Tonight’s Raw is hosted by NASCAR drivers Kyle Busch and Joey Logano. Tune in for several cheesy racing metaphors and any possible Diva race-inspired involvement.
Discuss tonight’s Raw, as always, here as it happens!
TrishMelinaFan; Melina was careless in the headscissors thing. If you looked, you could see that she wasn’t trying, and Jillian wasn’t carrying her fully through the move, as I said, she was unable to do it without 100% effort from both of them. But the Sunset Flip Powerbomb was just an accident between the both of them.
Okay, thats enough. I’m sick of arguing about this when it was clear it was down to both of them, and not one person, which I have stated. But of course, the Melina fans still try to pitch it all on Jillian, whereas the Jillian fans are able to state when she is at fault. (I am not refering to you, TrishMelinaFan, I’m just stating what I have come across on several other forums).
xxQOXxx
October 27, 2009 at 2:12 pm
I haven’t read threw this whole page but whilst i was watch Eve as the ring announcer all i could think was how good it would be if Maryse attacked Eve for flirting with The Miz for the next few weeks.
I see The Miz & Maryse as a bitchy couple like Chuck & Blair in Gossip Girl. And i think it would be awesome if they did something with Eve.
P.S
Mixed tag sucked
Melina sucked
Jillian sucked
And the Bella’s were The Bella’s
Goodnightddtmnm
October 27, 2009 at 2:34 pm
I saw the match and it was just bad…. I dont think its the divas its RAW….Im mean seriously melina was on Smackdown and never botched…now she is on raw and botches…or maybe its jillian IDK….Jillian is one of my top fav but it was up to her to carry melina in that head scsissors move and the last call…
mr_socko
October 27, 2009 at 2:36 pm
@PedroPedroso17 !!!
to quote you: “Maryse V.S. Eve on RAW won’t be a botchy match at all…seriously, Maryse isn’t as good as Melina or Jillian in-ring wise and Eve is just slow and she’s now the worst in-ring diva on RAW, next to the Bellas.”
When Maryse and Eve finally have a match, perhaps there will be a botch or two. Who knows. But I think they deserve a chance to show us what they can do, don’t you? It seems as though you are suggesting that there should just never be a match or feud between them because they might botch. Surely the point is to give these up and coming girls the chance to grow and improve. Melina and Jillian are seasoned veterans. Melina has had several title runs and countless pushes, so I don’t think having a feud for the title between the likes of Maryse and Eve is a bad idea – it is something new and fresh.
Clearly you are not a fan of Maryse, and yes she still has some improving to do… But she is the future, so you have to accept it
Mikas
October 27, 2009 at 3:24 pm
“Need i say more, RAw ruins divas”
Not just the divas, also the rest of the show.
- Evan Bourne (Matt Sydal)…has accomplished a lot in the indies and on ECW, the fans love him
- Jack Swaggert…has the potential to become a new Kurt Angle/Mr. Perfect
- Chavo Guerrero…take a look at his classic lightweight matches, and then look at his RAW work
And now they are also going to ruin Sheamus, who was one of the highlights of ECW
Fortunately Smackdown/ECW still put on a good show, but i wouldnt mind if RAW vanished from tv.
SophStar-x
October 27, 2009 at 3:56 pm
The match wasnt great at all. Horny should just be future endeavoured.
Oh and Eve shouldnt ring announce again.
Shaneomanias
October 27, 2009 at 6:23 pm
Poor Jillian
TNAFan80
October 27, 2009 at 7:28 pm
You guys have to remember that Smackdown was taped, therefore if there was a botched spot during the match it was done again and the botch spot was edited out before the match actually aired. On RAW the Divas are live and therefore you will see more botches then their matches on Smackdown. All you have to do is go back and watch some of the Smackdown Diva matches on pay-per-view, and you will see that Melina botched several moves.
TheHartDynasty
October 27, 2009 at 8:25 pm
Okay most of you on here are blaming hornswaggle for coming out and them only getting two minutes to work with, I pin this whole botch fest on Jillian, two times going up against Melina she has effed up her finisher, just keep her in the back why bring her to the ring if she is just going to have a botch fest. Its kind of sad lol when a Dwarf gets more cheers then the Divas, well not sad kind of funny if you ask me. People weren’t even watching Melina do her weird split thing they were watching to see what hornswaggle was going to do. Its just goes to show you were the divas stand on Raw when they are put in a Tag Match with Santino and Chavo w/ hornswaggle interfering. I’ll tell you this for a fact jillian and any other diva will be kicked to the curb befor Hornswaggle.
TheHartDynasty
October 27, 2009 at 8:38 pm
one more thing EVE DAMN she was looking real nice and i see a Miz, Swagger and Eve love triangle in the future and since The Miz was with Maryse for a minute, i think Maryse will be coming back real soon to feud with Eve, I like Eve and really want to see her get some air time.
RKOyou
October 27, 2009 at 9:11 pm
TheHartDynasty-stop blaming Jillian,it was melinas fault also,your only taking melinas side because she’s the bigger well guess what,melina ain’t perfect
Alexandre
October 27, 2009 at 9:22 pm
Meh , this match was horrible…both Divas were lame , as were their partners.Melina is getting so stale , same boring moves , I’m starting to dislike her.Jillian is botching a lot too , I don’t know what is happening with the duo.
