to do and she did it well!

    By the way, Erin, in my view, Jillian [my favourite diva] was the one that botched Melina’s finisher, she went down to quickly, what can I say…it happens to the best of them…I did agree with your comment tho! <3

    "FYI, Melina isn’t even my favourite Diva… There’s a difference between recognising and appreciating someone for their work & them being your favourite Diva."

  • Mikas

    “If I were here, I would leave for TNA, that way, she could get a push”

    People keep saying that WWE Divas should leave WWE and move to TNA, with the excuus they will get a push there. But why would TNA want Jillian? Unlike Victoria she isnt a big star, doesnt have a big fanbase outside the IWC and doesnt have the model look. The casual fan only knows her from jobbing and singing. So if TNA would hire her she will end up in the same categorie as Cheerleader Melissa and Daffney, and that is to make other people look good. And if she is going to job, she might as well do it in WWE where she gets payed a LOT more.

  • RKOyou

    melanie-after Jillian powerbombed mickie,mickie was knocked out totally,Jillian didn’t even need to use the ropes,ropes or no ropes,Jillian would have beaten mickie anyway as shocking as it might me

    Jillian winning was a great moment for me,she maybe a jobber but thats WWE’s fault,they turned into a jobber,Jillian is not only a veteran in WWE but also in wrestling overall.Jillian has been wrestling for over 10 years and she has won over 12 championships outside WWE,now 13.Jillian can do a 450 splash,theres not one other diva on the roster show can do that

    Jillians divas title win was 100% deserving,she may have only been champion for 10 minutes but WWE did give her the title because WWE knows she can work unlike some other divas

  • Lee

    Why would Jillian want to move to TNA? Sure she is probably unhappy with her character and may be swallowing a bitter little pill about it, she must appreciate the wwe paycheck. Gail was at the top of her promotion when she understandably left for more paper. Jillian is probably getting papercuts from counting her cash while we type these messages.

  • Kaledrina

    Botchwise, to me, it looked to be on Melina’s part. Jillian was off balance bent backward and Melina unwrapped her arm from her neck. I’m pretty sure she usually leaves her arm round them supporting them until she hits it, not before. BUT nevertheless, it is totally forgettable, and agreed with how well both recovered from that, especially compared to Mickie/Gail.

    Really proud of Maria M – I still have no idea who she is, but even prouder of Alicia being able to make such an unexperienced faux-diva look pretty decent. I mean, Rosa couldn’t even make Mickie or Beth look good and that’s bad.

    I’m still in a state of shock, I think, lol. Which is almost pathetic, but I’m sure I’ll be used to all the changes soon enough. There’s some possible great feuds being aligned with the draft, others not so much. Hopefully whatever happens next is great.

    Jillian didn’t actually get the “RAW” end of the deal, that award has to go to Katie Lea.

  • LJ23910

    dont know if anyone esle noticed but wasit me or were Mickies eyes puffed in the match? as if shewere crying or something before she came out..could be because she was told she was apprently “fat”! grr

    WWE how low can you go????

    This is what i do not like with WWE! they do not respect the way divas have sweat blood and tears to get to where they are today!!! WWE please appreciate Mickie. she has done a lot for the company, be grateful, dont put her down over a minor weight issue. after all she isnt the size of visera!!!!

  • Tunccy

    Omg i can’t get over RAW it was so weird..

    Jillian actually won a match! i don’t care if she lost the title SHE WON a match so her losing streak stops!

    yey , jillian did a boob reduction and now the lips have to be a tad smaller and we have the good ol’jillian back.

  • .MCH

    I like Melina, really I do, but damn the girl gets overrated to hell and back sometimes.

  • jaj

    Wow. I think Melina is my favourite. I love how she obviously felt bad for Jillian and just couldnt hide it.

  • alvarado509

    Melina is a little over rated but she has actually worked hard to get to where she’s at, unlike Kelly Kelly, who is so over rated. I love Melina she is my favorite diva, but I wanted Jillian to keep the belt a little longer. Hey at least Jillian won the belt!!! I want to see a Jillian vs Melina feud. The botch looked liked it was Jillian who messed up, because she felt.

  • peteypaolo

    .mch ur idea of a good diva is candice so shut the fuck up

  • Michael

    “So apparently title opportunities are no longer earned, as Jillian…”

    I’m sorry, I love this site (to the extent where I’ve donated money) and respect the opinions, but I can’t swallow that.

    You question if Jillian earned it?
    Yet Melina shows up randomly and automatically gets a shot, no questions asked?
    Double standards, much.

    By this logic, I’m assuming every traded diva will be entitled to a shot at their brand’s respective championship?

  • http://www.diva-dirt.com Melanie Rob

    Michael — You haven’t understood. What I meant by that is in terms of storyline. I believe there should be #1 Contenders matches to earn title shots. In terms of ability, of course Jillian deserves an opportunity. But in kayfabe, she hasn’t ‘earned’ a title shot by winning a #1 Contenders match. The Melina title shot was explained as Nancy O’Dell giving it to her.

  • Michael

    Melanie – I guess I understand your point, given that Jillian’s match wasn’t given any context.

    I just think she was as entitled to a shot as Melina was, but I get that you weren’t making an opposing point to that now.

  • mercury2001

    To Melanie. I usually agree with almost everything you say and find you to be a most articulate and well informed wrestling jornalist. I have been reading Diva Dirt for about a year now and have never felt the need to post a comment until now. The way you just spoke about Jillian is very harsh and unbelivably bitchy
    “Jillian’s title reign is essentially worthless. It goes in the history books, but it shouldn’t be there”

    “Jillian gets to boast that she has held a title, which is far more than she could ever expect. Under real circumstances, Jillian would never, ever [and will never, ever] be a champion in WWE. Sad as it is, it’s the truth. The fact they put the title on her, for however brief it was, was more than she could ever hope for in her WWE career. Why did they choose Jillian? Because she’s Jillian the Jobber… her career is shot anyway, of course you’d job her out in 2 seconds flat in a title match. The fact that she used the ropes in her match with Mickie also gets them out of that predicament that the resident jobber pinned the top Diva. Jillian can say she has been a champion and I think WWE maybe to some extent, gave her a bit of a ‘rub’ in that sense in their own twisted way, recognising her work as a veteran but in the longterm, she’s a jobber to the stars”.

    How can you speak about a veteran and a woman who has done a lot more for women’s wrestling than most in the WWE. I agree that she’s never been utilsed and while you may be accurate when you call her a jobber i think you fail to giver her the credit she is due. Jillian has without question the best promo and mic skills of any diva. She is absolutely hillarious at times and does play a great heel. The few oppurtunities that WWE have given her we have seen that she is a great worker and can do acrobatic moves that most men on the roster can’t do. The only thing she doesn’t have is “model looks”. Not that she is not pretty but compared to the likes of Maryse and Kelly she doesn’t stand out. And that’s pretty much her only fault. But WWE havwe never given her a push. Like ever. If i recall correctly this is her only championship match since she’s been a part of the main roster. 1 oppurtunity in 4 years!
    Yes i am a huge Jillian fan and she is my favourite diva and i am frustrated that she was used in this way but your comments made my blood boil. I think you showed a lack of respect for one of the few talented diva’s the WWE has left