TNA has officially removed Jackie Moore and Toxxin from its online roster page.
Veteran WWE and TNA star Jackie revealed last year that her contract was set to expire, and that she didn’t expect it to be renewed as she hadn’t heard from TNA. Prior to her departure, Jackie hadn’t been used on TV for some months.
Meanwhile, Toxxin, better known as Christina Von Eerie, hasn’t been seen in recent months either. Her real life boyfriend, Jesse Neal, left TNA last year, so it looks as though TNA has parted ways with both Neal and Von Eerie. Neal recently stated that Christina was not under a contract and didn’t know if TNA had any future plans for her.
Toxxin debuted in October prior to the Bound for Glory pay per view and made a few appearances before disappearing from television. Jackie returned with ODB last summer as outsiders in a feud with Velvet Sky. The pair were placed in a storyline where they tried to earn contracts to become full-fledged Knockouts once again. They succeeded, but ironically, Jackie wasn’t seen on TV again after ‘earning her contract’.
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at 9:07 pm
i dont see a loss for tna if they didnt use them. its not a shocker to me so its w.e
but i woudlve liked to see them wrestle at least . but oh well
toxxin ive never seen wrestle so it woudlve been nice
at 9:11 pm
Man this is some baby back Bull! Jacqueline one of my all time favorite diba/knockout of all time. I love that women , and Im saddened to see tha her two runs with TNA were thrash. I was xcited when Jackie returned because I said Yes we get to see Mickie James vs Jacqueline & Tara vs Jaqueline TNA style. We got niether , needless to say other knockouts I would want to see her face off with.
When knockouts/divas like Jacqueline are underrated it makes me wonder how would wwe/tna be without a Mickie James , Trish Stratus , Lita , Gail Kim , Angelina Love , Beth Pheonix , Michelle McCool. But we’d never know maybe more divas/knockouts would have been used more like Jazz , Roxxi , Sarita , Ivory , Molly Holly , Alissa Flash , Hamada !
When you look at it one company may have a better division than the other company but there is one thing both companies have in common the most talented are hardly used. And that is really sad…
mariah. Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 9:54 pm
I agree with all of this, especially your last statement. It really is sad.
Crazy_J Reply:
January 18th, 2012 at 6:04 am
I don’t find that last part to be true when it comes to tna.. if I can remember correctly, Velvet is the only KO that has held the belt that people have complained not being skilled enough to be champ. I think Gail, Angelina, Tara, Mickie, Madison, Winter, ODB, Kong, Taylor, etc are all very talented, and also all former KO champs. As for Jackie goes.. I always liked her but if you’ve ever heard other women that have wrestled talk about her in the ring, they all say she is very very stiff which is probably cause for her not getting much in ring time in WWE after her PMS thing died, and why tna never really used her much.
Crazy_J Reply:
January 18th, 2012 at 6:10 am
I think I misunderstood what you meant tho haha, but I get what you are saying some what, BUT I still feel all of their champs have been fun to watch and good in the ring. The thing is star quality.. Jackie seems to come from a day when that really didnt matter. Maybe its a matter of push or some people just simply can’t get over or heat with a crowd because the crowd doesn’t care for them. *shrugs*
at 9:16 pm
SMH. It goes to show you that you have to either be the diva type or be ex WWE and young. TNA doesn’t give a damn about wrestling. Things like they don’t like Sara Del Rey’s look, well hey, guess what, I think she’s the second hottest woman and the second best woman in wrestling, and I would rather have her on my TV than most of the knockouts. Women like Sarita, Winter, Christina von Eerie, those are the women that I want to see along with women like Ayako Hamada, Blue Nikita, Jessicka Havok, Sara Del Rey. The sad state of their roster plus the fact that they call their women “Knockouts” makes them no better than WWE.
Joel Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
What’s wrong with Mickie James, Gail Kim, Madison Rayne, Sarita, ODB, Winter, Angelina Love and Tara? They are all pretty damn good wrestlers with a lot of experience. To be honest, Velvet can’t be put in with them but she’s still decent and cool to watch and has a good character/personality. Rosita we haven’t seen enough of but what she has done seems great.
