Raw Redux (August 13th, 2012): WWE Remembers It Has a Divas Champion, Build to Booker T’s Next Top Assistant Heats Up

Greetings all, and welcome to this week’s wonderful Raw Redux. I didn’t see Raw as it aired last night, so imagine my surprise in discovering the powers that be have somehow magically allowed me to recap JTG! More on that later, though. Tonight was a pretty sweet night for the females, as Layla and Kaitlyn teamed up to face off against Eve and Beth Phoenix in tag team action. Not only that, but we get some segments backstage with Kaitlyn and Eve, as well as our General Manager, AJ Lee! As always, let’s kick things off with some action.

We head out to the ring to the sound of two insatiable women, in the form of Kaitlyn and… hey, wait a second, is that our Divas Champion? It is! Layla has finally showed herself on Raw again. Following their entrance comes that of their opponents, who are no stranger to one another, in the form of Eve and Beth Phoenix. They actually promote the match this Friday between Eve and Kaitlyn, which is an excellent touch although feels weird that Layla is again playing second fiddle.

As soon as the bell sounds, we get things started with Beth and the champion. Phoenix immediately goes for a military press, but Layla counters out into a bit of a miscue of a sunset flip. Beth immediately takes her into their corner, as Eve tags in with a kick.

Torres continues the ambush of Layla, sending her into the ropes. Layla comes off with one of her bridge roll ups, but this too doesn’t seem to execute smoothly. The Divas Champ with a kick and then leaps off with a crossbody from the corner for a two count. She applies a headlock, but Torres fights out and sends Layla into the ropes again. Layla avoids making contact in Eve’s trap, and then proceeds to bust a move like we’ve seen her do before. She bumps Eve in the head with her bottom (way to make me miss Naomi, Layla!) and then makes the tag in to Kaitlyn after hitting a clothesline. Kaitlyn with a nice backbreaker for a two count on her opponent this Friday.

She executes a jackknife cover, but only for the count of dos. Michael Cole makes his first great comment in the history of his tenure in WWE by claiming Kaitlyn is a future Divas Champion, just as Eve sends her right into the turnbuckle. Kaitlyn hits an elbow to the face and leaps onto the second rope, but Torres brutally slams her off and goes to town on the lime green adorned Diva. Eve makes the tag back into Beth, who DRILLS Kaitlyn with a nasty kick and then chokes her out with her boot. Phoenix knocks Layla off the ropes as the two of them double team Kaitlyn while the Divas Champ keeps the referee distracted. Kaitlyn then boots Beth in the stomach and fires up! Not for long though, as Beth applies a Canadian Backbreaker! Kaitlyn slips out and throws Beth into Eve, knocking her to the floor. From there, she rolls Beth up and gets the big win over the former Divas Champion!


Skip to 0:17

Backstage, we spy… okay, I think I’m in a dream right now because I honestly can’t believe that I’m seeing JTG and Kaitlyn backstage on Raw in a segment where they are the focus. AJ, you just know how to win me over more each week. JTG is complaining to Kaitlyn about not getting a spot on the card when the show is now three hours. JTG, I don’t think it needs to be said how much I’m a fan of yours, but are you really complaining about this to someone who has only ever been on Raw to perform a can-can in a line up after a 14 Diva tag team match? At least pick Kelly Kelly or something. Nonetheless, he calls this situation crazy… which sparks our slightly crazed GM, AJ Lee, to interrupt while in mid skip!

AJ demands to know what he just said, but he tries to downplay it. He wants Kaitlyn to take his side on this matter, but AJ won’t let him get a word in! She begins to laugh and states that if he wants to compete, he can get to the ring right now! JTG heads off, leaving our Chickbusters as the focus of Raw! AJ says that yes, they’ve had their differences, but Kaitlyn doesn’t really believe she’s unstable, right? Kaitlyn lets out a laugh and says that she can think of many words to describe AJ, that of which unstable is not one of. The two laugh, as Kaitlyn hurries off and AJ’s expression turns from happiness to slightly on edge. I love it!

