“Your Two Cents” is the new interactive feature where we gauge the opinions of our Twitter and Facebook followers on different discussions in women’s wrestling.
This week, we’re asking this: Bull Nakano’s retirement earlier this week has us wondering: Of those who have left women’s wrestling, who do you miss the most? We’ve read your responses on our social media pages and picked some of the best submissions to highlight here on the website. As always, you can join the debate by leaving your comments!
Our Two Cents
Batting for Team DD this week, it’s Bobby giving us her personal opinion on this week’s topic:
Bobby | I’d have to say the woman I miss most in wrestling would have to be Nidia. She was the first diva I connected with, as random as it sounds, but the segments between she and Jamie Noble are still to this day some of the most hilarious things I have ever seen. She was a good wrestler who only seemed to improve, and I never forget how excited I was the night she won that Contract on a Pole match…only to lose the title shot three seconds later. I always wanted her to come back, but I think she has a family now and lives in Texas, so I just pray she ends up doing a convention in Florida one day so I can meet her!
Your Two Cents
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Josue Guzman | One of the first woman I’ve seen wrestle: Madusa. I think she is one of those people in wrestling, who when you hear her name, you KNOW who she is. Whether it be from her incredible athleticism, multiple championships, International fame, controversial moments or legendary feud with Bull Nakano, there is no doubt she has made an impact in women’s wrestling. Would love to see her in the ring one more time! |
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Michael Kelly | Ivory. She was the mould for the anti-diva, she could talk and in my opinion was one of the best females on the mic ever, she could fight in any type of match & still look good & she shown skill over beauty which makes her iconic. |
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Mondarious Brantley | Michelle McCool. WWE put a lot of work into getting her over with the fans be it as a heel or face. She really gave it her all and made history for herself. Not only that, but she also gave a rub to other Divas like Layla and Alicia Fox. |
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@MxdBoysDoItBest | Out of all the women that don’t wrestle anymore, I definitely miss Molly Holly. Molly Holly was one of the most talented divas in the WWE. She was one of my favorite heels because she played the character well. Her in-ring style stood out from all the other divas because she was a great technical wrestler. Her character stood out as well because she played the “virgin” woman who didn’t exploit her body or show any skin, and I feel her character helped the fans lover her and hate her. Molly could’ve became something big if she had stayed around and if the WWE hadn’t put her on the backburner. She only held the Women’s Championship twice, and she deserved to hold it more times than that. Hopefully one day she’ll come back. Boy, do I like the sound of a Molly vs. Beth Phoenix feud! |
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Nick Gross | Lita. She’s the reason I started watching wrestling again. She’s the one women’s wrestler that as a guy, I could see myself talking to & hanging out with. She had an approachable quality to her that everyone else didn’t have. And the more I learned about her, the more I liked her. She likes the same music as me and is funny & quirky in real life. And I liked that. It’s a shame that the fans caused her to retire early (and her injuries started piling up), she was one in a billion and I personally think that Vince OWES it to her to put her in the Hall of Fame this year. She’s more than earned it. He also owes her a VERY pubic apology for how she was treated at the end of her career. |
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PortuguesePoison P-Cat Negro | Luna Vachon, god bless her soul, I started watching her in the 90′s when I was 3 or 4 and ever since fell in love with women’s wrestling. I really wished she had a run with TNA before she died, it’s a shame she never was Women’s Champion. |
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@sofbomb Lacey. Unlike wrestlers like Trish and Lita, I don’t feel we ever got to see all there is to see from Lacey. I would have loved to see her on TV, or even as a part of the fantastic and always growing North American independent women’s wrestling scene. It would have been great to see her work with some of the newer SHIMMER girls like Jessie McKay and Joshis like Ayumi Kurihara. Imagine potential interactions between her and the Canadian Ninjas or the Knight Dynasty?! And if the news about ROH developing a women’s division comes to fruition, her being a part of it would have been absolutely incredible. Who better to represent the Women of Honor than one of the originals? It’s a shame she left wrestling so early, but I’m happy that she was able to get out of it 100% on her terms. |
And now we turn it over to you…
What are your two cents on the debate? Who do you miss the most? Tell us in the comments…
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Hiren
Yuki Miyazki
I would like Jetta to now wrestle full time
I am going to say Toshie Uematsu when she quits soon
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 12th, 2012 at 6:05 pm
Wesna Busic
I miss McCool & Madusa the most only because both are two of my all-time favorites. I miss Jazz, Molly and Ivory as well but not as much as the other two.
Torrie Wilson and Lita are my all time favourites. I miss them the most.
I miss Ivory and Jacqueline the most those two being two of my favorite attidude era matches and two of my all time favorites. I love watching their old matches on youtube. I would kill for wwe to give them at least 1 more run -_-
Jacqueline & Ivory are two of the best !