I don’t see what there is to complain about. The roster is already full of great women… What the hell is wrong with the word ‘Knockouts’?
Sara Del Rey wants to go to WWE.
Havok probably wants to stay on the indy scene, same with Blue Nikita.
Hamada most probably wants to spend MORE time in Japan.
Let’s be honest, has anyone cared that Christinia and Jackie haven’t been on TV the past couple of months… Not really.
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 9:58 pm
Like I said, I like Sarita and Winter, but the others are just sloppy and boring.
Sara del Rey I know wants to go WWE, I’m just saying I would rather see her used on TV properly
Jessicka Havok said she wants to go to WWE.
Blue Nikita I know wants to stay on the indys but hey a woman can dream.
Ayako Hamada I’m sure wants to spend her time in Japan but I think she is the best women’s wrestler in the world so I want her on TV.
Those women were just examples.
They fans haven’t cared because TNA hasn’t made then care, which they could haha.
LadyGoDiva Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 9:51 pm
the Knockouts divison has really chanced and even thought several women are former WWE divas and women’s champions they’re used differently then they were in WWE. With the KO’s division didn’t really cared about looks like WWE does they care about wrestling something you NEVER see WWE do with their women’s division.
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:00 pm
It’s better than the divas but still not great. They still have lingerie type matches. they still call them knockouts, they still have average at best or sloppy women in the ring for the most part.
French.One Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:04 pm
I’m not an advanced TNA viewer, but from what I watch, TNA is a little about look too.
I still haven’t figure why Angelina, Velvet, Winter, Brooke are in the division.
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:06 pm
Winter is a good wrestler but the others I agree
I want to see wrestlers, not sluts
mariah. Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
I agree. TNA is about looks too.
mariah. Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
Just not to the extent of WWE.
Joel Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:12 pm
TheJoshiFanX is just rude. I’m not sure he/she knows the meaning of the word slut.
Angelina is a pretty decent wrestler and let’s be honest, 3 of the 4 you mentioned aren’t used. Winter is decent but I think she’s slightly over-hyped because of that ladder match with Beth. Brooke is improving and so is Velvet.
FFS, they did 1 lingerie match and it was part of a story line!!!
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:14 pm
Oh so because it was part of a storyline it makes it fine? It’s degrading and a step backwards for female wrestling.
Sluts = women who objectify themselves, shake their bodies, do provocative photoshoots, do lingerie matches
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:16 pm
It’s she ;)
mariah. Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:10 pm
I won’t deny wrestling is very important to TNA when it comes to their Knockouts, but to say they don’t care about looks is being completely naive. They are guilty too when it comes to looks in the women’s division, but it is ignored because they give their girls time, unlike WWE. Every Knockout on the roster is stereo-typically good looking, with fake boobs, hair and all. I could tell you now with confidence, if they had to choose between someone like Mercedes Martinez and someone like Angelina Love, they would choose Angelina no hesitation.
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:13 pm
Yeah to me I think women’s wrestling divisons should have a mix of hot women who can wrestle and women who can just wrestler.
By the way, I would take Blue Nikita, Hiroyo Matsumoto, Jessicka Havok, or Sara del Rey over any of the WWE divas or TNA knockouts let’s put it that way.
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
wrestle*
Joel Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:19 pm
THEJOSHIFANX stop contradicting yourself. If you are looking for a mixture of ‘hot women who can (kind of) wrestle’ and women wrestlers then TNA is perfect.
Angelina is pretty decent and looks ‘hot’
Brooke is improving, everyone starts somewhere and it’s not like she wrestled prior to TNA (WWE didn’t do much with her)
Basically all the women in TNA look good and a few are stand out talents in the ring so don’t complain.
A.E Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
i don’t wanna get in middle of an argument but yeah tna cares about the look but not completely if tna cares completely about the look someone like odb someone talented not have the plastic look would been fired long time ago
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:24 pm
They can’t wrestle though so I don’t give a damn and am not contradicting myself
Joel Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
But they can, you’re just being awkward. Angelina has put on some great matches.
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL great matches? Maybe if she was carried.