Backstage, CM Punk is stretching as Eve Torres approaches him. She congratulates him on becoming a new version of himself. He denies that he made any sort of a change at all, claiming he just fights for respect. Eve states that she doesn’t believe anyone believes that, especially John Cena to which Punk claims he will go tell him face to face right now.

Check out AJ’s match making abilities below around the 11:33 mark:

Also, witness her distress terror as she discovers the bad side of having such a powerful role when Brock Lesnar invades Shawn Michaels car and kidnaps him by skipping to the 9:17 mark:

Thoughts: Match wise, I actually really enjoyed it. It was much longer than we’re used to, felt fresh, and I thought Kaitlyn worked nicely with both Beth and Eve. Layla was definitely off her game early on, but aside from those two mishaps, she wasn’t that bad, in my opinion. It’s so refreshing to have matches on Raw going longer than a minute. Whether or not you were a fan of the action in ring or not, the Divas do seem to be getting a little bit more time to work now that the show has expanded to three hours, and that is a huge positive because the age old complaint has been about them not getting enough time to wrestle on the main shows.

Also, I couldn’t be more happy for Kaitlyn. This was another big win for her over Beth and she deserves some spotlight as far as I’m concerned. Kaitlyn is one of my favorite Divas in WWE, and if we’re just going by the Divas who actively compete in the division, she is my favorite. She helped make NXT Redemption my shining star of wrestling programming, and I find her to not only be improving in the ring each week, but she also has the acting chops as well for backstage segments. She can be funny, as seen through her NXT run, and she can also be serious, like in the segments with AJ on SmackDown earlier this year. I just think she’s something special and I would love to see her become Divas Champion. I’m kind of worried for the match with Eve this Friday though because I don’t want either woman to become Booker’s assistant now that they’re seeming to have spots in the actual division. It will likely mean they cease wrestling as AJ has, but on the other hand, it also means we will probably at least be guaranteed to see them on a weekly basis. When it was first announced, I wanted Kaitlyn to win the position because she’s in desperate need of screen time more so than Eve. After tonight though, I kind of want Eve to win because I feel like you need a heel to bounce off a face in administrative roles. It would be much more interesting in my opinion. Then you could maybe have Kaitlyn undergo this lucky streak of wins and work her way up into a Divas Title feud with Layla.

I have no clue what they’re doing with Layla and her title, but at this point does it truly matter? Her reign has probably been the worst in the title’s history, which sucks when it’s for reasons beyond her control. I don’t see how much of anything can salvage it at this point. Personally, I wouldn’t mind if she just dropped the belt in a battle royal at SummerSlam or something because I feel like it needs to go to someone else now. I mean, she’s held the title for almost four months and how much of that has she been on TV? They don’t seem to want to invest in her without Michelle McCool by her side, so maybe giving the title to someone else will spark an interest. Probably not, but there’s hope. I sort of call the Divas Title a curse because it seems like whenever a Diva gets to hold it, they vanish from TV provided their reign lasts more than a week. It’s sad, but on the bright side the matches are getting longer and I hope that this interest in Kaitlyn does not die down anytime soon.

Also, bonus points for storyline continuation with the Chickbusters, as well as Eve continuing with the role as the little voice filling CM Punk’s head with ideas!

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  • jen07201

    I really loved how we got to see more of Kaitlyn last night.

  • moonpiggy

    I for one, was happy that they mentioned Eve and Kaitlyn’s match on Friday to sorta build it up. F-ck you layla & beth is irrelevant. i want britani

  • redsandman99

    I enjoyed the match overall. I agree with Layla being off her game which was unfortunate but it happens to every wrestler at some point. The sunslet flip counter out of the military press was really just an awkward way to counter it. Balance was lost somewhere. And the bridge roll up would have been okay if she hadn’t tried to go for the crucifix variation of it. The match itself felt fresh though, Kaitlyn looks good going into Smackdown and the girls actually got time. Hopefully the trend continues. A new champion is needed I think…just to freshen things up and then it can just be made into a feud with Layla for an actual direction in the division. A battle royal for the title could work or a tournament to crown a contender could work too.

