Comments on: SmackDown Redux (October 2nd, 2009) – Mind Your Own Brand Business! http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/10/02/smackdown-redux-october-2nd-2009-mind-your-own-brand-business/ Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:28:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: mrkreakybones http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/10/02/smackdown-redux-october-2nd-2009-mind-your-own-brand-business/comment-page-1/#comment-24977 mrkreakybones Mon, 05 Oct 2009 18:36:36 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=14335#comment-24977 Which divas were missing from the lumberjill match on Smackdown? I can understand why Raw champ Mickey James and ECW manger Tiffany were unavailable, but where was Gail Kim? Anyone else missing? Which divas were missing from the lumberjill match on Smackdown? I can understand why Raw champ Mickey James and ECW manger Tiffany were unavailable, but where was Gail Kim? Anyone else missing?

]]> By: ScottL http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/10/02/smackdown-redux-october-2nd-2009-mind-your-own-brand-business/comment-page-1/#comment-24885 ScottL Sun, 04 Oct 2009 19:14:55 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=14335#comment-24885 I usually try not to be overly critical, but it's time to unify the women's titles. The Diva belt experiment is a failure, IMO, because there's not enough Divas or time allowed to the division. I don't suggest they eliminate the Diva belt, just unify it for now and let the unified champ move around the brands, like JeriShow does in the tag division. It would solve the problem of lack of challengers. And please, do NOT make the unified champ Michelle McCool, one of the most boring top level heels in WWE Diva history, IMO. I know she has fans and I respect that, but her push and keeping the belt despite being inactive due to an injury for a long period has more to do with being the Undertaker's girlfriend than her abilities. There's always been backstage politics in the WWE. She's not terrible, but as the writer Gertrude Stein once wrote about the city ofOakland, Ca., "There's no there there." I usually try not to be overly critical, but it’s time to unify the women’s titles. The Diva belt experiment is a failure, IMO, because there’s not enough Divas or time allowed to the division. I don’t suggest they eliminate the Diva belt, just unify it for now and let the unified champ move around the brands, like JeriShow does in the tag division. It would solve the problem of lack of challengers.

And please, do NOT make the unified champ Michelle McCool, one of the most boring top level heels in WWE Diva history, IMO. I know she has fans and I respect that, but her push and keeping the belt despite being inactive due to an injury for a long period has more to do with being the Undertaker’s girlfriend than her abilities. There’s always been backstage politics in the WWE. She’s not terrible, but as the writer Gertrude Stein once wrote about the city ofOakland, Ca., “There’s no there there.”

]]> By: WWEDivaFan09 http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/10/02/smackdown-redux-october-2nd-2009-mind-your-own-brand-business/comment-page-1/#comment-24822 WWEDivaFan09 Sat, 03 Oct 2009 20:50:14 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=14335#comment-24822 I couldn't agree more xmelissaa. Having Maria push Melina off the rope would have made more sense than having Beth do it. But, 'making sense' and 'WWE' do not belong in the same sentence. I couldn’t agree more xmelissaa. Having Maria push Melina off the rope would have made more sense than having Beth do it. But, ‘making sense’ and ‘WWE’ do not belong in the same sentence.

]]> By: xmelissaa http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/10/02/smackdown-redux-october-2nd-2009-mind-your-own-brand-business/comment-page-1/#comment-24793 xmelissaa Sat, 03 Oct 2009 10:27:09 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=14335#comment-24793 Also, did anyone else notice in Smackdown's new intro, basically all of the divas are shown twice? In Raw's titles, only like... 3 of their divas are shown. That could just be me being overly-observant though. Also, did anyone else notice in Smackdown’s new intro, basically all of the divas are shown twice? In Raw’s titles, only like… 3 of their divas are shown.
That could just be me being overly-observant though.

]]> By: xmelissaa http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/10/02/smackdown-redux-october-2nd-2009-mind-your-own-brand-business/comment-page-1/#comment-24792 xmelissaa Sat, 03 Oct 2009 10:18:55 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=14335#comment-24792 It was a little... meh... uninspired. I think it should've been Maria that pushed Melina off the top rope, not Beth. I mean, did you see the look she gave her as she came in? That way, it would've incorporated into some kind of storyline. And does Savannah EVER wear any colour except purple? It was a little… meh… uninspired.
I think it should’ve been Maria that pushed Melina off the top rope, not Beth. I mean, did you see the look she gave her as she came in? That way, it would’ve incorporated into some kind of storyline.