WWEStarInTraining Reply:
January 18th, 2012 at 6:15 am
I agree, although tna seems to be about looks now when it comes to their KO’s, there is no denying that they can all put up a hell of a show, I,mean as long as they dont become wwe and give them two minutes and no stories im fine
Blowbangfan Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
I agre with THEJOSHIFAN about TNA should have kept Christina Von Eerie as she had a unique look and could have been very interesting for storyline development and feuds but generally I agree that TNA knows what they’re doing with their women and are clearly the superior mainstream promotion when it comes to women wrestling…
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:30 pm
Yeah, TNA is better than WWE but it’s like saying that a broken foot is better than a broken leg. It’s still not good.
Jhonmarco Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
thejoshifanx, exactly! Don’t get me wrong TNA’s women blows the divas away, but they still need to improve by a lot.
Joel Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:35 pm
It’s your opinion that TNA is bad. Not everyone can dish out cash to buy Shimmer/WSU/EVE/Joshi so TNA is the best they can watch.
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:38 pm
No, it’s the truth
Yes, I know, I’m on the lower end of the income bracket, but I watch all the free matches I can online, I watch DVDs with friends, and I have gotten torrents online (even though I will pay the companies back when I have money). You find ways.
There’s joshi on YouTube and DailyMotion BTW :)
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
I wish they would let me take control of their division >:)
Joel Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
Well here in the UK I did a power point presentation about Joshi for an English project and when I said ‘Japanese wrestling’ EVERY person assumed it was Sumo wrestling. That’s how big the market is here! I can’t really watch it with friends. Torrenting wrestling is just wrong, especially when it’s Shimmer/WSU that make money to pay the wrestlers off DVD sales… that’s just really wrong. I upload Joshi on YouTube now and then… Let’s be real, people don’t understand it and wont watch it because some people like the storylines and talk.
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:52 pm
Well if you don’t have money you have to make do. I can’t afford wrestling shows except for the occasional one, but I’m giving the money back once I have a better paying job.
MomoMufFinSsFTW Reply:
January 18th, 2012 at 12:49 am
Heres how i see it. the current knockout division. i love the roster idc if tna has past wwe divas or models because..hey you are still going to watch it Lol It just matters how good they are like brooke shes improved so much and shes a model.is she great? hell fkin no but shes decent.Winter i love her uniqueness and shes pretty decent too.Angelina gurrl shes great but she needs meat on her bones <.<. About the lingerie matches..well i personally enjoy theme matches. aslong as tna doesn't have the K.O.s in bikini's,bras,etc. every week and gives them time in those types of matches then idc because i'm still going to watch..and sluts aren't girls aren't girls who do lingerie matches..tna books the matches =/. but i do agree i want some more wrestlers in tna
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 18th, 2012 at 12:58 am
I don’t watch the WWE and TNA women’s divisions actually.
Lingerie matches are sexist and demeaning, and I don’t like them, and they have no place on wrestling show.
The women could say no by the way, they didn’t have to agree to anything that they do. The matches, the photoshoots, all of it. Their choice. Therefore it makes them slut like haha.
MomoMufFinSsFTW Reply:
January 18th, 2012 at 2:14 am
i see your point 100% but if i was a diva/knockout i wouldn’t say no..well at least not directly because #1 i don’t want to lose my job and #2 i want my $$$ xD! So i wouldn’t call them sluts for not trying to anger tna management.but i do see your point on it being sexist but i still would love to see variety instead of the usual 1v1 or tag matches. i mean they could have maybe Movie based matches? that would be fun! :P
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 18th, 2012 at 2:55 am
Singles, tag team, triple threat, four way, tables, ladders, TLC, submission
There’s variety. I would rather see variety of women and storylines than matches haha.
Crazy_J Reply:
January 18th, 2012 at 6:22 am
In some countries online piracy isnt illegal.. and btw I was just watching cnn earlier today and they talked about trying to ban online piracy but also noted that if they did somehow do that.. that it would greatly effect use of the internet and use of computers.. which would mean not as many paying for inet or computers.. its like a scale, you take away and you lose on the other side no matter what.