  • WWFoverWWE

    Does WWE want Beth gone? I’m starting to get that impression. As for the match…it wasn’t the worst diva match but still sloppy, especially from Layla and Kaitlyn’s part.

    What was the crowd chanting anyway?

    • redsandman99

      We want tables at one part and either we want ryder or we want fire at another….couldn’t quite tell at that part.

      • perceval

        Was it tables or a certain former Diva some of the crowd knew was backstage?

        • redsandman99

          I’ve watched it about three or four times now and put my ears up to my speakers. I swear I hear tables.

        • AfroJack

          It’s definitely ‘we want tables’ because it was a trending topic last night.

    • T@KESH1

      more like Layla and Eve’s part and I challenge you to specify why not.

      others already have (moreso) as to why

      • WWFoverWWE

        Didn’t hook both legs when attempting the jacknife pin on Eve and sloppy finishing roll-up on Beth.

        • T@KESH1

          It’s quite a simple comparison.

          On the bridge pin, you can call ppl’s cadence of a move sloppy when it affects vastly physicality or psychology of the move, & that clearly didn’t happen. Kaitlyn not doing it to your(or anyone’s) particular preference doesn’t count.

          On the match pinfall, compare the momentary readjust to actual arm resistance by Eve to chain to Layla’s dubl arm pin attempt. Even if you just compare the resulting time delays, it’s no contest. There’s objective criteria.

    • hado

      They were chanting “We want tables” and at some point they were chanting “We want Layla.”

      • Raekon

        The chant was “we want Skylar” which I think has to do with Buggy Novas new name(probably fans of hers that were in the show and know about it or even her friends?).
        Layla was in the ring at the time this chant started so it wouldn’t had made sense to ask for her anyway. :p

        Wenn it comes to the jacknife pin I must say that one can clearly see that Kaitlyn executed it correctly but Eve lowered both her legs straightening them on the floor so the only thing that Kaitlyn was able to do was holding Eves thighs so the move still cab be shown as legimitate.

        Check also Kaitlyns bridge. It was totally on spot and due to Eves “resistance” to cooperation it cost Kaitlyn even more strength then it should have.

        Same thing when Eve botched Laylas pin combination in which Layla had to put all her strength to roll her into the right position so she can do the crusifix pin.
        Eve had a off night, it happens, Layla seemed off aswell.
        From what I heard so far, Evens match with Kaitlyn should had been short and sloppy aswell.
        I hope its not true. :/

    • AveCindy

      I was there and the chant was “We Want SABLE!”

      • Raekon

        Ah no tables then? ^_^
        There was another chant though and it was we want Skylar.
        Check it out, the first chant sounds like we want tables (probably the sable one) and later when layla is in the ring comes the other chant.

  • lucky1now

    to me the match felt longer then it was i enjoyed it
    fridays match is being built up i have a feeling friday wont determine who gets the spot it might continue at summerslam
    who says you have to have a belt to have a fued

  • Acrant

    Commentary seems to point for a real Kaitlyn push. Hope she gets to feud with Layla. Yeah its face/face but it makes way more sense at this point.

    • WWFoverWWE

      Commentary doesn’t point to anything. They put every diva in a high light. Cole even said Layla has had a great reign as champion, that should tell you everything.

      • Acrant

        They aren’t going to say she has a shitty on are they? Its not just this week, it was the same at MITB.

        • WWFoverWWE

          They put every diva in high light, not just kaitlyn. Listen to the commentary during this tag match, they were praising every diva.

        • redsandman99

          Given how badly Cole used to bury the girls, I’m glad they were getting praised instead.

  • http://facebook.com/mykael.kennedy mykel1990

    The match was alright, wasn’t bad, at all. And I loved seeing our *Matt Striker Voice (God he’s sexy* Little English Muffin, Layla. I hope she and Eve feud for the Diva’s title, it was also nice to see the Glamazon back in all her kick ass glory. I loved how diva-heavy the segments were on RAW, the women are getting more notice and actually are mixing it up with men which is also refreshing. I dig it.org!