And does Savannah EVER wear any colour except purple?

]]> By: spiffy http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/10/02/smackdown-redux-october-2nd-2009-mind-your-own-brand-business/comment-page-1/#comment-24788 spiffy Sat, 03 Oct 2009 05:12:41 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=14335#comment-24788 I hope people aren't overreacting again with inter-brand feuds and illusions of divas switching shows. Tonight was just an anniversary show with all three rosters present. Zack Ryder isn't jumping to Raw because he couldn't get in the VIP Lounge. Royal Rumble is around the time wrestlers usually begin appearing on other shows, leading up to Wrestlemania. Shortly after, it's the annual Draft. I highly doubt WWE switches wrestlers again this year and kill the buzz of next year's roster draft. Bragging Rights I think of as WWE's equivalent of an All-Star Game, so I don't expect anything but a one-off exhibition. Same if they do inter-brand Survivor Series diva match. If history repeats itself, I don't expect any crossover brand storylines happening until early next year. I hope people aren’t overreacting again with inter-brand feuds and illusions of divas switching shows. Tonight was just an anniversary show with all three rosters present. Zack Ryder isn’t jumping to Raw because he couldn’t get in the VIP Lounge.

Royal Rumble is around the time wrestlers usually begin appearing on other shows, leading up to Wrestlemania. Shortly after, it’s the annual Draft. I highly doubt WWE switches wrestlers again this year and kill the buzz of next year’s roster draft.

Bragging Rights I think of as WWE’s equivalent of an All-Star Game, so I don’t expect anything but a one-off exhibition. Same if they do inter-brand Survivor Series diva match. If history repeats itself, I don’t expect any crossover brand storylines happening until early next year.

]]> By: Lovedaddio http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/10/02/smackdown-redux-october-2nd-2009-mind-your-own-brand-business/comment-page-1/#comment-24785 Lovedaddio Sat, 03 Oct 2009 03:40:28 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=14335#comment-24785 IMO, this is the fundamental and never-ending problem with the WWE and the Divas in general. Too few wrestlers spread over too many brands. With an average of only 4-6 per each brand, how can you honestly come up with creative and original storylines when ultimately it's going to be the same matches week after week? Not that the WWE truly cares about properly developing the Divas anyway. I'm one who believes that the only way for the Divas to ever truly shine is for them to have their own weekly one hour show. I guarantee that an all divas show on Thurs. nights would crush the terrible ratings that Superstars is getting. With 4-5 matches each week, you'd be able to match anyone up with anyone, properly develop characters, and cultivate alliances and feuds. Talented stars like Katie Lea and Natalya wouldn't be relegated to embarassing valet roles. The Bellas, Rosa, Tiffany and others would be able to get the work they so desperately need in front of big crowds. It didn't surprise me when Kristal Marshall revealed that Michael P.S. (Predictably Stupid) Hayes was involved with the writing for the Divas. He strikes me as the typical type of writer/booker that purely sees the Divas as eye candy, not worthy of interesting, and involved storylines. I'm pretty new here but has it ever been discussed as to why WWE seemingly has never had a former female star to be involved with writing for the Divas (Ivory, Lita, maybe Jacqueline)?? And to me, Stephanie McMahon's stint a while back doesn't count. IMO, this is the fundamental and never-ending problem with the WWE and the Divas in general. Too few wrestlers spread over too many brands. With an average of only 4-6 per each brand, how can you honestly come up with creative and original storylines when ultimately it’s going to be the same matches week after week? Not that the WWE truly cares about properly developing the Divas anyway.
I’m one who believes that the only way for the Divas to ever truly shine is for them to have their own weekly one hour show. I guarantee that an all divas show on Thurs. nights would crush the terrible ratings that Superstars is getting. With 4-5 matches each week, you’d be able to match anyone up with anyone, properly develop characters, and cultivate alliances and feuds. Talented stars like Katie Lea and Natalya wouldn’t be relegated to embarassing valet roles. The Bellas, Rosa, Tiffany and others would be able to get the work they so desperately need in front of big crowds.