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 18th, 2012 at 6:28 am
Yeah I don’t like piracy but I don’t have a lot of money at this moment but would still like to be able to watch wrestling, which is my passion. I plan on giving the companies the money back once I have a better job.
The law that’s being passed is dumb and is just there so entertainment people give money to the politicians. It takes away more than it does good. Haha.
at 9:27 pm
Is it weird that I can see christina von eerie in wwe? Idk I have a strange feeling it might happen lol
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:05 pm
No, WWE doesn’t care for wrestlers unless they look somewhat like a diva
Blowbangfan Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:37 pm
I hope you’re right DIVAFANDOM. I would love to see her in the WWE and hopefully they will pick her up to show that they’re not just all about model wrestlers. I don’t agree that they are since they have AJ and Kharma on board but obviously WWE’s first priority is beauty. Which I don’t understand since they push Kaitlyn aside when she should be the one they push the most…
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:41 pm
Well Kaitlyn needs proper wrestling training first. I think she should go to Japan to train so they can show a woman of her size how to wrestle well.
at 9:29 pm
Sad, from reading Jackie’s twitter, she was really disappointed in them not using her.
Marshy Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 11:32 pm
Jackie could have been a Knockout Champion instead of managing Beer Money,when she came back that she could have went after Knockout Championship title,it sort of like sex and age discrimination to me,That is okay for guys like Sting,Kevin Nash(when Kevin was in TNA),Scott Steiner,Jeff Jarrett,and Kurt Angle can go after titles but Jackie can’t,all the Knockouts who are under Jackie’s age can go after the Knockout title but Jackie has to be a manager of Beer Money and be partner in crime with ODB.
at 9:33 pm
I expected Jackie and completely forgot about Christina.
at 9:33 pm
I’m dissapointed FOR Jackie, TNA could have been a huge break for her if they used her properly.
But no, URGHESUKLHWLS.JHYRS
Joel Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 9:47 pm
She’s nearing 50, I know women in wrestling can go a long time but the company doesn’t even let most male wrestles stay around that long + we know that mainstream women’s wrestling will always have some kind of bias towards aging with women.
I can’t imagine what TNA could’ve done with Jackie Moore other than make her VP or something.
Marshy Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 11:35 pm
She could took the job with The Knockouts before Karen Jarrett has taken the position.
at 9:40 pm
thank god,,saw this on fb and thought Sarita and Rosita, seeing as i thought these two were already gone!
Joel Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 9:44 pm
I thought it was Sarita and someone. Rather Rosita, Angelina or maybe Winter. Thankfully it’s none of them.
Mikas Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:08 pm
Sarita and Winter will probably be next. Winter only had 6 bookings for TNA in 10 weeks time, which she all lost and she wasnt even on the UK tour. And Sarita only had 3 matches in TNA in 5 months time. That clearly shows that they are at the bottom of TNA’s priority list.
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:11 pm
Sarita and Winter are the only women in TNA that I care about so if they leave then I lose interest in the company.
I wish TNA would have a WOMEN’S WRESTLING division with actual talented women. Sigh.
Joel Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:15 pm
Once again, how could you not consider Gail, Mickie, Madison Rayne (Shimmer), Tara and ODB as wrestlers?
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:17 pm
Even though I think they are boring as hell they’re sloppy nowadays
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:18 pm
Not to mention, they call them knockouts. They can’t even call them wrestlers. Sad. Haha.
Joel Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:20 pm
No it’s not ‘sad’ it’s called branding. It’s a business division.
Joel Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:21 pm
*decision
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:26 pm
Yeah, like I said, TNA could have women who can wrestle that are “hot” to most people.
Take Jessie McKay for example, why not have her on TV? She’s pretty decent in the ring and is “hot” to most people.
Blue Nikita is “hot”.
TNA could do that but they don’t give a damn.”
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:27 pm
damn.*
Joel Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:31 pm
I’m not sure how TNA books tryout matches but maybe the wrestlers need to show interest first… Maybe none of the indy wrestlers you speak of have asked TNA.
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
Well maybe they have but TNA hasn’t showed interest.