  • Mr. Asstastic

    Watching Layla mess up was the most entertaining part of Raw, imo.

    • Adam

      I knew that would make you happy, since you have it out for Layla. The funny thing is though, neither were Layla’s fault.

      The sunset flip was Beth’s fault, if you look you can see her lose her balance and bend over which caused the funky pin. Then the arm drag barrel roll into the pin was more Eve’s fault, imo, as she didn’t have her arm out and Layla had to physically move Eve’s arm before she could go to the pin.

  • i want divas

    gosh beth loss like 4 matches and yu guys think she getting fired…. natayla has a losing streak from like months ago… alex riley hasnt won since LAST YEAR lols but wwe doesnt want them gone

    • HerbertAhnee

      Alex Riley beat Dolph last week

    • Jcott3

      Keep in mind that WWE regularly has the faces go over in Divas matches, especially tag matches. This is why we keep getting Kelly Kelly.

      Now if you really want to complain about a woman getting buried, go look at the last year-plus of Molly Holly’s career or the last two years of Victoria’s WWE career.

  • ricky_says_hi

    watching the match back i think it was Eve who was messing up early on. when Layla went for that pin of hers Eve didn’t roll down quick enough and Layla was struggling to roll over her. Eve looked off when she was working with Kaitlyn as well. she just wasn’t having a good night

    when it comes to the assistant position, it should be Kaitlyn because Eve needs to stay in the women’s division. she is the heel that needs to challenge Layla because Layla has beaten everyone else. they could even have Layla cost Eve her match against Kaitlyn to start something between them

    and if we’re going by terrible Divas title reigns, i think Brie’s was a lot worse. she only defended the belt once and she only won two matches the whole time she was champion

  • Lanoom

    - Layla’s theme (Tiffany’s old) is one of the worst pieces of music in wrestling history. She could have “American Males” and it’d be better.

    - Diva’s Title is the Kiss of Death. They never seem to have any idea what to do with the champion, least of all actually make them seem like a champion, and thus it has no prestige at all.

    - Yay for lengthier matches and more promos. Hopefully Kaitlyn makes the best of them.

    - That said, I think Layla may’ve been the biggest detriment to the tag match, which is sad.

    • TheLadySamantha

      I just Youtubed “American Males” and it was like vomit emitting from my speakers.

  • AfroJack

    Lovin’ the photo, great way to get people to visit the article. #kaitlyn’sass

  • shannymac

    I hope Eve “wins” the assistant job. We already have AJ as a (mostly) face GM on RAW, and Booker as a face on SD. They need a little heel manipulation in the mix, and Eve has proven good at that. She would have a lot more to do in that role than Kaitlyn.

    Unless, of course, WWE is somehow going to build a feud between Kaitlyn and AJ.

    • Raekon

      Aj is still a tweener.

  • WidowsPeakFreak

    Layla could be a better champion if WWE would get rid of her dancing gimmick and make her more of a serious champion.As for kaitlyn well there’s not much to say because there not much there to be honest i mean lets be real here what is her personalty? and what is her move-set because she did not get show off any of her move-set she went for a pin the a roll up for the win.I think i’m going to have watch her matches with Maxine to understand the character of kaitlyn again because she to me is just some typical diva,And i say this because when divas are off tv for soo long you start to forget who these divas or what there personality is. So my guessing is that eve will be victorious at smackdown

    • Ed

      Kaitlyn actually has a bigger move set than a lot of the other Divas. You just don’t get to see it much outside of NXT, FCW and occasionally Superstars.

      As for what her personality is? I don’t see why you’re singling out Kaitlyn with that when you could pretty much ask the same question of any Diva not named AJ right now.