Lacey Von Erich & Maria for their outstanding technical ability:-P
art Reply:
January 12th, 2012 at 7:56 pm
LOL
Future Endeavoured Reply:
January 12th, 2012 at 8:11 pm
honourable mention for Ashley Massaro
NaomiNightfan2011 Reply:
January 12th, 2012 at 8:33 pm
You forgot Jenna Morasca
I want McCool, Molly, Jazz, Jillian, Nidia, Melina, and Shaniwua back I want Beth, Nattie, Alicia, Eve, Layla, Kharma, Aj, Tamina, Kaitlyn, Naomi, and Aksana to stay. Put the Bellas, Kelly, and Maxine in Fcw full time. And hire Roxxi, Cheerleader Mellissa, Alpha Female, and Daffney. But knowing wwe we may never have a roster with so much talent in the divas division, with our luck wwe might hire 10 new models who never heard of Wwe and release Nattie, Beth, and Kharma
i miss a lot of ppl but if i have to name some of them that would be maryse. mccool and lita, cuz michelle and lita were just such a good wrestlers and i loved how cold michelle was and i liked that tough chick of lita and than my all time favourite maryse cuz she is hands down the most entertaining diva of all time but i miss a lot of other ppl to like molly holly, stephanie mcmahon, ivory……
Candice Michelle
JILLIAN!!!!!!!!!!!!! :’(
The second week in a row my tweet has been used for “Your Two Cents.” Thanks Diva Dirt:)
You don’t what you got til its gone.
I’m starting to miss Jillian and her singing apparently because before being released she was the only one who got a chance to be on the mic.
Candice Michelle. It sucks that when she came back she didn’t bring back the level of success and I would’ve love to see her as Divas Champion.
Molly Holly. i really wish she could have gotten a big push as a face. true she was a good heel but as a face she was so much better and she could have been big. in fact if jazz hadn’t gotten injured i could have seen molly take over trish’s role as the next face opponent for her. jazz/molly could have been a great feud
Out of retired/wayward women wrestlers I miss these girls the most:
1. Maryse
2. Lacey Von Erich
3. Candice Michelle
4. Ivory
5. Michelle McCool
Maryse was one of the greatest entertainers (of all time) and not just in wrestling but I mean in all of entertainment. Lacey Von Erich was always a lot of fun to watch. Candice Michelle is like a brunette Maryse (albeit, pre-Maryse) and was tough almost as much as she was beautiful. Ivory was always a great competitor and still one of the Top 20 Sexiest Women Wrestlers ever. Michelle McCool was an in-ring sensation and though she was a bit of a boring personality, there’s no doubt that she was an important and revolutionary Diva (apparently the revolution is on hold though) who was pushed to the moon but she excelled with her superior athleticism. Most of all though, I miss Maryse and I hope she ends up coming back to WWE; or better yet, somehow lands with TNA but that’s extremely unlikely to impossible. Sorry about the length of this post but I wanted to explain why I miss these departed Divas (and Knockout) and here;s hoping at least one of them will return to the spotlight eventually…
SHIMMER : Lacey
WWE : Lita
I miss Melina, Lita & Molly Holly!
torrie,lita,molly & ivory are the divas i miss the most….
Jillian Hall and Lita.
I miss Trish and Michelle Mccool. both should come back. Roxxi should return to TNA.
I miss Ivory and Tori!!!
Melina, Lita, Trish Stratus, Dawn-Marie, Molly Holly, Jacqueline
torrie wilson candice maria courtney taylor angela fong melina tiffaney
I miss Wesna Busic & Lacey the most. Wesna, was an absolute beast in the ring & basically Europe’s Cheerleader Melissa. I dearly miss her striking ability & those brutal kicks. A shame she had to retire right when girls like Hamada, Ayumi, Hiroyo, & Tomoka had arrived in Shimmer. Matches between her & Sara Del Rey, Hailey Hatred, etc. sound amazing.
Lacey, was easily one of the best heels in wrestling. Amazing, she just understood how to get the right kind of heat. Just an incredible heel & wrestler. One of the most missed women in wrestling, love her (& if it wasn’t painfull clear already) & dearly miss her! <3
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 12th, 2012 at 9:21 pm
I like how you picked Wesna Busic. We should start a campaign to get her back to wrestling. There are a lot of women who return after being injured and I’m sure she can haha. I heard she got married or something like that so I’m not sure.
Jhonmarco Reply:
January 12th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Haha :) from what I heard she retired due to nagging injuries. Considering her wrestling style & how she never took a break, it’s no shock. Sadly, I don’t Busic returning :(
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 12th, 2012 at 10:59 pm
Well I knew she was gone because of injuries but I had heard that she got married and that’s always a factor in wrestlers returning. She might be at full health now so who knows, maybe she just needs to know that some people want to see her back.