Leva Bates tried out
Sara del Rey tried out
TNA clearly has an eye for “model type” women, not wrestlers for the most part
Joel Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:39 pm
Well I’d consider SDR hotter than a few TNA women so it could’ve been something else about her they didn’t like. Maybe she wanted a larger paycheck, or couldn’t fit into story lines or her style of wrestling wasn’t what they were looking for. As for Bates, she’s an attractive woman so I doubt it’s to do with her looks. There’s more to judge a wrestler on than looks and wrestling.
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:44 pm
Well if a company can’t fit SDR’s style into their product there is something wrong with them and/or their wrestlers
Sure she doesn’t have mic skills but she can either be a monster character or have a manager.
Well she wouldn’t have tried out for TNA if she didn’t want them. Plus now with Claudio in WWE I’m sure she has enough money.
Joel Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:47 pm
And you would know this because? Have you you ever owned a wrestling company that needs to make decisions that could make or lose them money? I don’t think so.
We can’t imagine what it is like to be in TNA’s decision so we can’t question who they sign and who they don’t sign because in most cases there’s a valid reason.
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:49 pm
No, but I want to become a wrestler and own my own promotion someday, so maybe you will see me do that
Joel Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:57 pm
If/When you do own this promotion or become a wrestler I hope it goes well. Just refrain from calling your co-workers sluts and it will all go well.
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 11:06 pm
Well I want to be a heel so if there is a woman that I feel fits that label I have to ;) I need an indy elitist gimmick :D
Thank you though haha
at 9:47 pm
I really thought that Toxxin had a chance in TNA but sadly it seems not but hopefully she’ll be fine.
Sucks how Jackie was treated in TNA she was rarely used.
at 9:57 pm
i am not so suprised about christina because of the situation with her boyfriend but jackie quit disappointed tna blow big chance to utilize her but i am not surprised about her release either she was barely used
at 10:08 pm
I don’t understand why TNA brings people in only to not use them at all. It’s such a huge waste of money, time, and energy for everyone.
Joel Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:23 pm
This I agree with. They can’t afford to lose money when they are trying to compete with WWE.
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:29 pm
Yes, I think they should let Sarita go back to Mexico and let Winter go back to the indys where they are more appreciated
at 10:21 pm
I already knew about Jackie, but I’m happy for Von Eerie, now she can do her thing in Shimmer. :) let’s be honest, TNA probably would’ve misused her like Daffney, Sarita, Melissa, etc. Like someone said earlier in this post TNA is about wrestling, but they’d choose someone like Angelina or Velvet over Del Rey & Jessicka Havok any day of the week. Why? I’m not sure, & its a damn shame someone like Havok needs to be on tv. TNA isn’t as bad as WWE with their looks, but TNA ain’t all about picking the best workers, but the best workers with “their” look.
at 10:28 pm
TNA actually rejected Sara Del Rey because they didn’t like the way she looked. The only shimmer talent TNA is interested in at the moment is Serena Deeb.
The knockouts division is fine the way it is, though I wouldn’t mind if they dropped Winter.
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
I don’t understand why TNA would say that. I think that after Jessicka Havok that SDR is the hottest woman in wrestling. She also has a good look and is the best female wrestler in The US.
WWFoverWWE Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:34 pm
Oops when I said the knockouts are fine the way they are, I meant theres nothing wrong with them. I actually hope TNA signs Serena.
Blowbangfan Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:45 pm
I hope they don’t sign Serena. I think she’s terrible and I don’t want to see her at all.I would love it the most if Natalya got released from WWE and she actually went to TNA to become their dominant powerhouse Knockout…
Jhonmarco Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:49 pm
Serena’s terrible? Far from it (not trying to demoralize your opinion), but she’s a terrific human being & a damn fine wrestler. & can play a great heel & an amazing babyface. I doubt Natalya would go to TNA, she seems loyal to WWE.
Joel Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:51 pm
You must have missed her matches against Kana, check them out on YouTube.
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
Yeah I agree. Serena is WAY overrated. She’s one of the best faces in wrestling but only knows punch, jab, monkey flip, spear, suplex and only has good matches when she is carried.
WWFoverWWE Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 11:01 pm
Serena is incredible and she deserves to be on TV. I think the knockouts division is perfect for her.