    • T@KESH1

      Glad you recognized the lack of opportunity and sparse chances but there’s no excuse for not seeing her persona and more. Check her on wwe utube videos, even when she’s playing straight to Curtis and Bateman she showing that eccentric, dry humor. You got her doing soliloquy on NXT! A “typical diva”? How about the answer to the question – who has got the closest build (best/highest) to Beth Phoenix but can absolutely pull off a traditional fem roles, ex. a gf storyline w/ a male superstar? The answer isn’t Tamina or Natalya.

  • beliEVEr

    Glad the Divas got a good amount of time. Layla was just meh and not as good as she usually is in the ring. Just wasn’t her night last night, that’s all. I’m hoping Kaitlyn wins tonight, or rather Friday. Eve doesn’t need to be put back in another GM role, she needs to be wrestling. I don’t really think any of the girls need to be in GM roles, honestly. Not any of the ones who are considered active wrestlers and have potential or are good wrestlers. If Eve looses, I hope she goes onto feud with Layla. It’d be nice to see Eve and Punk form some sort of heel faction. Someone said it on the comments but Punk is TOTALLY whipped by Eve, lmfao xD

    • revivingophelia

      I think Eve and Punk would be very interesting together…

  • French.One

    Match was sloppy but interesting. Kaitlyn took a nice bump, but that jacknife pin scared me to death (probably Eve was scared too).
    Divas need to improve their showing if they want to be on screen every week.

    sidenote : Eve looks more confident in backstage segment now.

    • T@KESH1

      deffo scared cuz she put her hands up. Eve’s one of the taller Divas so Kaitlyn’s cadence of the move (grabbing feet/calves and not hamstrings) is not advisable for the future.

  • wwesvrrocks101

    i think kaitlyn is the future kelly kelly of wwe.

    • beliEVEr

      …How so? :o

    • Raekon

      Kaitlyn has the least experience in the ring out of all the main roster divas.

      Even on FCW the only Diva that have less experience than her is Audrey Marie that got signed a year later than Kaitlyn.

      Still if you compare her in ring work and segments, you can clearly see that she is much better than several other divas.

      If you wanna go with a “Blonde” then maybe you could compare her talent and fast improvement to Michell Mc Cool(even though she was lacking charisma a bit) but definately not to Kelly Kelly.

  • http://au.groups.yahoo.com/group/WWE_Divas/ art

    How did layla mess up??? eve clearly shitty sold her arm drag pin move & beth leaned forward & putting layla off balance……

  • Adam

    Just so you all know, Layla WASN’T at fault for the mishaps in this match.

    As I said earlier, the sunset flip was Beth’s fault, if you look you can see her lose her balance and bend over which caused the funky pin.

    Then the arm drag barrel roll into the pin was Eve’s fault too, as she was in a weird position to start off with before the move. She was facing the wrong way, forcing Layla to go all the way around her which made the move look slow. Then she didn’t have her arm out and Layla had to physically move Eve’s arm before she could go to the pin.

    Beth’s miscue was simply a little misstep and mistake, but Eve really was off and made Layla look bad.

    • Raekon

      You are right about the barrel roll that Eve didn’t go along with it making Layla struggling.

      If you check Laylas previous match though you will see that Beth sold the flip pin the same way(leaning towards so she can be dragged back with force).

      So Beth didn’t lose her balance upfront. It happened slightly after Layla wasn’t able to pull the move well.

      Layla had clearly a off night but it happens to everyone once in a while so it’s not a biggie.

      • Adam

        That may be true, idk I’m too lazy to look up the MITB match lol but I think the barrel role was a bigger deal anyways.

        I just hate that people are demoting Layla’s abilities now.

        • Raekon

          Don’t give much into it.

          People tend to demote everyone besides Beth and partially Natalya from what I have experienced on this site in the most cases. Same on youtube.

          I remember when Beth injured herself when she wanted to jump clothesline Rosa that was laying on the corner and people went around that Rosa injured her. :p

          Did she injure her by just being there or what?

          In the other match in which Beth messed up the atomic drop, making Rosa and herself lose their balance, it was Rosas “fault”.

          In other occassions it was other Divas fault again so…
          I think you get the idea. ^_^

          Anyway, in this case it was really Laylas fault but as I said before, everyone has a off day at times so it’s not a biggie. At least to me its not.

