Comments on: SmackDown Redux (December 4th, 2009) – Best Divas Action in Years!

By: TheHartDynasty

TheHartDynasty — Wed, 09 Dec 2009 20:40:15 +0000

Also to see three women who have trained so many years and worked there asses off to make it in this male dominated world and who just didn’t rely on there looks was awome the only other two people who would of made this match extremelly amazing would of been Melina and Gail but there on the Model show called Raw…

By: TheHartDynasty

TheHartDynasty — Wed, 09 Dec 2009 20:37:10 +0000

Better late then never i guess, but anyways i was really happy to see this match happen the interaction at the end and most of all the fans. They were so into it, i was really shocked when Mickie hit that drop kick on Natalya to win, I thought the roof was going to blow on the joint, not an empty seat in the house. There is something very important about Mickie James and her role in the wwe right now, where ever she goes her fans will follow and scream her name, and i think wwe knows that and a great way to bring Maria back much better then Maryse return ehh. Anyways I think Mickie will win the title just because it looks like after TLC there will be a Royal Rumble for the divas title and poss. the following week Maryse will cheat her way into winning Melina title. So team Mickie James all the way!!

By: seasons-of-love

seasons-of-love — Tue, 08 Dec 2009 00:41:52 +0000

Mickie’s promo was nice, but I still don’t get why they’re making such a big deal out of the ‘Piggy’ thing. Honestly, ‘beyond personal’? Really? Surely the fact that most of the audience clearly lusts over Mickie makes that null and void? And look at who it came from! Melina called loads of women fat back when she was heel, and sure, that may have inspired an eating disorder on the part of a certain diva, but they never made a storyline out of it…

Oh, Mickie.

By: shawn

shawn — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 23:57:04 +0000

i say the sd! divas have been on a role. see wwe look at what you get when you ue the more expericened then the less. but i love the less expericende ones too. anway does anybody else see a change of roles between raw and sd!. smackdown always was the show you count on for the sexy divas and girly type matches with no real type of storylines that will grab the fans well except maybe a few. and raw would be the show with storylines and hardcore divas with some good ass matches. now the shoe is on the other foot. well the barbie division is making a change. lol thats what call the division the barbie era. not because of the models. but because they all are so pretty and can do anything they put their minds to. just like hwo barbie was made out to be. so for now on this is known as the barbie era.

By: ianmaurice

ianmaurice — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:19:19 +0000

I don’t personally think it’s the best divas action in years! Don’t get me wrong, this match was great! All three divas delivered perfectly! Loving how Natalya and Beth Phoenix had their intense moment! :)

By: Ed

Ed — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:19:05 +0000

“If the commentators hadn’t said anything, I wouldnt’ve known that she wanted to even the score.”

And if the Smackdown ring announcer hadn’t announced that Mickie/Beth/Nattie were fighting for a title shot you wouldn’t have known why they were wrestling either. See, that goes both ways.

Come on, man. Isn’t it kind of self-explanatory? This is kindergarten-level wrestling psychology. Hamada defeats one half of the tag team champions in a singles match and later faces the woman’s partner. Gosh, I wonder what the partner’s motivation could possibly be….

Do you really need this stuff spelled out for you? Good grief. All you need to do is think for 2 seconds.

One of the things I appreciate about TNA is that they write their show for an older demographic, so they don’t constantly feel the need to explain every little detail that their audience should be perfectly able to figure out for themselves, unlike WWE, who cater to little kids and write the show accordingly.

By: ReyStyle94

ReyStyle94 — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 11:25:45 +0000

If the commentators hadn’t said anything, I wouldnt’ve known that she wanted to even the score.

Side note at WWE Supershow: Mickie James defeated Beth Phoenix. Big pop for Mickie. Jillian tried to sing White Xmas and was stopped. Beth attacked Mickie as the match began. Mickie won with a DDT. The crowd was asleep for most of match. To be honest, nothing much to write home about.

By: Ed

Ed — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 07:33:27 +0000

“Totally disagree ^. That match was just move after move,”

That’s what happens when a match is fast paced. Too bad WWE doesn’t let their talent wrestle like that; they want all of them to work the slow, plodding “WWE style”, which is b-o-r-i-n-g. And regardless, the moves they were pulling out were a lot better than the ones delivered in the Smackdown match, which was pretty basic, IMO.

“I couldn’t even understand why they were having a match, it seemed like just a match that had no meaning.”