It didn’t surprise me when Kristal Marshall revealed that Michael P.S. (Predictably Stupid) Hayes was
involved with the writing for the Divas. He strikes me as the typical type of writer/booker that purely
sees the Divas as eye candy, not worthy of interesting, and involved storylines. I’m pretty new here but has it ever been discussed as to why WWE seemingly has never had a former female star to be involved with writing for the Divas (Ivory, Lita, maybe Jacqueline)?? And to me, Stephanie McMahon’s stint a while back doesn’t count.

]]> By: czerHD http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/10/02/smackdown-redux-october-2nd-2009-mind-your-own-brand-business/comment-page-1/#comment-24768 czerHD Fri, 02 Oct 2009 22:27:37 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=14335#comment-24768 match seemed rushed and thrown together last minute (like u guys said .... match showing all the girls lol) i think beth will be going to smackdown cause when the brawl broke out she didnt get involved at all ..... plus with maryse returning soon and alicia fox recent hot streak on raw plus melina could use a new opponent match seemed rushed and thrown together last minute (like u guys said …. match showing all the girls lol) i think beth will be going to smackdown cause when the brawl broke out she didnt get involved at all ….. plus with maryse returning soon and alicia fox recent hot streak on raw plus melina could use a new opponent

]]> By: Artie http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/10/02/smackdown-redux-october-2nd-2009-mind-your-own-brand-business/comment-page-1/#comment-24759 Artie Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:49:29 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=14335#comment-24759 Forgot to add that was the highlight of the match for me lol Forgot to add that was the highlight of the match for me lol

]]> By: Artie http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/10/02/smackdown-redux-october-2nd-2009-mind-your-own-brand-business/comment-page-1/#comment-24758 Artie Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:48:57 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=14335#comment-24758 LMAO! I know rico Layla is vicious haha Thats why I love her :) LMAO!
I know rico
Layla is vicious haha
Thats why I love her :)

]]> By: rico http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/10/02/smackdown-redux-october-2nd-2009-mind-your-own-brand-business/comment-page-1/#comment-24755 rico Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:31:01 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=14335#comment-24755 Lol Artie i just posted that on a board! Layla was whooping Savannahs ass hahaha Lol Artie i just posted that on a board! Layla was whooping Savannahs ass hahaha

]]> By: Artie http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/10/02/smackdown-redux-october-2nd-2009-mind-your-own-brand-business/comment-page-1/#comment-24741 Artie Fri, 02 Oct 2009 20:08:31 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=14335#comment-24741 Was I the only one screaming like a little girl when Layla and Savannah goin at it? I love those girls and DAMN! Layla was f**kin her up! haha I felt a little bad for her lol Was I the only one screaming like a little girl when Layla and Savannah goin at it?
I love those girls and DAMN! Layla was f**kin her up! haha
I felt a little bad for her lol

]]> By: WWEDivaFan09 http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/10/02/smackdown-redux-october-2nd-2009-mind-your-own-brand-business/comment-page-1/#comment-24740 WWEDivaFan09 Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:51:07 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=14335#comment-24740 The video was actually removed, but I'm looking forward to watching Michelle take on Melina. No matter how many matches they have against one another, I'm always impressed [two talented WWE Divas], and I expect for this match to be the same even though it's apparent that it's a short match. The video was actually removed, but I’m looking forward to watching Michelle take on Melina. No matter how many matches they have against one another, I’m always impressed [two talented WWE Divas], and I expect for this match to be the same even though it’s apparent that it’s a short match.

]]> By: MickieJamesFan07 http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/10/02/smackdown-redux-october-2nd-2009-mind-your-own-brand-business/comment-page-1/#comment-24739 MickieJamesFan07 Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:47:24 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=14335#comment-24739 Armando- I have been reading that all thats changing the PPV is the name and it will be RAW vs SD, so I am sure that the fans will still be able to vote on things. The Halloween contests don't really bother me, its the fact that its all they do with the divas, so there's no match. Armando- I have been reading that all thats changing the PPV is the name and it will be RAW vs SD, so I am sure that the fans will still be able to vote on things. The Halloween contests don’t really bother me, its the fact that its all they do with the divas, so there’s no match.