  • perceval

    Was that a “We want Sable” chant?!

    • beliEVEr

      It was a “We Want Tables” chant.

    • norisclouds

      I think it was Sable as well…

  • missawesomeness

    i am an aj fan but i’m not liking what there doing with her.all she has done is state the obvious with the matches like cm punk & john cena vs the big show & DB obviously the whole wwe universe could have seen it coming.
    she’s suppose to to be mentally unstable so doesn’t that mean that she would put superstars in career threatening matches instead of the same old iv’e waited a few weeks iv’e given her a chance but I’m totally disappointed

    OMG a triple threat match at summerslam aj is more than mentally unstable she’s batshit crazy
    really ?

    • redsandman99

      Right now AJ’s really only got it out for Bryan and for anyone she hears or thinks she hears calling her crazy (see JTG and Del Rio).

  • http://twitter.com/RyanRoman0 Ryan

    Match was sweet!! Layla Doing her thing was fun haha. Dig the dancing it’s cute :)
    The sunset flip was not bad but was weird lol thanks a lot Beth..
    And Eve sucks in the ring. I know she was good as the good guy but now as a heel she sucks..
    Kate did great loved the jacket knife bridge cover haha was a really sweet pin

    And AJ when Kate told her she wasn’t unbalanced, AJ is the most broken female I have ever seen!

    • fahkyooh

      Even as a face Eve had all this athleticism and had no idea how to use it. Missing her mark with the dropkicks, kicking variations, etc. She’s always been stumbley, lost and botchy in the ring. It takes her 20 seconds to hit the moonsault for crying out loud and it’s her finisher.

  • flash1086

    Sloppy match.

    And the people wondering the chants. It was “WE WANT CHYNA”
    And I dont blame them.

    • SweeneyTodd

      The chant was “We want tables”

    • TheLadySamantha

      Like Chyna could do anything to improve the Divas division. She’s a complete mess compared to her WWF days.

  • Ed

    A Divas tag team match where everyone actually got to tag in? What is this madness?!

  • http://divaderby.net/ DivaDerby

    I get that people are excited that a new diva is getting a push, BUT, Kaitlyn doesn’t have an impressive move-set, which will make all her matches underwhelming. Beth/Eve/AJ all have an impressive move-set that they’ve mastered. Kaitlyn will not excite anyone in her matches. She needs a more impressive move-set. Layla was off tonight, but we know she can deliver. Kaitlyln? Well, I’ve never seen her deliver much. I’ve seen her on Superstars, NXT and rarely do I ever see anything from her that impresses me. Why give her a push and not Naomi? Naomi would excite everyone, Kaitlyn might put people to sleep.

    • Acrant

      Her move-set is fine.

    • T@KESH1

      Beth – dozen years in the biz
      Aj – nearly half that^
      Kaitlyn nearly 1/3 of that^

      2+ years in the biz w/ a move embargo and can sell vastly better than her exp time, but all you see is a lack of sig. spots?! Unfortunately, she ain’t got a wrestling family of which to inherit stuff. So, it’ll take time and much opportunity.

    • Raekon

      The reason why Naomi isn’t in the ring anymore and they found her a other type of role was that she is dangerous in the ring.

      Yes, she had a flashy moveset but she was unfortunately very sloppy and botchy most of the time.

      Out of all the divas in WWE right now, Kaitlyn and Audrey Marie have the least experience (Audrey got signed a year after Kaitlyn and everyone else got signed before Kaitlyn).

      Still her in ring work and segments are better than many other divas.
      This alone shows how talented and athletic she actually is.

      In my opinion and out of all the matches I saw from her in FCW/NXT , Houseshows and Main Roster, she has a big variety of moves and a larger moveset than several other divas together.

      However, in Raw/SD, her moveset is watered down to like 3-4 moves most of the time which I personally dislike.

      I know that it’s not her fault when it comes to that cause even in Laylas case, you can see that after her return, her moveset contents also only like 5 moves in the meantime.