Hamada beat Sarita’s partner in a match and Sarita wanted to even the score. This was explained in the commentary.

“I much prefer the SD match to this one.”

You prefer a slow paced, boring match to a fast paced, exciting match? What in the world for? Beth & Nattie getting into a shoving contest followed by Nattie putting Mickie in a rest hold doesn’t excite or interest me. I’m a fan of all 3 women, but come on, let’s pick up the pace here! Sarita & Hamada made the most of the time they were given and packed in a lot of action, but the Smackdown match was 40% stalling.

By: ReyStyle94

ReyStyle94 — Mon, 07 Dec 2009 04:57:14 +0000

Totally disagree ^. That match was just move after move, I couldn’t even understand why they were having a match, it seemed like just a match that had no meaning. I much prefer the SD match to this one.

By: Ed

Ed — Sun, 06 Dec 2009 23:45:20 +0000

Look at Sarita vs. Hamada from iMPACT. They only had about 3 minutes, but they worked their asses off for those 3 minutes. Mickie vs. Beth vs. Nattie never got out of first gear. I don’t think any of them even broke a sweat — that’s the problem I have. Literally half the match was them just standing there, looking at each other. That does not make the match good, it makes the match slow and boring. If you only have 4 minutes to work a match then you damn well better put the pedal to the metal for those 4 minutes, otherwise you’re just wasting time.

By: SereneAndTranquil

SereneAndTranquil — Sun, 06 Dec 2009 18:41:28 +0000

Melanie I agree I’m not a fan of Maria’s work but it was a good return. Personally I think it’s better than Maryse’s.

By: adifferentsame

adifferentsame — Sun, 06 Dec 2009 03:05:05 +0000

Maria’s return was better executed than Maryse’s, but it’s telling that she couldn’t even deck Layla properly. The only positive I can say of her return is that it will add some variety to the Smackdown Diva format with the inevitable tag team matches, but I’m not looking forward to Layla jobbing to her. I’d prefer her progression was rewarded.

By: wwedivamadness

wwedivamadness — Sun, 06 Dec 2009 02:39:33 +0000

Mickie’s shortness bothers me….

By: KiKi

KiKi — Sun, 06 Dec 2009 02:33:31 +0000

Take notes RAW! That’s how things should be done lol.
Seriously though, the match was great!!! There needs to be more ten minute matches with the experienced divas!!
Loved the promo that Mickie did b/c you could feel the passion behind it. LOL @ theregoeskitty, you are right…I think that chair is cursed when McCool sits in it. That slap from Maria made me go ouch. She did alright “cleaning” house, thankfully it wasn’t like the last time. It’ll be nice to see where things go with Beth & Natalya and maybe SD can have two divas feuds at the same time.

By: chrisP

chrisP — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 23:18:20 +0000

I agree with those who’ve said that fake nouse sounds way different than real ones, which is exactly why I believed they were canned, especially when watching it on TV. On an HD television, the difference between Smackdown crowds and Raw/PPV crowds is like night and day.

For some reason, though, nothing was done to the Beth-Natalya confrontation (before the break) as the crowd didn’t react to it, and WWE left it that way. It is worth noting that Mickie’s reaction before the match was definitely real, as you could actually see it, rather than “cheers” coming from people just who are just sitting there doing nothing.

By: Looking Glass

Looking Glass — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 22:19:35 +0000

I really enjoyed the match, namely due to the fact they weren’t shining up Mickie. For once she wasn’t in control of the match and instead focused on building up Natalya and Beth’s strengths and creating tension in a feud everybody wants to see. I was a bit anxious to see Natalya in the Glam Slam, it was something I never thought I’d see, but it did work out well, though Natalya’s place in the match was a bit random, it felt like she was there just so Beth wasn’t put down a notch by Mickie. Grisham’s analysis of how Natalya winning the match could be ‘the biggest win in her career’ was a bit off as well seeing as she qualified to become the first ever Divas Champion, which I think is bigger than winning a title 50 other Divas have held. Loving the ‘Piggie James’ shirts, the speech at the end was a bit OTT, like adifferentsame said Lyla worked really well loved Mickie’s comment about dislodging Layla from Michelle’s backside. Maria’s return was a bit ‘meh’ you couldn’t help but feel that Mickie would be better off fighting ‘Michayla’ on her own than with Maria’s ‘skills’.

