Comments on: Melina Scores Title of Most Used Diva for 2009 (So Far)

By: Ana_Nattie_rules

Ana_Nattie_rules — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:43:14 +0000

I absolutely agree with PedroPedroso and as someone said in here and like I said in the topic about Kelly’s interview, she’s going to be a second Torrie Wilson. Its a shame that WWE doesn’t push more workers than the usual ones.

By: bethphoenixpurepower

bethphoenixpurepower — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 12:20:30 +0000

rkoyou i totally agree with what you said about some but not beth yes she has had quite a few matches but out of those matches you will be lucky if she has won 20 and she has not been treated right this year jobbing out to guest hosts all that stuff with santino making her look bad and she has only been champion twice which is not a lot where as mickie melina and michelle are constantly getting title shots all the time yes they need to make new stars i agree with that but they other girls they have are not the best skilled and it is goiung to take a few year to get them to that level of being able to carry the womens division i think out of everyone alicia is the brightest but she is not over with the crowd kelly is good but not improving fast maryse has good character but is not a great wrestler the bellas are worthless eve has stopped layla is ok but she is not getting anything in the crowd of talent she is around maria should not even be a wrestler she has not improved one little bit they dont seem to want to push gail or natalya or katie and jillian is just a jobber yet beth proves all the time she is a great worker and can make anyone look good but as far as i am concerned they dont use them right there is room for more than one diva storyline to be going on at once why does everything have to just be about titles why cant you have for instince mickie and michelle going on for the title and make a good long feud with beth and natalya like in a storyline to see who is the best and on raw have maryse and melina and alicia for the title and have gail and kelly in a feid where gail turns heel and say kelly is holding her back they could make the room instead of having to many silly segments with hornswoggle and dx and cena being stupid and instead of putting the guys in long matches that we dont want to see especially cena v show

By: ReyStyle94

ReyStyle94 — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:52:26 +0000

I know this is the wrong topic but this is the only one left that people still comment on.
Did anyone else notice how they mispelled McCool’s name on the titantron during the SS team entrance? Maybe it was just me but I know they wouldn’t mispell HHH or Cena but maybe I’m just looking too deeply into things.

Side note: Did anyone see the beginning of the SS 09 match when Layla taunted Mickie? I thought that was hilarious.

By: Mikas

Mikas — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:13:47 +0000

@The_Eric: The house show matches are usually over 5 minutes, there is no need to rush a house show match like they do on tv. So you cant count that in your stats.

Additionally there are also other activities that you didnt include, like photoshoots, promotional appearances, interviews, backstage segments, those are also part of the ‘job’. And dont forget the mandatory training in the gym several times a week to keep their body into shape.

By: xmelissaa

xmelissaa — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 07:52:39 +0000

I think this just proves why Katie-Lea needs to be put on Smackdown or Raw

By: xxChristinaxx

xxChristinaxx — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 04:30:01 +0000

I don’t really think Gail Kim is a jobber because she have a better record than Maryse and she has a better tag record than McCool.

Melina and Gail have barely lost

By: The_Eric

The_Eric — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:38:17 +0000

given that a typical divas match is 3 minutes long (on a good day), this is how long every diva has actually ‘worked’ this year…

Melina: 95 matches = 285 minutes (4 hours 45 minutes)
Beth Phoenix: 91 matches = 273 minutes (4 hours 33 minutes)
Mickie James: 66 matches = 198 minutes (3 hours 18 minutes)
Michelle McCool: 57 matches = 171 minutes (2 hours 51 minutes)
Maryse: 53 matches = 159 minutes (2 hours 39 minutes)
Gail Kim: 51 matches = 153 minutes (2 hours 33 minutes)
Kelly Kelly: 50 matches = 150 minutes (2 hours 30 minutes)
Natalya Neidhart: 49 matches = 147 minutes (2 hours 27 minutes)
Alicia Fox: 42 matches = 126 minutes (2 hours 6 minutes)
Eve Torres: 39 matches = 117 minutes (1 hours 57 minutes)
Brie Bella: 37 matches = 111 minutes (1 hour 51 minutes)
Nikki Bella: 34 matches = 102 minutes (1 hour 42 minutes)
Layla: 33 matches = 99 minutes (1 hour 39 minutes)
Rosa Mendes: 31 matches = 93 minutes (1 hour 33 minutes)
Jillian Hall: 26 matches =78 minutes (1 hour 18 minutes)
Maria: 23 matches = 69 minutes (1 hour 9 minutes)
Katie Lea: 19 matches = 57 minutes

Considering that a wrestlers job is to wrestle, i think it’s crap that i work more before lunch than they do all year…It seems pretty useless to be on the road all year to only do your job for a few hours (or less than an hour in katie lea’s case)

By: THETommyTommy

THETommyTommy — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:29:10 +0000

I think Kelly Kelly will be more used as a Torrie Wilson always eye-candy never champion. Katie Lea’s year might be next year, I hope.