Mikas
October 27, 2009 at 9:32 pm
“Melina is getting so stale , same boring moves”
You can say the same for 99% of every wrestler in the industry. Every wrestler does the same moves over and over again. Only when wrestlers are in long matches they occasionally add new moves, or sometimes they must adjust because their opponent is too tall or too heavy. But when a wrestler has to work a match under 5 minutes, they usually only showcase their signature-moves because those moves get the best crowd reaction.
adifferentsame
October 27, 2009 at 9:38 pm
Oh dear. This… was sheer crap.
Perhaps Melina’s wrestling style isn’t suited for live television? I imagine there would need to be extensive training alone to sell most of her innovative offense – and given that Jillian spent the best part of the year jobbing to Kelly Kelly’s repetitive three minute spot choreography, she wasn’t the greatest opponent to pair her with. I like Jillian, really I do, but it’s evident that the jobbing has allocated severe ring rust to her fair level of ability. It would be nice to actually see more of what she can do in the ring. Having said that, if my career had transpired the way Jillian’s has, my love for wrestling would have been diminished too.
Since Hornswoggle’s appeal expired sometime after the disastrous paternity storyline with Vince McMahon, he really has no business in the ring – and I’m sick to the back teeth of watching him involved with the Diva segments. If the WWE really need a fix on their gimmick cravings, then at least shove him over to ECW and have him work with the useless Rosa Mendes. The sad fact is that Melina and Jillian have openly stated their desire to work with each other. I think they could do so much better than this. I agree with what’s been said: give the two ladies their dues, let them have a single’s match with a decent amount of time and watch the sparks fly. Women’s wrestling doesn’t have to be an accessory to the show. I wish the writers would realise this.
TheHartDynasty
October 27, 2009 at 10:12 pm
RKOyou im sorry from what i saw melina went for her finisher and Jillian could eather not hold her and moved forward making her and melina fall forwar, as for last week Melina went for her split finisher and once again Jillian botched it. I think with the way the divas are going on Raw we should have another divas trade Move Michelle McCool, Beth Phonix and Katea Lea Burchill and possibly Mickie James to Raw and Move Jillian and Kelly Kelly and maybe even Melina back to Smackdown that way we can have the girls who actually can work Live TV events w/0 botches wrestle. Michelle shows extreme agression when she enters the ring and even if she botches she can cover it up well, Beth is just an extremelly telented wrestler as is Katea Lea. As for Mickie i think if Beth, Michelle, Katea and Gail were on the same show she would work great with theose divas. Guess i am just real tired of watching crappy diva matches on wwe #1 show That should be left for ECW.
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October 27, 2009 at 1:39 pm
the match was a disgrace
October 27, 2009 at 1:40 pm
TrishMelinaFan; Melina was careless in the headscissors thing. If you looked, you could see that she wasn’t trying, and Jillian wasn’t carrying her fully through the move, as I said, she was unable to do it without 100% effort from both of them. But the Sunset Flip Powerbomb was just an accident between the both of them.
Okay, thats enough. I’m sick of arguing about this when it was clear it was down to both of them, and not one person, which I have stated. But of course, the Melina fans still try to pitch it all on Jillian, whereas the Jillian fans are able to state when she is at fault. (I am not refering to you, TrishMelinaFan, I’m just stating what I have come across on several other forums).
October 27, 2009 at 2:12 pm
I haven’t read threw this whole page but whilst i was watch Eve as the ring announcer all i could think was how good it would be if Maryse attacked Eve for flirting with The Miz for the next few weeks.
I see The Miz & Maryse as a bitchy couple like Chuck & Blair in Gossip Girl. And i think it would be awesome if they did something with Eve.
P.S
Mixed tag sucked
Melina sucked
Jillian sucked
And the Bella’s were The Bella’s
October 27, 2009 at 2:34 pm
I saw the match and it was just bad…. I dont think its the divas its RAW….Im mean seriously melina was on Smackdown and never botched…now she is on raw and botches…or maybe its jillian IDK….Jillian is one of my top fav but it was up to her to carry melina in that head scsissors move and the last call…
October 27, 2009 at 2:36 pm
@PedroPedroso17 !!!
to quote you: “Maryse V.S. Eve on RAW won’t be a botchy match at all…seriously, Maryse isn’t as good as Melina or Jillian in-ring wise and Eve is just slow and she’s now the worst in-ring diva on RAW, next to the Bellas.”
When Maryse and Eve finally have a match, perhaps there will be a botch or two. Who knows. But I think they deserve a chance to show us what they can do, don’t you? It seems as though you are suggesting that there should just never be a match or feud between them because they might botch. Surely the point is to give these up and coming girls the chance to grow and improve. Melina and Jillian are seasoned veterans. Melina has had several title runs and countless pushes, so I don’t think having a feud for the title between the likes of Maryse and Eve is a bad idea – it is something new and fresh.