By: adifferentsame

adifferentsame — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 20:25:58 +0000

I think the match was cleverly booked, actually. Natalya fell prey to arguably the most powerful woman in the WWE, but yet couldn’t put her away because of the fast thinking underdog. Given the odds Mickie James faced going into the match, the opportunistic victory didn’t detract from her face credibility. The work was present, as was the psychology and most vitally, the narrative progression. As for the post-match promo, Mickie ably handled the mic but the real actress was Layla. I loved the way she and Michelle McCool charged James like demented vultures!

By: TrishMelinaFan

TrishMelinaFan — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 20:25:09 +0000

*three fueds

By: TrishMelinaFan

TrishMelinaFan — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 20:23:24 +0000

Those cheers were not canned.It’s too easy to tell the difference between real ones and fake ones.Besides,the usual fake cheers WWE uses has someone whistle afterwards.For some reason I loved this weeks Smackdown.It all just felt……”right”,ya’ know?Mickie played her part well,but her promo was a little over-dramatic.She still needs to learn not to depend on her usual spots,though.Nattie is nasty!I love it!Even though I knew Mickie was going to lose,I was rooting for her to win!lulz,I love me some Nattie.The tension between Beth and her was priceless!Not to mention that crazy Glamslam on her!I knew Beth was strong,but dayumm!That was hardcore!

Overall,an amzing week for women’s wrestling.We have three guess set up for the future,so let’s see how it all pans out.

By: theamgf89

theamgf89 — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 13:33:02 +0000

That was a great match! It’s been a long time (years as it was mentioned) since I’ve seen a really good Divas match that not only I was into, but the crowd too! If WWE keeps it up (and I truly hope they will), I may start watching regularly again!

By: xmelissaa

xmelissaa — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 11:37:42 +0000

AAAHHH I LOVED IT! Even the crowd seemed to get into it, something that’s pretty rare in Divas matches…
Everything about it kicked ass, the triple threat match itself… Mickie’s promo… Maria’s return. I said before I couldn’t exactly see Maria come out and ‘clean house’, but she came through. The whole thing was so well thought out (or so it came across)…

Beth vs Natalya soon, please WWE?

By: SheamusNoKoibito

SheamusNoKoibito — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 10:17:51 +0000

All I have to say is that they seem to know what to do with Divas on Smackdown.

By: ahlanthony

ahlanthony — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 09:20:05 +0000

this was a good match and a good promo at the end! But I want a new diva on smackdown! Like make serena debut before the year ends!!!!!!!

By: mah

mah — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 08:50:40 +0000

the whole this is really well put-together the match and the return
all three worked really good no botches and maria’s attire was normal :D
and mccool really worked her way so hard i really didnt like this girl at first but now i respect her so much and i enjoy watching her even her acting skills improved

By: MickieJamesFan07

MickieJamesFan07 — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 07:33:28 +0000

@ ebmich- “I think the crowd was just happen it ended. There’s no way in hell they reaction so much during the match.”

There is a video on youtube that a fan recorded of the match. The crowd was very vocal and into it.

By: tonyxh15

tonyxh15 — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 06:35:40 +0000

the staredown between beth & natalya, has me desperately hoping for a feud between these two. if giving the right set-up these two would put on one helluva match. natalya has been a mid-level diva for too long, considering her heritage and her ring abilities.

By: ebmich

ebmich — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 03:06:14 +0000

If I cared for Beth, Mickie or Nattie, I would wonder what was more painful: Mickie screeching in that interview or the fact that someone who just isn’t a good wrestler got more of a reaction than that match. The canned noises were annoying. I think the crowd was just happen it ended. There’s no way in hell they reaction so much during the match.

I thought it was average of a Divas match. Just them doing a bunch of moves and the match just got sloppier as it went on. The spots where they would transition one person to the next (i.e. Beth springboardin’ Mickie just so Nattie can roll her up) didn’t look too good. Like it or not die-hard Nattie fans, that’s not helping the case of “Why the *respected* Diva wrestlers should be pushed” by people who just don’t get it.

I love that Maria is back. She’s tacky and uncoordinated, but she’s a believeable face in tag matches. That was a great slap! I just really don’t know what to think of the irony that Mickie has been called a fat ass for a while now and they stick the skinniest Diva with her? I thought thin people hung out with heavier people to reassure they are thin. Not the other way around.