]]> By: Armando http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/10/02/smackdown-redux-october-2nd-2009-mind-your-own-brand-business/comment-page-1/#comment-24736 Armando Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:40:08 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=14335#comment-24736 That does sound exciting, I'll watch that! Hopefully they keep the tradition of it being a fan based ppv and let the fans vote and maybe that could be one of the options and if we all vote for it, that will totally happen. WWE tends to ruin the divas during Halloween type so I wouldn't be surprised if the divas end up doing a costume contest like they have done in the past. I just wish WWE would add more divas to their ppvs! That does sound exciting, I’ll watch that! Hopefully they keep the tradition of it being a fan based ppv and let the fans vote and maybe that could be one of the options and if we all vote for it, that will totally happen. WWE tends to ruin the divas during Halloween type so I wouldn’t be surprised if the divas end up doing a costume contest like they have done in the past. I just wish WWE would add more divas to their ppvs!

]]> By: MickieJamesFan07 http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/10/02/smackdown-redux-october-2nd-2009-mind-your-own-brand-business/comment-page-1/#comment-24735 MickieJamesFan07 Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:34:20 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=14335#comment-24735 Armando- Wouldn't it be really awesome to see Mickie and Beth vs Michelle and Melina at Bragging Rights?? A heel team with a face. and since Mickie and Beth hate eachother as do Michelle and Melina, there's bound to be drama! Armando- Wouldn’t it be really awesome to see Mickie and Beth vs Michelle and Melina at Bragging Rights?? A heel team with a face. and since Mickie and Beth hate eachother as do Michelle and Melina, there’s bound to be drama!

]]> By: Armando http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/10/02/smackdown-redux-october-2nd-2009-mind-your-own-brand-business/comment-page-1/#comment-24731 Armando Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:50:31 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=14335#comment-24731 I think it does mean something. Remember WWE Bragging Rights is just 3 weeks away and it's supposed to be a Raw vs Smackdown type ppv. So maybe this will lead into the Sd divas vs the Raw divas? Or maybe just Michelle vs Beth who knows, WWE is so stupid that they will ruin everything! I think it does mean something. Remember WWE Bragging Rights is just 3 weeks away and it’s supposed to be a Raw vs Smackdown type ppv. So maybe this will lead into the Sd divas vs the Raw divas? Or maybe just Michelle vs Beth who knows, WWE is so stupid that they will ruin everything!

]]> By: mr_socko http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/10/02/smackdown-redux-october-2nd-2009-mind-your-own-brand-business/comment-page-1/#comment-24730 mr_socko Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:44:46 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=14335#comment-24730 i enjoyed the match. considering how short it was, it was pretty eventful. great faithbreaker to win it. i enjoyed the match. considering how short it was, it was pretty eventful. great faithbreaker to win it.

]]> By: Hassam http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/10/02/smackdown-redux-october-2nd-2009-mind-your-own-brand-business/comment-page-1/#comment-24729 Hassam Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:44:30 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=14335#comment-24729 this was the worst lumber jill match ever in wwe history this was the worst lumber jill match ever in wwe history

]]> By: MickieJamesFan07 http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/10/02/smackdown-redux-october-2nd-2009-mind-your-own-brand-business/comment-page-1/#comment-24727 MickieJamesFan07 Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:42:05 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=14335#comment-24727 Boring match. Michelle was a bit sloppy, still not 100 percent yet. Boring match. Michelle was a bit sloppy, still not 100 percent yet.

]]> By: Pedro http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/10/02/smackdown-redux-october-2nd-2009-mind-your-own-brand-business/comment-page-1/#comment-24726 Pedro Fri, 02 Oct 2009 18:12:40 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=14335#comment-24726 The match itself was definitely not up to par to what I imagined, they were hesitating quite a bit. Could have been a hell of a lot better. The match itself was definitely not up to par to what I imagined, they were hesitating quite a bit. Could have been a hell of a lot better.

]]> By: keyanna22 http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/10/02/smackdown-redux-october-2nd-2009-mind-your-own-brand-business/comment-page-1/#comment-24713 keyanna22 Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:37:31 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=14335#comment-24713 Umm Yea what can you say about a lumberjill match that we have seen plenty of times. This week for the divas sucked IMO. Rooting for Alicia Foxx on Sunday though Umm Yea what can you say about a lumberjill match that we have seen plenty of times. This week for the divas sucked IMO.

Rooting for Alicia Foxx on Sunday though

]]> By: keyanna22 http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/10/02/smackdown-redux-october-2nd-2009-mind-your-own-brand-business/comment-page-1/#comment-24712 keyanna22 Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:36:42 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=14335#comment-24712 Umm Yea what can you say about a lumberjill match that we have seen plenty of times. This week for the divas sucked IMO. Umm Yea what can you say about a lumberjill match that we have seen plenty of times. This week for the divas sucked IMO.

