Comments on: Raw Redux (June 15, 2009) – Rosa’s a Big Girl Now

By: chrisP

chrisP — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 08:36:29 +0000

Afca, I’m not “blaming” anyone. My point was I didn’t think Maryse performed her offensive moves any better when wrestling Michelle, Gail, and Mickie or performed them any worse when wrestling Maria, Eve, and Kelly. It has always looked the same to me, no matter who she was wrestling. Same goes for her selling of other’s offense. She’s always taunted a lot, too, before and after her injury and no matter the opponent. While the quality of her matches has varied, I think it was due to her opponents as I don’t think Maryse’s peformances are much different from match-to-match, no matter the opponent.

By: afca

afca — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:31:06 +0000

chrisP, you canâ€™t blame her opponents, because when maryse
cant be carried she is just a Maria 2.0 without the spastic moves in the ring
maybe with a better moveset, but still Maryse has a lot of training to do
i actually think that Alicia will be owning Maryse at the end of this year,
ever since she recovered from her injury she hasnâ€™t done anything improving
for that I think she is an undeserving champion, she is lucky she has sooo much
charisma and a great heel but without that she would just be another pretty face
trying to wrestleâ€¦

By: Tiffany

Tiffany — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:07:17 +0000

I have a strong inclination towards Maryse as she is already amongst my favorite Divas of all time, but the thing about Maryse is, before her injury, she showed some real promise. (That seems to be the general consensus, right?) Well, she was really improving and most people were very pleased to see her take the title off of McCool. However, her move to RAW seemed to halt that momentum quite a bit. I can only speak for myself when I say that I don’t see her wrestling as much to her full potential. As Michelle McCool once put it aptly, “When all else fails, she flips her hair.” She’s right about that, as much as it pains me to admit it. For me, at least, Maryse has gotten stale. She has an interesting personality that shines onscreen, but that seems to be her only redeeming factor. Whereas Melina is seemingly trying her best to improve and prosper on Smackdown. She’s now incorporating moves we’ve haven’t seen Divas do in awhile or for a long time (i.e. Trish’s matrix move). Maryse is limited in the ring, relies on her charisma, and doesn’t seem to be trying very hard.

I only bring this up because the particular exchange between her and Mickie brought this to mind. Maryse has a notable personality. That is what she’s known for, it’s what she gets the big bucks for (amongst other things) but I feel she relies on it too much. The prime example being the ‘hair flip’ on the apron. Don’t get me wrong, I’ve always loved Maryse’s entrance, but seeing it over and over, sometimes more than twice in one match has forced it to begin to lose its luster. It’s come to the point where you begin to anticipate it, which takes the fun out of it. Which is sad, considering Maryse brought so much attitude, flair, mannerisms, and fire we haven’t seen since heel Melina, in my opinion. And now, it’s become commonplace. When she loses all the flair that initially set her apart, all we have left to focus on is her limited in-ring ability (compared to the likes of some of the other Divas). Bottom line is, she has room to improve and feel she can do that. And I believe an all-out match against Mickie could bring that fire out of her once again.

Now, as for Rosa, I don’t know…I try to keep an open mind towards new talent, but I haven’t been too impressed with Rosa since she stepped foot on RAW, and the only memorable moments to me regarding her have been in OVW when she was still regarded as ‘Roucka.’ I’m not going to rag on her too much, as she is in the same playing field right now as Alicia and Tiffany (though Alicia clearly is the most promising of the three). However, I will say this. That attire and music just have to go, and maybe the hair. Yeah, the hair too. It’s just all too much. I appreciate that WWE makes the effort to be diverse, but ‘ethnic’ Divas can make it in the business without being hokey and stereotypical (just look at Melina). It all started with the phony name, ‘Rosa Mendes’ and seemed to go downhill from there.

Ah, well, that is just my two cents on the RAW Diva fiasco. Sorry, didn’t mean to write a novel. I’ve just been out of the loop as of late, and just needed to get it all out in one sitting. Whew…I feel better now!