Blowbangfan Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 11:16 pm
Serena sucks bad. I watched her match versus Kana and it’s a travesty she won. Too bad about Natalya being so loyal to WWE because they seem to have no problem burying her and taking away all her credibility as a dominant wrestler. Wrestlers like Natalya should never ever lose to girls like Alicia Fox, Kelly Kelly or The Bellas…
Jhonmarco Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 11:41 pm
Serena sucks? How? Her style is old school, she’s the babyface Portia Perez, they don’t exactly have the “movez” of a Del Rey but they’re not bad at all. In fact, they’re some of the best going today. Different styles, but it in no way means they suck.
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 11:44 pm
Well Serena has five moves to her name and doesn’t do anything interesting, and can only put on good matches when she is carried
Jhonmarco Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 11:47 pm
Carried? Oh no, just her selling & old-school style. Let’s not get crazy here folks.
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 11:52 pm
If she would do more than punch-jab-monkey flip-spear-suplex than I might not have an issue with her in ring style.
at 10:30 pm
I don’t know what the training policy is for TNA wrestlers, but I thought Jackie would have been a solid coach for the Knockouts’ development.
at 10:30 pm
Why is everyone bitching about this now ? This like happened months ago where Jackie got released and Jesse Neal said that CVE had no contract in TNA. Plus I still think the KOs are and forever will be the best. And as far as looks go I do think looks are apparent in the entire world. But TNA brings women who looks good and can actually wrestle. Instead of just competing to win a spot on a roster with no wrestle experience.
at 10:55 pm
Joshifan, just a short message.
I would love for all my favorite Joshi wrestlers and indy wrestlers to be the mainstream, but this isn’t going to happen. I would prefer to have 1 Ayumi than 100 Angelina Love’s, but that’s not going to happen. Looks will always be apart of wrestling, in fact – they will always be important to people in life. We can complain about how our favorites that should be at the top aren’t at the top, but that wont get us anywhere. The best thing we can do is spread the word about the wrestling we like without offending people and calling them ‘sluts’ because that makes our points seem immature and invalid.
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 11:02 pm
Yes I agree. I’m sorry but I get passionate about this. I love wrestling, and women’s wrestling, and it makes me sad to see how the mainstream women are. I agree about the looks but like I said, I think that they can hire women with good looks who can wrestle as well and please both crowds but they just don’t care, and it makes me angry. :(
Joel Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 11:08 pm
I guess we’ll just have to hope that Shimmer gets a TV deal in the future or something. I’m a dreamer too.
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 11:18 pm
I would love for SHIMMER to have a US branch of their company (because they can’t afford all their foreign talent). Mix their US and Canadian wrestlers with a few Mexicans and maybe have some women move to the US. I wish that CHIKARA would get a TV deal and add more women besides Saturyne and Sara del Rey.
at 11:07 pm
Don’t care about Christina, but Jackie… *shakes head*
at 11:21 pm
I wish TNA would sign Jessicka Havok. I’d first want them to take Kaitlyn and Natalya away from WWE but Jess would definitely be my third choice. Obviously, Maryse would be huge too but she’d be even less likely than Natalya or Kaitlyn to join the rival company since she’s not even interested in wrestling. Most of all, I hope Kaitlyn can go there but I highly doubt it since she’s hardly even wrestling in WWE and even with her out of the spotlight she probably makes more than the girls in TNA that are in the spotlight…with the exceptions of Gail Kim and Mickie James I figure.
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 11:34 pm
Jessicka Havok on my TV = Oh My God
Blowbangfan Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 11:39 pm
Honestly, Jessicka Havok is a Goddess just as much as Kaitlyn and Natalya are. I don’t understand why TNA and WWE aren’t pursuing her. She looks powerful and is just as beautiful as the other sexiest women in the world so here’s hoping TNA can pick her up sometime this year…or WWE if they ever get their act together with the Divas…
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 11:45 pm
Seriously. I think she is the hottest woman in the world. Then add in that she is a good wrestler, the best heel in the business, and has amazing mic skills, and is still young, this woman is everything that these companies should be looking for. If either of them step their game up she needs to be on their roster.