The more I think about it, the more I am liking the Layla character. She reminds me a lot of those ol’ cartoons with the two dogs. The big dog (Michelle) always walked around with her nose up in the air while the little dog (Layla) would yap away in the shadow of the big dog at the good guy. Which really works well for Layla, since she is tiny and has a great knack for doing little things that make her entertaining to me. I lol’ed at the face she made when Mickie came to the ring.

By: Mace

Mace — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 02:56:25 +0000

It was a good match but I gotta admit I was a little dissapointed..first of all going to an add break sucked =( secondly i felt as if it was watered down quite a bit..i mean imagine what beth and natalya could do without restriction. On the plus side it did tell a good story.

By: Mr.Glamazon

Mr.Glamazon — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 02:44:40 +0000

Wow…what a cool segment tonight. The match was exciting cause I felt all 3 had a chance to win to set up an interesting follow-up (I didn’t read the spoilers), and even though the match wasn’t super high paced it still had some great moments – and if nothing else made us want more from these Divas. As a Beth fan, I was on the edge of my seat during the confrontation with Natalya. I am disappointed Beth lost, but I feel like the Divas are moving in the right direction. I know some wanted Natayla to win, but just being in this match and holding her own is a good sign for her future. I liked how Mickie stole the win b/c it keeps Beth strong and sets up a Beth-Mickie-Michelle triple threat, maybe at the Royal Rumble?

As mentioned on this message board…if you didn’t like that segment then you really aren’t going to like anything the WWE does. I don’t understand the negativety. The girls got a chance to wrestle more than their normal time spot (even a commerical break?!?) and then continue their storylines…a perfect night!

By: Johnyfaction3

Johnyfaction3 — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 02:34:37 +0000

Best match since Bragging Rights or Maybe since NOC. This was awesome althoug I think Beth is stronger than Natalya. This can be a good Fued while Mickie and Michelle are feuding…SD divas are used to have more than one fued at a time. This was incredible in my opinion….They got a good amount of ring time, They got a comercial break which is rare during a divas match! And All 3 can wresltle what else can you ask for! I am kind of glad Maria is back so we dont see the same match every week! The Glamslam was good!

R.I.P Umaga!

By: chrisP

chrisP — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 02:24:56 +0000

Watching this match a second time, this time on TV with a commericial break, completely changed the feel of the match. With the break, it felt like two short matches, and the canned crowd noise was really annoying. For some reason, a lot of these recent Diva pairings that looked great on paper have been big let downs. The match was not bad by any means, just not nearly as good as it sounded.

By: MickieJamesFan07

MickieJamesFan07 — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 01:39:02 +0000

I really liked this match. My three favorite divas in a triple threat match HELL YEAH!!! I enjoyed Mickie’s diving Thez Press to Beth, Natalya’s clothesline to Mickie, and Beth’s Glam Slam to Natalya. The promo was great, really added more to the Mickie/Michelle feud. LOL at Mickie saying she was going to dislodge Layla from Michelle’s butt.

By: mpezza

mpezza — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 01:01:26 +0000

I loved the match! Mickie’s parts were slightly lagging, but overall it was a good match. We seriously need a Beth vs. Natalya 1-on-1 match. :D Also loved the after-match bit. I actually liked Maria’s outfit this week, it’s a shame the awful hair ruined it lol. :/

By: ChrissyL

ChrissyL — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 00:24:41 +0000

Holy crap! That was the best thing I have seen all year long. Totally made these past few months all worth it.

By: Goodnightddtmnm

Goodnightddtmnm — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 00:14:33 +0000

The title of this Redux says it all.

The best divas action in years. I felt this match was great. Even though i would have like to see Beth and Natalya do some more moves to each other. It was so nice to see 3 of the top female wrestlers in the same ring , perfectly sync. The Nattie and Beth stare down was just….perfect i would love to see those two get in a fued together. I rather have Nattie as a face then Beth. I think Natalya would play the face role better in this fued.

