Comments on: Lilian Garcia is First Wrestling Personality to Join NOH8 Campaign http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/12/06/lilian-garcia-is-first-wrestling-personality-to-join-noh8-campaign/ Sun, 12 Feb 2012 08:28:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: rodneyclint http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/12/06/lilian-garcia-is-first-wrestling-personality-to-join-noh8-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-30559 rodneyclint Mon, 07 Dec 2009 23:02:08 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=16453#comment-30559 It should be pointed out that a few black Divas have been face, Alicia Fox started out as a face when she was with DJ Gabriel and Layla was a face for a while too. I think, however, both have been more succuessful and believable as heels. Kristal was a face while she was in WWE and she too seemed more comfortable with the heel persona. There really haven't been a lot of black Divas or Knockouts so it's easy to say "they've all been heels" but that's not accurate and it's kind of making an issue out of something that's not really present. The WWE and I'd go so far as to say wrestling in general is obviosuly dominated by men so it's not surprising to me the way they handle things like homosexuality and domestic abuse. It should be pointed out that a few black Divas have been face, Alicia Fox started out as a face when she was with DJ Gabriel and Layla was a face for a while too. I think, however, both have been more succuessful and believable as heels. Kristal was a face while she was in WWE and she too seemed more comfortable with the heel persona. There really haven’t been a lot of black Divas or Knockouts so it’s easy to say “they’ve all been heels” but that’s not accurate and it’s kind of making an issue out of something that’s not really present. The WWE and I’d go so far as to say wrestling in general is obviosuly dominated by men so it’s not surprising to me the way they handle things like homosexuality and domestic abuse.

]]> By: Lee http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/12/06/lilian-garcia-is-first-wrestling-personality-to-join-noh8-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-30537 Lee Mon, 07 Dec 2009 19:28:33 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=16453#comment-30537 @mr_socko but Cody makes such weird faces. @mr_socko but Cody makes such weird faces.

]]> By: mr_socko http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/12/06/lilian-garcia-is-first-wrestling-personality-to-join-noh8-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-30533 mr_socko Mon, 07 Dec 2009 19:00:16 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=16453#comment-30533 @lee - i see your point about the trunks, but i'd rather it were cody rhodes in trunks :P @lee – i see your point about the trunks, but i’d rather it were cody rhodes in trunks :P

]]> By: runnerboy33 http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/12/06/lilian-garcia-is-first-wrestling-personality-to-join-noh8-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-30530 runnerboy33 Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:36:38 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=16453#comment-30530 i soooo wished that i had saw this b4 i voted for michelle for diva of the decade cry cry cry eveybody vote for lillian i soooo wished that i had saw this b4 i voted for michelle for diva of the decade cry cry cry eveybody vote for lillian

]]> By: Lee http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/12/06/lilian-garcia-is-first-wrestling-personality-to-join-noh8-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-30529 Lee Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:21:36 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=16453#comment-30529 What is interesting to me is that a lot of gay wrestling fans I've encountered only watch it for the divas. Homophobe wrestling fans like to complain that John Cena/Randy Orton/insert wrestler here is only popular because the gay guys like seeing them in trunks (its also used as a qay to "insult" that wrestler), but while I would marry Shelton Benjamin anyday and am waiting for the day when he proposes, I dont even watch men's wrestling. I also think we should begin looking for who really tries to address social injustice in the wrestling business. I remember when John Cena first started he apologized to gay fans for homophobic raps, saying they werent his views. Thats a breath of fresh air when you have Chris Jericho using homophobic language at a movie premiere, or when you have WWE dragging Debra through the mud because she spoke out about their top star beating her or when you notice that all the black divas and knockouts are heel (kristal will be shortly). I like that Diva Dirt gives us a place to discuss this, btw. What is interesting to me is that a lot of gay wrestling fans I’ve encountered only watch it for the divas. Homophobe wrestling fans like to complain that John Cena/Randy Orton/insert wrestler here is only popular because the gay guys like seeing them in trunks (its also used as a qay to “insult” that wrestler), but while I would marry Shelton Benjamin anyday and am waiting for the day when he proposes, I dont even watch men’s wrestling.