Jhonmarco Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 11:49 pm
Kaitlyn a goddess? Huh? AND mentioned in the same sentence as Havok & Natalya? OH NO. I love the support for Jessicka. But Kaitlyn isn’t a goddess.
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 11:53 pm
I think he meant looks wise because she has the amazon type figure. I think that she could be very good is she trained properly though.
Blowbangfan Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 11:56 pm
JHONMARCO, yes obviously Kaitlyn is a Goddess. She’s as beautiful and as powerful as a woman can possibly be and she can kick most guys’ asses and dominate just about anybody in bed so yes I did mention her in the same sentence as JH and NN and I believe she has everything it takes to be just as good or a superior wrestler than both of them. And yes, I call them both Goddesses too because I truly feel that way. I know I use the word a lot, but women like that are definitely deserving of it.
Jhonmarco Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 11:59 pm
LOOOOL dominate in bed? What does that have to do with wrestling? She’s got a good figure, but it means nothing if she’s not well polished enough (which she isn’t). She’s got potiential, but please stop massively overrating her like you do.
A.E Reply:
January 18th, 2012 at 12:04 am
dude are you kidding or are you kidding i respect your passion but the woman need to prprove that she is more than a pretty face and muscular girls like trish proved she is a looker, and pull good matches same case for naomi ,but kaitlyne is way way out of that league .she is one of the people who i was asking myself what the heck is she doing in a wrestling ring
Jhonmarco Reply:
January 17th, 2012 at 11:57 pm
I know she has potiential, but this user frequently puts Kaitlyn on a pedestal. And it’s getting to a point where it’s frustrating.
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 18th, 2012 at 12:00 am
Yeah I think he’s a cool guy, but if he wants to like Kaitlyn, let him be. I don’t think he is saying she is a good wrestler, but he likes her looks and thinks she has potential. I think it would be cool if she could go to Japan to train. They know how to show a strong built woman how to work. Haha.
Blowbangfan Reply:
January 18th, 2012 at 12:08 am
I just said she would dominate in bed to further exemplify how she’s worthy of being called a Goddess. I disagree with you about just having potential because she has ability now, and can go toe-to-toe with any woman wrestler in the world; even the elite as far as I’m concerned. I’m not putting her on a pedestal. I’m just giving her the proper credit since she’s underrated and not even used because WWE is all messed up. Bellas, Kelly and Layla were never even close to where Kaitlyn is so I’m just saying how great it would be if she were to be in the spotlight as she deserves to be.
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 18th, 2012 at 12:30 am
Lol she can’t go toe to toe in the ring. Maybe in a bodybuilding competition but that’s about it. She’s very green in the ring. Nowhere near the level of the best, like Ayako Hamada, Ayumi Kurihara, Blue Nikita, Hiroyo Matsumoto, Jenny Sjodin, Kana, LuFisto, Meiko Satomura, Mercedes Martinez, Sara del Rey.
Jhonmarco Reply:
January 18th, 2012 at 1:28 am
LMAO! Del Rey would kill Kaitlyn in a match, stop playing. Your love for her makes you blind.
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 18th, 2012 at 2:57 am
I think it would be hilarious to put the non wrestling divas in matches with women like Blue Nikita, Jenny Sjodin, Mercedes Martinez, Sara del Rey. I would pay to see them beat the living hell out of a diva haha.
Jhonmarco Reply:
January 18th, 2012 at 3:24 am
Not to be mean but I would seeing those kind of matches. A Kelly/Del Rey match, utter murder-fest. & tbh I don’t even think Beth, Natalya, or Kharma are on someone like Mercedes or Sara’s level. Mostly due to the fact that they’ve gotten to face credible women & bring up their game while Beth/Nattie have had to face weaker opponents & lower their game a bit.
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 18th, 2012 at 5:15 am
Yeah the ex indy WWE women are pretty overrated. Women like Blue Nikita, LuFisto, Mercedes Martinez, and Sara del Rey have been facing most higher quality opponents as well and that has made them even more so better.