I woudnt mind seeing these three in another triple threat match….the end was great too nice to see mickie on da mic. I think she is getting her spark bak. Hell even Maria did good and i never praise her…lol

By: mr_socko

mr_socko — Sat, 05 Dec 2009 00:05:24 +0000

thetommytommy – i don’t think we’ll ever see the dawn of a new era while the wwe continue to give no attention to the character development of the divas. You basically have a load of generic faces who just smile and wave to the audience (e.g melina, kelly kelly, gail kim, eve) and a load of similar heels. none of whom really have any personality. those are not the foundations for entering a successful era. however, at least the last couple of matches have been promising… gotta start somewhere i suppose! :D

By: Robert

Robert — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 23:44:49 +0000

Yes Natayla may be close in size to Beth but has no where near the power the GlamaZon has. I don’t think they’re is really any Diva in the wwe that if Beth gets going can really touch Beth’s skill and Power.Remember Beth has been wrestling since High school.I know Natayla has to but she just doesn’t
have the pure power.And also you can see it in her shoulder’s arm’s traps,her lats underneath herarms, and the fact that she is very solid.YOu can tell by any one of the hundreds of photo’s that Beth is very strong/Natayla doesn’t quite have it in that dept.And how about how Beth just lifts them
in the air and holds them before puttting them on the mat for the pin. Ever her inverted suplex that she holds for over a minute takes muscle.

By: Nerwal

Nerwal — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 23:39:13 +0000

The match was worked in typical WWE-style, with emphasis on storytelling, characters, and patient selling of whatever happens on the ring rather than performing a whole string of technical spots at a quick pace. Well, to each his/her own tastes, both approaches have some merit. The one thing I don’t understand in the booking is Mickie getting the win by pure opportunism. If for instance she had resisted in the sharpshooter for some time, in typical never-give up babyface fashion, she would have got much more credit for this win.

By: mykel1990

mykel1990 — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 23:32:43 +0000

I thought it was a good match between the three divas, I wanna see more of Beth/Natalya in one-on-one matches in the future. I’m glad that the storyline has progressed an am totally excited to see Maria back again! this was one of the best ten minutes I’ve seen of WWE TV in a long time

By: ReyStyle94

ReyStyle94 — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 23:32:00 +0000

How great is Beth? Especially at the GlamSlam bit where she turned slowly so that it wouldn’t seem fake so she could just move out of the way. She has great in-ring presence and I believe she carried that match, with Natalya also doing some of the heavy lifting. I still don’t believe Mickie is in tip top shape, her matches and in-ring movements are noticeably slower.

I would’ve liked to see Nat or Beth pick up the win but with the past few weeks building up McCool vs Mickie, you could see it from a mile away that Mickie would win but still, great Divas action overall for this week.

By: B_Fizzle

B_Fizzle — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 23:22:36 +0000

Nice match this week. I loved seeing Beth and Natalya go toe to toe and I can’t wait to see it happen again someday without any interruptions. I forgot how good of a talker Mickie is but that was a good promo she cut. I literally laughed out loud when she pushed Michelle and she rolled backwards, spread eagle in the chair. I guess its also nice to see Maria is as spastic as ever, for the lulz of course.

By: Garouix

Garouix — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 23:20:09 +0000

The match was good, but I wouldn’t say it was “great.” It was more of a character clash than a really physical match-up. I love all three of these women, especially Natalya, and I hope to see her finally get a push. Oh — and Maria’s back. I’m thrilled…lol.

By: redsoul

redsoul — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 23:05:17 +0000

while Mickie and McCool feud for the title,it would be awesome to see a sub-feud between Beth and Nattie,allowing Beth to finally turn face.

By: THETommyTommy

THETommyTommy — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:44:35 +0000

theregoeskitty – You have a point there! HAHA A new Atomic Drop.

I’m hoping for 2010 to be Natalya’s year.

By: theregoeskitty

theregoeskitty — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:41:02 +0000

another thing i noticed is Michelle has a new signature move, falling back on that chair,
its like the third time now

By: Luis

Luis — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:39:50 +0000

great match all 3 divas did awesome
when Natalya and Beth were standing toe to toe that was just amazing X]
the ending was pretty nicely done too
sucks that Natalya got pinned though “/
that promo by Mickie was pretty good aswell
though Maria isn’t that great in the ring im glad shes back i guess haha
both smackdown and raw were entertaining this week

By: theregoeskitty

theregoeskitty — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:35:31 +0000

really good match (its a shame we didn’t get to see it all thanks to the commercial break)

maria’s return was good, that was a great slap

on a side not those ‘piggie James’ shirts were, crap Michelle’s was even ripped

By: xxChristinaxx

xxChristinaxx — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:32:23 +0000

RAW divas don’t haven anything on Smackdown divas.

By: Nemesis

Nemesis — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:10:12 +0000

That brought back memories of the way it used to be done. It was nice to see Beth and Natalya go at it like that. Mickie was great too.

By: xDynasty

xDynasty — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:06:19 +0000

This is why I watch SmackDown… ‘Nuff said!