I also think we should begin looking for who really tries to address social injustice in the wrestling business. I remember when John Cena first started he apologized to gay fans for homophobic raps, saying they werent his views. Thats a breath of fresh air when you have Chris Jericho using homophobic language at a movie premiere, or when you have WWE dragging Debra through the mud because she spoke out about their top star beating her or when you notice that all the black divas and knockouts are heel (kristal will be shortly).

I like that Diva Dirt gives us a place to discuss this, btw.

]]> By: ianmaurice http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/12/06/lilian-garcia-is-first-wrestling-personality-to-join-noh8-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-30527 ianmaurice Mon, 07 Dec 2009 18:16:33 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=16453#comment-30527 She does look like Kelly Kelly! Haha but she looks amazing! She does look like Kelly Kelly! Haha but she looks amazing!

]]> By: stephens61086 http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/12/06/lilian-garcia-is-first-wrestling-personality-to-join-noh8-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-30519 stephens61086 Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:18:59 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=16453#comment-30519 Good For Lillian Doin This, As Another Gay Wrestling I Also Mainly Tune In and Buy PPV's To See The Divas...Although Jack Swagger, The Miz, Dolph Ziggler, Ted Dibiase, Evan Bourne and Todd Grisham (weird i know) are also worth watching WWE for! Good For Lillian Doin This, As Another Gay Wrestling I Also Mainly Tune In and Buy PPV’s To See The Divas…Although Jack Swagger, The Miz, Dolph Ziggler, Ted Dibiase, Evan Bourne and Todd Grisham (weird i know) are also worth watching WWE for!

]]> By: Ana_Nattie_rules http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/12/06/lilian-garcia-is-first-wrestling-personality-to-join-noh8-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-30514 Ana_Nattie_rules Mon, 07 Dec 2009 15:54:56 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=16453#comment-30514 Well, even though I'm straight I have gay and bisexual friends and I know how life can be hard on people with other options (not only different sexual options, but also religious, political, etc). However, Americans are lucky: they're more free than most of the countries (at least in some stats). My country, Portugal, is still very closed minded about this situations. Anyways, I'm reading the comments about the diva male fans being gay. Well, I honestly think that some straight men are fans of them not only for their looks, but most of them probably don't admit it. Anyways, thumbs up to Lilian for supporting this. We're all the same and we all should have the same rights. Well, even though I’m straight I have gay and bisexual friends and I know how life can be hard on people with other options (not only different sexual options, but also religious, political, etc). However, Americans are lucky: they’re more free than most of the countries (at least in some stats). My country, Portugal, is still very closed minded about this situations.

Anyways, I’m reading the comments about the diva male fans being gay. Well, I honestly think that some straight men are fans of them not only for their looks, but most of them probably don’t admit it.

Anyways, thumbs up to Lilian for supporting this. We’re all the same and we all should have the same rights.

]]> By: rodneyclint http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/12/06/lilian-garcia-is-first-wrestling-personality-to-join-noh8-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-30509 rodneyclint Mon, 07 Dec 2009 11:10:27 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=16453#comment-30509 Another gay man here! Woo! Good for Lilian for showing some support, there is such a lack of it in the wrestling world. I wonder what would happen if WWE ever got a gay wrestling personality that wasn't a Backstreet Boys reject, a cheerleader, or an ex-stripper? Like that'll happen. And I have noticed that most guys who like the girls for more than their T&A, are gay. Another gay man here! Woo! Good for Lilian for showing some support, there is such a lack of it in the wrestling world. I wonder what would happen if WWE ever got a gay wrestling personality that wasn’t a Backstreet Boys reject, a cheerleader, or an ex-stripper? Like that’ll happen. And I have noticed that most guys who like the girls for more than their T&A, are gay.