By: chrisP

chrisP — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 05:17:09 +0000

“Maryse only seems to do well in matches when itâ€™s her opponents that are carrying her.michelle/maryse fued was only good because Michelle was carrying maryse.Gail kim/maryse fued was only good because Gail was carrying Maryse.Now if you put Maryse in a match with divas that canâ€™t wrestler like kelly kelly,the match is going to be an EPIC fail.Maryse and Kelly have faced each other like 5 times now and each match has been one disaster after another”

I disagree. As I said before, given Maryse’s rep for repeating her favorite spots, the difference in quality is more due to her opponents. Really, did Maryse do much differently when wrestling Gail Kim then she did wrestling Maria or is Gail just a much better opponent?

By: Mace

Mace — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 03:26:22 +0000

Jillian is away because shes getting married/on her honeymoon i hope.. *crosses fingers*

By: KatieLeaRocks

KatieLeaRocks — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 00:31:16 +0000

saritafan you have to understand Rosa & Mayrse cant carry mickie’s weight on the count of they probably dont work out.NOt saying the dont. Of course Victoria is the best Seller when it comes to Mickie’s DDT. Victoria is a power house diva she had muscles,just like Beth when Mickie ddt her at Backlash 08 it was perfect b cuz sh ecan carry mickie’s weight.So can Melina

By: beau

beau — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 22:53:02 +0000

Rosa is all around bad right now. Her in-ring skills need work. Her look right now isn’t really doing it for me either, but she still has so much potential. The dirty blonde hair isn’t working for her and neither are those bella-inspired tops. She needs to pull an Amy Winehouse and go “back to black.” She was so fierce during the ‘06 Diva Search and really rocked a great look with the black hair. I loved her temper tantrums in FCW. I agree that she is a great hothead and should incorporate that into her character more often. I love her, but she just needs a lot of work right now.

I hated Maryse’s dress. It looked so tacky; it was definitely stolen from Velvet Sky’s closet (not that she’s copying TBP, just that it’s trashy). I loved the jacket and the hair though!

Mickie did the best with what she was given. The blatant stare at Maryse during the pin was definitely a nice touch.

By: megagary

megagary — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 21:45:20 +0000

i think main issue with mickies ddt is maryse and rosa do not have the strength to get her high enough, its nt tht she makes it look bad, its others who are literally not carrying her enough

By: saritafan

saritafan — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:50:10 +0000

Maryse only seems to do well in matches when it’s her opponents that are carrying her.michelle/maryse fued was only good because Michelle was carrying maryse.Gail kim/maryse fued was only good because Gail was carrying Maryse.Now if you put Maryse in a match with divas that can’t wrestler like kelly kelly,the match is going to be an EPIC fail.Maryse and Kelly have faced each other like 5 times now and each match has been one disaster after another

Maryse thinks that just because she has a title on her shoulder,she doesn’t have to work hard,once she loses the title,trust me,Maryse skills might improve

as for Rosa mendez,yeah,she plain out sucks,i have no idea why WWE hired her because I know it wasn’t for her wrestling skills but what else is new when it comes to WWE divas,half of them are hired and they can’t wrestler

Mickie is awesome but her DDT move has bored me now,the move is nto even the same anymore.Before,Mickie use to fly all around the ring and then nail the DDT,now she just jumps up and goes down,BORING,no one will ever sell Mickies DDT like Victoria did

i agree with trishrocks up there,maybe Jillian is taking a break and when mickie wins the divas title,BAM,Jillian returns and gets her well deserved push

overall,raw divas have no direction whats so ever and they need guidence and more talent,you have Natayla and katie lea on ECW wasting there talent,theres your talent

By: Litaker61

Litaker61 — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:11:27 +0000

The match was really boring, in my opinion. I just didnt think there was anything memorable, nothing stood out it was just plain. Rosa has been a complete flop since joining Raw. Shes been there since the start of the year and I cant remember one decent thing shes done, waste of space if you ask me. I dont really think the in-ring work is Raw’s problem, I think the problem is a lot of the Raw girls dont have chemistry with eachother, and I think Mickie-Maryse is a prime example. I have not enjoyed the feud and I think a Beth-Maryse feud is needed. During the Survivor Series match, for the little time they had, I thought Beth and Maryse shared great chemistry and I think that feud is just what Raw needs to rival Smackdown which is on fire at the moment, although Id like to see more Gail Kim.