I’d like to see them beat the hell out of the divas but only once, I don’t want to see the divas in any sort of division haha. Beat them then fire them.
at 2:30 am
No surprise x2. Christine was rent don’t buy when Jesse Neal didn’t want to go to OVW to get better, and Jackie…well
Mikas Reply:
January 18th, 2012 at 3:16 am
He didnt go to OVW because he didnt want to get better, but appearently wrestlers who are send there get a big pay cut on their salaries. You cant blame a guy for turning that down. Moving to a new state and getting paid less for your appearances, would you do that?
Jordan Reply:
January 18th, 2012 at 3:41 am
Not just that, but he would also lose any of the Florida promotion bookings that he takes to pay his bills while he isn’t working for TNA at TV or live events. Taking a popular wrestler and half of a tag team off of TV in the middle of a feud is just another TNA “WTF?” moment. In the long run, they [TNA] cost a partner money (JAKKS Pacific; who have/ had a Jesse Neal figure lined up) and set back their tag team division, yet again.
NY32986 Reply:
January 18th, 2012 at 12:14 pm
besides he’s trying for WWE anyways…
at 3:26 am
Not to be all “PC” here, but Christina is actually Jesse Neal’s fiancé – has been since last summer. It’s a shame about her TNA run. A lot of people had been waiting to see if she would eventually be in the company since her tryout in 2010 because of being a Florida-based talent and her relationship with Jesse then it finally happened and was over before it began. There was some natural in-ring chemistry between Sarita and Toxxin during their few, brief encounters. It would have made for a good feud had TNA not abruptly cut the Mexican America vs. Ink Inc. feud from TV. Too bad TNA only had her as another paid per appearance talent, she would have been a great spice to the Knockouts division. The whole Jesse Neal situation is still very confusing if you ask me.
I’m not heartbroken over Miss Jackie, great woman but I don’t know, I don’t think anything was ever going to come out of her return.
at 6:17 am
I don’t care much for either so it doesnt break my heart any.. we don’t see enough ko’s that are on the roster as it is..
Good luck to both, and from what I saw.. Toxxine or w/e lame name they called her wasn’t much fun to watch.. and I know someone is going to say go watch this match or this show. I’m not going to because I don’t like watching indy shows, I like the large crowd reactions and clearer camera’s.
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 18th, 2012 at 6:25 am
Well because they barely used her. If you see her on the indys, she is pretty decent even though she has quite a bit of work cut out for her haha.
thejoshifanx Reply:
January 18th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
Well if you would look over good wrestling because the quality isn’t 1080p then you are sad haha
Joel Reply:
January 18th, 2012 at 8:13 pm
Indy camera’s are just as clear… and crowds? That’s just weird.
at 9:02 am
Christina left on her own when Jesse Neil left..so thats on her..
But Jackie..wow sucks she had some great matches with Roxxi Gail Kim n Traci Brooks early on her tna career!!
Deff wanted to see more of you Jackie you rocked!
at 1:59 pm
Instead of inducting one Woman into the Hall Of Fame this year that this time that WWE can induct two,Jackie and Madusa are the ones that they need to induct into the Hall Of Fame.There are so many people that WWE needs to induct into the Hall Of Fame who has paved the way for future generations of wrestlers both men and women to be in the WWE, and WWE needs to set their personal feelings towards the person whom they are inducting into the Hall Of Fame and focus on their wrestling abilities and years that they have spent in The WWE.
Brayiaino Reply:
January 19th, 2012 at 3:04 pm
Both Jackie and Madusa should be inducted and perhaps both will now that Jackie has left TNA and Madusa seems to be on good terms with them. I also think Luna Vachon, Sable, and Chyna should be in there too. (They’ve started mentioning Chyna a lot interviews and pieces for WWE.com whereas for years she was conveniently forgotten). I also think Miss Elizabeth and Randy Savage should be inducted together.
Getting back to Jackie I’d love for her to get a backstage role as a trainer in WWE/FCW. She’s a tough competitor and the current crop of divas would learn a lot from her.
at 2:40 am
Why get rid of a rising star like Toxxin/Christina Von Eerie they never even gave her a chance to prove what she an do in the ring