]]> By: mah http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/12/06/lilian-garcia-is-first-wrestling-personality-to-join-noh8-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-30508 mah Mon, 07 Dec 2009 10:28:10 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=16453#comment-30508 and ya agree with Lee...i noticed the same about male divas fans and ya agree with Lee…i noticed the same about male divas fans

]]> By: mah http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/12/06/lilian-garcia-is-first-wrestling-personality-to-join-noh8-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-30507 mah Mon, 07 Dec 2009 10:20:45 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=16453#comment-30507 she really looks like kelly in here!! she really looks like kelly in here!!

]]> By: The Crying Light http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/12/06/lilian-garcia-is-first-wrestling-personality-to-join-noh8-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-30502 The Crying Light Mon, 07 Dec 2009 06:47:39 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=16453#comment-30502 It is wonderful to know that members of the pro-wrestling community getting involved this way. I am by no means generalizing it but, growing up, there has always been an underlying notion (showcased by some fans that I know of) that this kind of entertainment represents unfavorable things like homophobia, chauvinism, etc. This, I think, is a step in the right direction. Perhaps we can make a list of Pro-wrestlers we know supporting this cause or similar causes that are of great importance. That would really benefit the community such advocacies are supporting. I for one, believe that if I was on the neutral side and I find out that Alissa Flash is supporting the matter, I would definitely look in to it and start taking my pick. It is wonderful to know that members of the pro-wrestling community getting involved this way. I am by no means generalizing it but, growing up, there has always been an underlying notion (showcased by some fans that I know of) that this kind of entertainment represents unfavorable things like homophobia, chauvinism, etc. This, I think, is a step in the right direction.

Perhaps we can make a list of Pro-wrestlers we know supporting this cause or similar causes that are of great importance. That would really benefit the community such advocacies are supporting. I for one, believe that if I was on the neutral side and I find out that Alissa Flash is supporting the matter, I would definitely look in to it and start taking my pick.

]]> By: Lee http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/12/06/lilian-garcia-is-first-wrestling-personality-to-join-noh8-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-30501 Lee Mon, 07 Dec 2009 06:24:47 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=16453#comment-30501 Tank is Jillian Hall's fiance....so no? I think you might be thinking of Kanyon. I used various fansites as my documentation. sorry my research isn't more reputable. my "well documented" was a very sarah palin response. look at this thread to find your evidence. Tank is Jillian Hall’s fiance….so no? I think you might be thinking of Kanyon.

I used various fansites as my documentation. sorry my research isn’t more reputable. my “well documented” was a very sarah palin response.

look at this thread to find your evidence.

]]> By: Thomas http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/12/06/lilian-garcia-is-first-wrestling-personality-to-join-noh8-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-30499 Thomas Mon, 07 Dec 2009 04:56:40 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=16453#comment-30499 haha, lee, where did you read that from? it wouldn't be surprising tho. :P i think i read that one of the dicks, i think tank toland or w.e. his name was, got released because he was gay? and although i am a huge fan of chris jericho, i think he has shown numerous times that he is homophobic. but it's nice to see wrestling personalities for the cause instead of against for once. :) haha, lee, where did you read that from? it wouldn’t be surprising tho. :P

i think i read that one of the dicks, i think tank toland or w.e. his name was, got released because he was gay? and although i am a huge fan of chris jericho, i think he has shown numerous times that he is homophobic.

but it’s nice to see wrestling personalities for the cause instead of against for once. :)

]]> By: The Crying Light http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/12/06/lilian-garcia-is-first-wrestling-personality-to-join-noh8-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-30496 The Crying Light Mon, 07 Dec 2009 04:21:27 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=16453#comment-30496 :) Wonderful. :) Wonderful.

]]> By: Lee http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/12/06/lilian-garcia-is-first-wrestling-personality-to-join-noh8-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-30489 Lee Mon, 07 Dec 2009 00:14:36 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=16453#comment-30489 Its been well documented that a large portion of male women's wrestling fans are gay. Its been well documented that a large portion of male women’s wrestling fans are gay.

]]> By: Jamal http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/12/06/lilian-garcia-is-first-wrestling-personality-to-join-noh8-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-30485 Jamal Sun, 06 Dec 2009 23:52:29 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=16453#comment-30485 Very cool to see Lilian take part in this. Also great and a little surprising to see so many fellow gay women's wrestling fans. Niiiiiice. Very cool to see Lilian take part in this. Also great and a little surprising to see so many fellow gay women’s wrestling fans. Niiiiiice.