Jhonmarco Reply:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:29 pm
I’m sure she knows people like’d to se her back. She’s gotten over greatly in her career, if it’s in Shimmer or GSW (home promotion) the crowd tells her how much they love her, I miss her lethal big boots though! :/
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:36 pm
Well if Blue Nikita is on Twitter, or if not then Jenny Sjodin who is, someone should ask one of them to ask Wesna for an update. Maybe hear what she has been doing and if she wants to return as well.
Bull Nakano and Madusa were my favorite female wrestlers and I actually stopped watching women’s wrestling until Lita came in and she amazed me with those high flying moves that I never seen a “diva” do on tv. Then Trish came a month later and I loved her personality as a heel. So I miss Bull, Lita, Madusa and Trish Stratus.
I miss the superstar characters… What makes Eve different from Kelly Kelly? What makes Alica Fox different from Krystal? But I miss women like Debra, Ivory, Jackie Hass, Dawn Marie, Sable, Terri Runnels and Chyna. The girls of today with exception with Beth, Victoria, Vickie, Mickie James, has no charisma at all. Nobody gets Pops like Debra, Sable and Chyna,,,, why cause we do not have any superstars…. It is not all the divas fault but the writing and time given suks… They need to pair up divas with wrestlers. Most of the best females were valets/wrestlers.. Women dont have to wrestle 10 minute matches to be interesting but sometime they are better at creating Havoc outside like Vickie.
Arisa Nakajima.
She quickly became my favorite after showcasing her matches with Azumi Hyuga, and then she retired at such an early age and time at her career. Her and Ayumi Kurihara were basically the “it” girls when it came to their rising star quality (Kana aswell, but a lot more subtly), and I really wish to see her again in the future.
I also miss Hiren, another girl with a lot of potential, especially with her training from being a Sendai girl and being taken under Mayumi Ozaki. However, injuries at a young age stop another Joshi star in the making.
Mikas Reply:
January 13th, 2012 at 2:45 am
Then there is good news for you, Arisa is coming back. I think she announced her comeback at JWP’s last big show (december). That would be good news for JWP, after they lost Yoneyama recently.
Victoria- as great as Tara is, I miss having her in WWE. She’s one of the best at making her opponents look good (often better than they really are) and can be a top contender when needed. I really wanted to see her as a manager in WWE when her in-ring career was done.
Molly Holly- another lady who was a reliable hand in the ring, and not afraid to make her opponent look better than herself. We need more more Molly’s in the divas division.
Candice Michelle- a personal one. Candice was one of those divas I connected with; I loved watching her improvements week in, week out and her energy was infectious. She had more to give when she got released, and the Smackdown division looked really strong when she was drafted over. She would have fit in the Mickie/LayCool storyline perfectly.
Trish and Lita- I think every diva fan misses them to an extent, no?
Sable- this is a retrospective one, as I would have loved if more had been done with Sable during her second run. She started off with a bang with the Torrie storyline and kept that pace with the McMahon’s storyline, but then fizzled out. I would have loved to see her move over to RAW and feud with Trish (not necessarily wrestle, she could have managed another diva to wrestle for her). The two biggest blonde bombshells in wrestling history going head to head? I can’t believe they missed that chance.
natalyagailfan2011 Reply:
January 13th, 2012 at 12:23 am
I know right. I would love to see heel Trish vs a heel Sable. WWE was stupid back then not to have them in a feud/storyline with each other.
Lita
Trish
McCool
Maryse ( I miss her ring attires as well )
Kiyoko Inoue ( hope I spelled it right )
Jazz
Ivory
Taylor Wilde
Melina
Candice Michelle
Molly Holly
Daffney
LayTorres Reply:
January 12th, 2012 at 11:58 pm
Add Bertha Faye, Madusa, and the aforementioned Bull Nakano
cutymania Reply:
January 14th, 2012 at 12:24 am
Kyoko* Inoue is still wrestling… lol
I miss Trish, Lita, Sable, Chyna, Tori, Candice Michelle, and Michelle McCool. I also miss Tiffany. We never got see her full potential.
Lita is definitely the diva I miss the most…
1st – chyna
2nd – ivory
3rd – sable or debra
The 3 people i miss the most:
Mainsteam: Molly Holly, best worker since Madusa
Indies: Lacey, probably the best heel of the past decades, and that include the indies.
Japan: Azumi Hyuga, she was the highlight of Joshi when the big 3 (AJW/Arsion/Gaea) all disappeared.
Candice. I just really feel WWE dropped the ball with her. She had one bad match when she returned from injury and they basically gave up on her. I really feel like she could’ve done so much more. She worked so hard to become a better wrestler, she was getting over and getting people behind her and then instead of following up with that when she came back from injury, they let her fade away. I remember them doing NOTHING with her feud with beth when she returned and she was very over in their 2008 No Mercy match. So there was still interest in her with fans.