Clearly you are not a fan of Maryse, and yes she still has some improving to do… But she is the future, so you have to accept it
October 27, 2009 at 3:24 pm
“Need i say more, RAw ruins divas”
Not just the divas, also the rest of the show.
- Evan Bourne (Matt Sydal)…has accomplished a lot in the indies and on ECW, the fans love him
- Jack Swaggert…has the potential to become a new Kurt Angle/Mr. Perfect
- Chavo Guerrero…take a look at his classic lightweight matches, and then look at his RAW work
And now they are also going to ruin Sheamus, who was one of the highlights of ECW
Fortunately Smackdown/ECW still put on a good show, but i wouldnt mind if RAW vanished from tv.
October 27, 2009 at 3:56 pm
The match wasnt great at all. Horny should just be future endeavoured.
Oh and Eve shouldnt ring announce again.
October 27, 2009 at 6:23 pm
Poor Jillian
October 27, 2009 at 7:28 pm
You guys have to remember that Smackdown was taped, therefore if there was a botched spot during the match it was done again and the botch spot was edited out before the match actually aired. On RAW the Divas are live and therefore you will see more botches then their matches on Smackdown. All you have to do is go back and watch some of the Smackdown Diva matches on pay-per-view, and you will see that Melina botched several moves.
October 27, 2009 at 8:25 pm
Okay most of you on here are blaming hornswaggle for coming out and them only getting two minutes to work with, I pin this whole botch fest on Jillian, two times going up against Melina she has effed up her finisher, just keep her in the back why bring her to the ring if she is just going to have a botch fest. Its kind of sad lol when a Dwarf gets more cheers then the Divas, well not sad kind of funny if you ask me. People weren’t even watching Melina do her weird split thing they were watching to see what hornswaggle was going to do. Its just goes to show you were the divas stand on Raw when they are put in a Tag Match with Santino and Chavo w/ hornswaggle interfering. I’ll tell you this for a fact jillian and any other diva will be kicked to the curb befor Hornswaggle.
October 27, 2009 at 8:38 pm
one more thing EVE DAMN she was looking real nice and i see a Miz, Swagger and Eve love triangle in the future and since The Miz was with Maryse for a minute, i think Maryse will be coming back real soon to feud with Eve, I like Eve and really want to see her get some air time.
October 27, 2009 at 9:11 pm
TheHartDynasty-stop blaming Jillian,it was melinas fault also,your only taking melinas side because she’s the bigger well guess what,melina ain’t perfect
October 27, 2009 at 9:22 pm
Meh , this match was horrible…both Divas were lame , as were their partners.Melina is getting so stale , same boring moves , I’m starting to dislike her.Jillian is botching a lot too , I don’t know what is happening with the duo.
October 27, 2009 at 9:32 pm
“Melina is getting so stale , same boring moves”
You can say the same for 99% of every wrestler in the industry. Every wrestler does the same moves over and over again. Only when wrestlers are in long matches they occasionally add new moves, or sometimes they must adjust because their opponent is too tall or too heavy. But when a wrestler has to work a match under 5 minutes, they usually only showcase their signature-moves because those moves get the best crowd reaction.
October 27, 2009 at 9:38 pm
Oh dear. This… was sheer crap.
Perhaps Melina’s wrestling style isn’t suited for live television? I imagine there would need to be extensive training alone to sell most of her innovative offense – and given that Jillian spent the best part of the year jobbing to Kelly Kelly’s repetitive three minute spot choreography, she wasn’t the greatest opponent to pair her with. I like Jillian, really I do, but it’s evident that the jobbing has allocated severe ring rust to her fair level of ability. It would be nice to actually see more of what she can do in the ring. Having said that, if my career had transpired the way Jillian’s has, my love for wrestling would have been diminished too.
Since Hornswoggle’s appeal expired sometime after the disastrous paternity storyline with Vince McMahon, he really has no business in the ring – and I’m sick to the back teeth of watching him involved with the Diva segments. If the WWE really need a fix on their gimmick cravings, then at least shove him over to ECW and have him work with the useless Rosa Mendes. The sad fact is that Melina and Jillian have openly stated their desire to work with each other. I think they could do so much better than this. I agree with what’s been said: give the two ladies their dues, let them have a single’s match with a decent amount of time and watch the sparks fly. Women’s wrestling doesn’t have to be an accessory to the show. I wish the writers would realise this.
October 27, 2009 at 10:12 pm
RKOyou im sorry from what i saw melina went for her finisher and Jillian could eather not hold her and moved forward making her and melina fall forwar, as for last week Melina went for her split finisher and once again Jillian botched it. I think with the way the divas are going on Raw we should have another divas trade Move Michelle McCool, Beth Phonix and Katea Lea Burchill and possibly Mickie James to Raw and Move Jillian and Kelly Kelly and maybe even Melina back to Smackdown that way we can have the girls who actually can work Live TV events w/0 botches wrestle. Michelle shows extreme agression when she enters the ring and even if she botches she can cover it up well, Beth is just an extremelly telented wrestler as is Katea Lea. As for Mickie i think if Beth, Michelle, Katea and Gail were on the same show she would work great with theose divas. Guess i am just real tired of watching crappy diva matches on wwe #1 show
That should be left for ECW.