]]> By: MarBu13 http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/12/06/lilian-garcia-is-first-wrestling-personality-to-join-noh8-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-30482 MarBu13 Sun, 06 Dec 2009 23:31:39 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=16453#comment-30482 Awesome Kong also showed support. It's really a great cause! Awesome Kong also showed support. It’s really a great cause!

]]> By: mr_socko http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/12/06/lilian-garcia-is-first-wrestling-personality-to-join-noh8-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-30481 mr_socko Sun, 06 Dec 2009 23:26:33 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=16453#comment-30481 Lol, meanies... she's an amazing person! I don't think we'll ever see her back on our screens though, so don't worry. I'm not american, but I do hate the republican party. I won't hold it against matt though... Lol, meanies… she’s an amazing person! I don’t think we’ll ever see her back on our screens though, so don’t worry.

I’m not american, but I do hate the republican party. I won’t hold it against matt though…

]]> By: TNAFan80 http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/12/06/lilian-garcia-is-first-wrestling-personality-to-join-noh8-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-30479 TNAFan80 Sun, 06 Dec 2009 23:13:48 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=16453#comment-30479 ;) Sometimes I feel like I could catch a STD by just looking at Ashley. ;) Sometimes I feel like I could catch a STD by just looking at Ashley.

]]> By: Lee http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/12/06/lilian-garcia-is-first-wrestling-personality-to-join-noh8-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-30478 Lee Sun, 06 Dec 2009 23:10:46 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=16453#comment-30478 Matt striker is a republican from queens. As a liberal from queens I must say this is an anomaly and scary. @mr_socko really? Did you see her tattoos? Gross. Matt striker is a republican from queens. As a liberal from queens I must say this is an anomaly and scary.

@mr_socko really? Did you see her tattoos? Gross.

]]> By: mr_socko http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/12/06/lilian-garcia-is-first-wrestling-personality-to-join-noh8-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-30476 mr_socko Sun, 06 Dec 2009 22:57:37 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=16453#comment-30476 It seems everyone on here is gay. I heart matt striker. It seems everyone on here is gay.
I heart matt striker.

]]> By: TNAFan80 http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/12/06/lilian-garcia-is-first-wrestling-personality-to-join-noh8-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-30475 TNAFan80 Sun, 06 Dec 2009 22:54:11 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=16453#comment-30475 As a gay wrestling fan, it's great to see more and more of the wrestling community step up and speak out for the rights of the LGBT community. Along with Lilian Garcia, let’s not forget that TNA Knockout Alissa Flash is very open and vocal of her support/friendship with gay men. Also wanted to note that Matt Striker is very proud of his gay fans, as is independent wrestler Chris Hero who recently attended the National Equality March in Washington back in October to support his best friend. As a gay wrestling fan, it’s great to see more and more of the wrestling community step up and speak out for the rights of the LGBT community. Along with Lilian Garcia, let’s not forget that TNA Knockout Alissa Flash is very open and vocal of her support/friendship with gay men. Also wanted to note that Matt Striker is very proud of his gay fans, as is independent wrestler Chris Hero who recently attended the National Equality March in Washington back in October to support his best friend.

]]> By: mr_socko http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/12/06/lilian-garcia-is-first-wrestling-personality-to-join-noh8-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-30472 mr_socko Sun, 06 Dec 2009 22:28:27 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=16453#comment-30472 by the way, my fave diva is ashley. does that mean we're incompatible? by the way, my fave diva is ashley. does that mean we’re incompatible?

]]> By: mr_socko http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/12/06/lilian-garcia-is-first-wrestling-personality-to-join-noh8-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-30471 mr_socko Sun, 06 Dec 2009 22:28:03 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=16453#comment-30471 could be a first? lol. where r u? could be a first? lol. where r u?