By: richard bruiser

richard bruiser — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 01:48:09 +0000

Cool stats. Don’t read so much into tag team numbers. Gail gets wins tagging the same way Maria does. She is the partner of Melina, Mickie or whatever face is being put over. Like Maria, Gail never gets the pin. Maryse has an awful tag record making her less than 50 percent overall because she loses tag matches to whatever face us being pushed. Usually her partner loses the fall too. She certainly isn’t used as a jobber like Gail is.
Brie’s wins are all double-switch and other silly stuff she only gets so Beth or Katie Lea can act all pissed off.

By: RKOyou

RKOyou — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:30:39 +0000

It’s time for WWE to start building new stars in the divas division,it can’t always be Michelle,mickie,melina,and Beth taking the spotlight.WWE has done a job of building alicia fox into a serious contender,shes a future champion no doubt,gail kim despite jobbing a lot lately does dish out a win here and there so WWE can anytime pull the trigger on her,Layla is someone that I can’t see winning a title,sorry it just doesn’t fit,kelly kelly who I hate very much I know will get a title reign because WWE loves her,and WWE has a bunch of talented FCW divas who can at anytime make WWE diva fans get back into loving the division

I think it’s time for WWE to start transitioning into the next generation of divas,I hope in 2010 we have a lot of new breakout stars,i can’t take another year of this same old routine

By: RKOyou

RKOyou — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:19:03 +0000

Natayla,Katie lea,and Jillian,who I like to call the ‘Underated 3′ have been totally overlooked in all there tentures in WWE,Natayla gets a win here and there but she never gets pushed and is always a manager first,Jillian who is the only one of the 3 to have actually held either the womens or divas title held her title for 5 minutes and then continued her jobbing career,katie lea…. well WWE has no idea what to do with her,she’s a combination of Jillian and natayla,she’s a jobber and a manager

out of these 3,Natayla is the only one that looks like she has chance of making it big,jillian is sadley a jobber 4 life and katie,well her future is VERY UNCLEAR

By: keyanna22

keyanna22 — Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:18:10 +0000

I couldn’t agree more PedroPedroso17, Layla has truly grown as a in ring competitor. Alicia, Layla, Eve, are WWE’s rising stars IMO.

By: PedroPedroso17

PedroPedroso17 — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:58:31 +0000

Katie Lea, Jillian and Natalya are probably the best characters in WWE, and they’re still at the bottom??

I’m glad WWE started using Layla, she was this close to become a jobber, but she managed to show us some in-ring work that is reminiscent of Ivory and VicTara! I’m really glad that WWE started using her more often, it’s not the winning or losing that counts the most in my agenda, it’s the way the match flows, and of course, the number of matches they have!

A jobber to me isn’t someone that loses matches, it’s someone that’s used to look weak against top divas like Melina and Mickie! Layla had many losses in SmackDown, but they make her look strong and dominant, same with Nattie, everytime they use her, she looks extremely powerful!

This doesn’t happen with Rosa, which is probably good for us viewers, since letting her win a match against anyone would be unfair, but everytime she wrestles, she’s booked to have weak offense and a weak presence in the ring, much like Layla when she was on ECW and RAW.

Jillian and Katie are the most underrated for sure, at least you can see WWE has some respect for Natalya, making her look strong and developing her character, while Jillian is booked to look -silly-!

By: RKOyou

RKOyou — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:37:33 +0000

Katie and Jillian=BIGGEST JOBBERS EVER,even if they combine there scores,they still can’t beat Maria which is a shame

By: theregoeskitty

theregoeskitty — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 23:11:49 +0000

brie is higher then Nikki
even tho people say Nikki is the better wrestler XD

wwe are such a holes
Natalya and Katie at the bottom…… so lame,
it shouldn’t happen that way

By: Goodnightddtmnm

Goodnightddtmnm — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 22:02:08 +0000

Katie Lea 19 matches total in 1 year ?. smh talk about wasted talent is right….