]]> By: Mikas http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/10/02/smackdown-redux-october-2nd-2009-mind-your-own-brand-business/comment-page-1/#comment-24707 Mikas Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:06:04 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=14335#comment-24707 I missed 4 names: Maryse, Mickey James, Gail Kim, Courtney Taylor Maryse is understandable because of her knee, Courtney has unknown personal issues, and Mickey might've given an offday because she worked lots of dates even though she was injured. But for Gail Kim we still dont have an explanation. Earlier people assume she was pulled from the canadian tour because she was going to be moved to Smackdown, but leaving her off this show doesnt make sense. I missed 4 names: Maryse, Mickey James, Gail Kim, Courtney Taylor

Maryse is understandable because of her knee, Courtney has unknown personal issues, and Mickey might’ve given an offday because she worked lots of dates even though she was injured. But for Gail Kim we still dont have an explanation. Earlier people assume she was pulled from the canadian tour because she was going to be moved to Smackdown, but leaving her off this show doesnt make sense.

]]> By: Goodnightddtmnm http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/10/02/smackdown-redux-october-2nd-2009-mind-your-own-brand-business/comment-page-1/#comment-24706 Goodnightddtmnm Fri, 02 Oct 2009 14:01:40 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=14335#comment-24706 I agree with TheregoesKitty I dont think that will start a beth & Michelle fued it was just revenge off Melina....But then again I would love to see a Michelle/Beth/Melina fued.....but I honestly think if beth goes to SD then we can say by bye to Layla b cuz she wont get that much screen time no more I agree with TheregoesKitty I dont think that will start a beth & Michelle fued it was just revenge off Melina….But then again I would love to see a Michelle/Beth/Melina fued…..but I honestly think if beth goes to SD then we can say by bye to Layla b cuz she wont get that much screen time no more

]]> By: theregoeskitty http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/10/02/smackdown-redux-october-2nd-2009-mind-your-own-brand-business/comment-page-1/#comment-24704 theregoeskitty Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:58:51 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=14335#comment-24704 it wasn't a stare down with michelle, beth was just smiling at michelle, IMO i doubt this is the beginning of a rivalry, just beths revenge for melina taking her title and running off with it it looks like things will kick off with maria soon her going scrunch faced as melina came to the ring was a bit of a obviouse hint it wasn’t a stare down with michelle, beth was just smiling at michelle,
IMO i doubt this is the beginning of a rivalry,
just beths revenge for melina taking her title and running off with it

it looks like things will kick off with maria soon
her going scrunch faced as melina came to the ring was a bit of a obviouse hint

]]> By: Mace http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/10/02/smackdown-redux-october-2nd-2009-mind-your-own-brand-business/comment-page-1/#comment-24702 Mace Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:53:26 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=14335#comment-24702 Decent match considering the time they were given, it really sucks they werent given anymore time considering the theme/length of the show. I liked the interference from Jillian and Beth. Decent match considering the time they were given, it really sucks they werent given anymore time considering the theme/length of the show. I liked the interference from Jillian and Beth.

]]> By: Goodnightddtmnm http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/10/02/smackdown-redux-october-2nd-2009-mind-your-own-brand-business/comment-page-1/#comment-24700 Goodnightddtmnm Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:46:18 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=14335#comment-24700 The Match was Okay Melina & Michelle Matches are always good....but anyway Beth staring Michelle down dosent mean anything I dont think....If it does I would use this thing to start a SD vs Raw Divas fued...Remeber guys in that tag team match with Gail & Mickie & Kelly vs Beth & Rosa and Alicia Beth stared down gail.....where did that Go ?. The Match was Okay Melina & Michelle Matches are always good….but anyway Beth staring Michelle down dosent mean anything I dont think….If it does I would use this thing to start a SD vs Raw Divas fued…Remeber guys in that tag team match with Gail & Mickie & Kelly vs Beth & Rosa and Alicia Beth stared down gail…..where did that Go ?.

]]> By: NatalyaFan http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/10/02/smackdown-redux-october-2nd-2009-mind-your-own-brand-business/comment-page-1/#comment-24697 NatalyaFan Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:36:48 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=14335#comment-24697 With the outside interference, I definitely felt that this match didn't really get off the ground. It's a real shame. With the outside interference, I definitely felt that this match didn’t really get off the ground. It’s a real shame.

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