]]> By: Lee http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/12/06/lilian-garcia-is-first-wrestling-personality-to-join-noh8-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-30470 Lee Sun, 06 Dec 2009 22:06:15 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=16453#comment-30470 ha ha @mr_socko diva-dirt romance? ha ha @mr_socko diva-dirt romance?

]]> By: Erin http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/12/06/lilian-garcia-is-first-wrestling-personality-to-join-noh8-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-30468 Erin Sun, 06 Dec 2009 22:05:52 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=16453#comment-30468 It's great to see her supporting such a worthy cause, but the way this campaign Photoshops the white of the celebs' eyes in the photos bugs the ever-loving crap out of me. :P It’s great to see her supporting such a worthy cause, but the way this campaign Photoshops the white of the celebs’ eyes in the photos bugs the ever-loving crap out of me. :P

]]> By: ebmich http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/12/06/lilian-garcia-is-first-wrestling-personality-to-join-noh8-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-30469 ebmich Sun, 06 Dec 2009 22:05:52 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=16453#comment-30469 The WWE should hire whoever Photoshop'd this. The WWE should hire whoever Photoshop’d this.

]]> By: mr_socko http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/12/06/lilian-garcia-is-first-wrestling-personality-to-join-noh8-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-30466 mr_socko Sun, 06 Dec 2009 21:38:48 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=16453#comment-30466 @Lee - we should go on a date. ;) It's so great to see the lovely lillian involved with this! @Lee – we should go on a date. ;)

It’s so great to see the lovely lillian involved with this!

]]> By: xmelissaa http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/12/06/lilian-garcia-is-first-wrestling-personality-to-join-noh8-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-30465 xmelissaa Sun, 06 Dec 2009 20:31:48 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=16453#comment-30465 I wouldn't have thought that was Lilian if it didn't say above. Definitely more Kelly Kelly... Great to see Lilian lend her name to such a great cause. I wouldn’t have thought that was Lilian if it didn’t say above. Definitely more Kelly Kelly…
Great to see Lilian lend her name to such a great cause.

]]> By: MrScotland http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/12/06/lilian-garcia-is-first-wrestling-personality-to-join-noh8-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-30464 MrScotland Sun, 06 Dec 2009 20:31:25 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=16453#comment-30464 Jeez ! I thought that was Kelly Jeez ! I thought that was Kelly

]]> By: Lee http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/12/06/lilian-garcia-is-first-wrestling-personality-to-join-noh8-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-30462 Lee Sun, 06 Dec 2009 20:12:40 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=16453#comment-30462 I've read an interview where Edge and The Hurricane voiced their support too. As has Lance Storm. I’ve read an interview where Edge and The Hurricane voiced their support too. As has Lance Storm.

]]> By: Lee http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/12/06/lilian-garcia-is-first-wrestling-personality-to-join-noh8-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-30461 Lee Sun, 06 Dec 2009 20:11:00 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=16453#comment-30461 As a gay man, I have come to notice that a lot of male Divas fans are gay. Its nice to see a diva supporting her fan base. Dawn Marie and Kelly Kelly have already voice their support. Good to see Lilian taking it to the next level. As a gay man, I have come to notice that a lot of male Divas fans are gay. Its nice to see a diva supporting her fan base. Dawn Marie and Kelly Kelly have already voice their support. Good to see Lilian taking it to the next level.

]]> By: dunk20 http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/12/06/lilian-garcia-is-first-wrestling-personality-to-join-noh8-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-30460 dunk20 Sun, 06 Dec 2009 20:08:46 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=16453#comment-30460 I don't really want to get married, but It's a great cause to see straight people supporting gay people. Thank you Miss Garcia :) I don’t really want to get married, but It’s a great cause to see straight people supporting gay people.

Thank you Miss Garcia :)

]]> By: PedroPedroso17 http://www.diva-dirt.com/2009/12/06/lilian-garcia-is-first-wrestling-personality-to-join-noh8-campaign/comment-page-1/#comment-30459 PedroPedroso17 Sun, 06 Dec 2009 20:05:36 +0000 http://www.diva-dirt.com/?p=16453#comment-30459 I just feel like having sex with her! There :) I just feel like having sex with her! There :)

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