In the start i wondered how Melina got higher than Mickie , but i remebered when Melina first b came champ she was teaming up with kelly kelly alot. She barley had that much single matches on raw besides facing jillian…i think going to smackdown boost up her singled wins…

By: vonVile

vonVile — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:38:14 +0000

I’m surpised Natalya is that high. She’s only had like half dozen TV matches all year. Talk about wasted talent.

By: Mikas

Mikas — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:06:29 +0000

I added the stats of solo/tagteam matches and calculated the win-percentage. That gives a good view on who are the jobbers, and which are WWE’s “favorites”.

Katie Lea: 2 wins out of 19 matches [10.5%]
Jillian Hall: 3 wins out of 26 matches [11.5%]
Layla: 5 wins out of 33 matches [15.2%]
Natalya Neidhart: 8 wins out of 49 matches [16.3%]
Rosa Mendes: 6 wins out 31 matches [19.4%]
Beth Phoenix: 29 wins out of 91 matches [31.9%]
Alicia Fox: 14 wins out of 42 matches [33.3%]
Maryse: 25 wins out of 53 matches [47.2%]
Kelly Kelly: 24 wins out of 50 matches [48.0%]
Michelle McCool: 30 wins out of 57 matches [52.6%]
Nikki Bella: 21 wins out of 34 matches [61.8%]
Mickie James: 45 wins out of 66 matches [68.2%]
Maria: 16 wins out of 23 matches [69.6%]
Melina: 68 wins out of 95 matches [71.6%]
Eve Torres: 28 wins out of 39 matches [71.8%]
Gail Kim: 38 wins out of 51 matches [74.5%]
Brie Bella: 28 wins out of 37 matches [75.7%]

Some interesting things:
1. Katie Lea and Jillian Hall are the biggest jobbers, but we already knew that.

2. Gail Kim almost has the highest win percentage, more than Mickie and Melina. So people who call her a “jobber” just because she lost to Kelly/Alicia are making a fool out of themselves.

3. The faces have more wins than the heels (and its supposed to be like that). The best heel is Michelle McCool.

4. Michelle and Kelly, who are both often accused of being the favorites are only around 50%, well below Gail, Eve, Mickie, Maria and Melina. Although most of their losses are in tagteams.

5. I am clueless why Brie Bella won 3/4 of her matches! Which staffmember in WWE is she dating?

By: Rebecca

Rebecca — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:44:39 +0000

Looking at the top two you can tell the contrast in years they’ve had. Melina winning the women’s and diva’s titles and getting lots of wins, compared to Beth who since losing the womens title last January has only just started being built up again on Smackdown.

I am quite surprised there is such a dip from Melina & Beth down to Mickie and McCool their two nearest rivals. it drops from the 90′s to the 50′s & 60′s. Wow.

By: Mikas

Mikas — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:38:52 +0000

Thats almost 8 matches a month for Melina (with still a month to go), thats insane. Gail and Natalya are around 4 a month, which is a normal amount.

By: Ana_Nattie_rules

Ana_Nattie_rules — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:36:04 +0000

OMG, I only saw the Winning and Loosing thing now and it just made me even more angry. I’m starting to dislike even more who the hell makes this decisions -.-’

By: Ana_Nattie_rules

Ana_Nattie_rules — Wed, 25 Nov 2009 20:31:12 +0000

Looking at the fact that Maria has had more matches than Katie Lea, I just want to say something: WHAT?

WWE is insane, seriously. I mean, nothing against Maria, but her wrestling abilities totally suck (and I think she entered the WWE at the same time as Michelle and she improved almost nothing compared to Mccool or even Kelly Kelly or Eve, who have entered WWE way after her). This is absolutely ridiculous and it makes me really angry. Katie Lea is way more talented than some of the other divas and yet she’s barely used. OUTRAGEOUS.

About Melina, it doesn’t surprise me. She’s talented, a fan favorite and has a great charisma. However Im sure that If we did a study about who gets more promos or backstage scenes, Mccool would be at top, possibly. Anyways, congratulations Melina and Beth, for having more than 90 matches this year. You girls really work hard. And as for Beth…please give her a title shot. She deserves it.