I still wish we could’ve seen how her SD run would have gone. I think she and Melina begin a team against Alicia and Michelle (eventually Layla and Michelle) would have been a great start to get her back on track. Have her manage Melina against Michelle, etc and slowly build her back up to a title feud. Then eventually having her feud with Michelle over the title and having Layla/Michelle mock how her career was going at the time would have been perfect. Then have her win the title and show them she hadn’t lost “it” would have been a really nice moment and much better than having them mock Mickie over her weight, which fans didn’t buy to begin with.
Lita. For me I just zeroed in on her when I was a young teen girl. I never paid attention to any of the women until her. She looked so different and all the things she did in the ring were new to me. When she went up against the guys and they would do a move on her I wanted to go kick their ass. Then when I read Amy’s book I connected to her as a person off camera. She was really a role model for a girl who had no one to look up to. If I ever met her I think the most important thing I could say would be thank you. Thank you for letting me know it’s ok to be different,to stand up for what you believe and never back down to anyone.
I still haven’t watched her last match and I never will. For me her last match was with Trish on her retirement. Some say she was a heel she should have gone out that way I’ll never agree to that. Knowing her mother was in the ground hearing all these vile chants directly at her daughter personally I just can’t imagine that. To be honest I miss all the attitude era girls Lita,Trish,Ivory,Jazz,Molly,Victoria. They were all different and they stuck together to fight for a better division.
The K@rmic HeeL Reply:
January 15th, 2012 at 9:39 am
This is an interesting read. I like that some of the girl fans Lita talked about in her book are right here. Lita was definitely one of a kind. She will never be imitated quite like the way Trish is often compared to Kelly, Eve, etc…
Lita stands all alone at the top as the best ever and she is very dearly missed.
That said, I miss all the attitude divas too. Lita probably the most. And I never got to see Madusa wrestle on TV until youtube, so I wish she was around again. She was an incredible talent. Molly was the only other diva that matched her somewhat in technical skills. Molly was hands down the best from her generation. Not Lita, not Trish, not even Jackie or Ivory in that regard. Molly was superior. Though I can say Jackie was superior in aggressiveness, Ivory on the mic, etc… lol. I miss them all so badly!
The K@rmic HeeL Reply:
January 15th, 2012 at 9:45 am
BTW, I forgot to mention I miss Stacy Keibler and I really enjoyed Nidia and Jazz, Luna, Dawn Marie, Miss Jackie, Torrie Wilson, Terri Poch, Victoria, Debra, Terri, and I seen Sensational Sherri Martel on youtube! Awesome Divas. REAL FREAKIN DIVAS OF WRESTLING.
I even miss the old duo Moolah and Mae together.
CHYNA! She was awesome as a character and okay as a wrestler. Ahh, memories.
i miss melina, i’m really gonna miss her she was my favourite for so long six years wasn’t it six years getting to know a girl going on the emotional rollercaoster of her career i was on it with her. weather it be good or bad i will always love melina and i hope she has the greatest time when she wrestles now because my six year rollercaoster is still rolling down the tracks, thankyou melina you truly gave everything for us and i will love and respect you forever for it, you were one of the reasons why i loved wrestling and i’ve been dreading the day my rollercoaster ends but untill then i will enjoy the ride and i hope you will too.
I would have to say Lita, Molly, Ivory, and Tori.
Lita because she was a one time diva.. I don’t think WWE will ever have another diva that will match up to Lita and what she brought to the table. She reminds me of Tara as far as how genuine she comes off. They both remind me of ladies who if you approached them they would be incredibly nice to you. Lita embodied a lot of that in her career in WWE and unlike a lot of people I really liked her just as much but in a different way when she was heel with Edge, I was always a fan of hers regardless of what she was doing when she wasn’t at work which btw is none of our business and should NEVER have been a storyline.
Molly is an obvious one because she was fun to watch. She knew what she was doing in the ring and I don’t believe I’ve ever seen her botch anything. The woman shaved her head for our entertainment, you gotta give it up for her.
Ivory because she was just such a loud mouth that I loved her for it. Whenever Ivory had a mic you knew she was going to say something that’d make you laugh or she was going to get over by saying whatever she had to say. Best diva on the mic as some other folks above have said, I totally agree.
Lastly is Tori.. I don’t really feel Tori ever got the credit she deserved in the WWE. She should’ve at least been women’s champion ONCE. This is the woman who was Sable’s stalker, harassed by DX, teamed with Kane, then teamed with DX and put Bubba through tables. She helped Stephanie McMahon WIN the title and keep it. I loved her involvment in DX, and I really reallllllllllyyyy wanted her to turn on Stephanie and take the women’s title from her. Plus her finisher is my top diva finisher right next to Tara’s widow’s peak. Tori is one of those diva’s who also came off as kind of quiet but a really friendly individual.