      If you can watch how Layla was before you will see a much larger moveset and more diversity aswell.

      • WWFoverWWE

        Your statements about Naomi are the definition of bullshit. WWE didn’t put her in a wrestling role because lack of commitment to push her. They simply aren’t ready to use her and have put her with Brodus Clay to keep her busy until they are.

        There were reports after nxt ended that WWE was afraid to use Naomi because her wrestling skills were far too advanced, and as a result would’ve made the other divas look bad. That’s why she stayed in FCW for so long, even after all the other nxt girls debuted on the main roster

        Botchy and sloppy?? Sorry, pick a different lie next time.

        • T@KESH1

          I’d like to see these “reports”. (considering who is noting them)

        • missawesomeness

          “because her wrestling skills were far too advanced” that’s so not true if it was then why are they hiring Sara Del Rey ? and if it was the case they should still use her because she could help carry other divas it makes no sense. WWE is always trying mold divas into Trish it failed with Kelly but, If Naomi is as advanced as you say she is it would be a simple task.

          Honestly Naomi being advanced then the rest is just plain bullshit because if she was dripping with talent then obviously she’d be used.
          Also if she knew that she was better then a dancing role she probably would have quit a long time ago.

        • WWFoverWWE

          @Takeshi Here’s the link:

          wrestlezoneDOTcom/news/171737-dean-malenko-health-update-kaitlyn–naomis-wwe-future

          @Missaweosmeness Like I said, WWE aren’t ready to use her, especially with girls like Layla, Eve, Kelly, and Beth still around. It’s not a question about talent, just lack of commitment for Naomi right now. Sara Del Rey was signed to be a trainer, we’re not sure if she’ll actually wrestle on the main roster.

        • MomoMufFinSsFTW

          Naomi is Very Sloppy in the ring actually, She may be Better Wrestling Wise But she does some very risky moves And it’s Ok Because that’s what entertains the fans But Naomi is sloppy especially when she does that spin kick in the corner

        • T@KESH1

          @ WWFOVERWWE:
          thnx. I respect the Observer but it does seem a hyperbolic conjecture (& I have recognized Naomi) esp given the noting of the single season of wrestling experienced Kaitlyn that prefaced that “Official’s” Naomi comment. Context is kinda important.

        • T@KESH1

          Also, I replied to your TTT comment

        • Ed

          “There were reports after nxt ended that WWE was afraid to use Naomi because her wrestling skills were far too advanced, and as a result would’ve made the other divas look bad. That’s why she stayed in FCW for so long, even after all the other nxt girls debuted on the main roster”

          And you actually believed this? They don’t want to let Naomi wrestle because she’s so skilled that she’ll make the other Divas look bad, but they have no problem putting Beth and Nattie in the ring, who are more skilled than Naomi? That’s just silly.

        • Raekon

          @WWFOVERWWE:
          If she would had been as talented as you are stating, there wouldn’t had been a “lack of commitment” to push her.
          Is she very athletic? Yes! Is she a fast learner? Yes!

          The problem is that even she learned fast and got her flashy moveset together, her execution of the moves was often sloppy and botchy.

          She should had dropped a few of these moves and rather go with something she can pull off for sure and on point.

          Not doing so It’s as if she is tripping herself on cause only because she wants to “stand out” through her moveset.

          I would had definately changed my moveset with something I could pull off on point instead of staying with the same flashy moves that I can pull off in like 50% of the cases.

          The last few matches she had on FCW were bad and it was obvious that she couldn’t carry a newer girl like Audrey in her last match there either.

          If she were THAT good or as good as you are saying, then she would had been able to do so.

          I mean most of the other divas that are “less talented” (according to your comment) can, why can’t see if she is “better” than everyone else?

          Don’t need to lie about anyone btw, not on this site and not in real life.

          I’m rather a straight forward person and when some people are having a problem with me it’s because I’m telling them what I think in their face instead of talking about them behind their back.

          What I wrote about Naomi is what I saw so far.

          I love her athletisism and her personality but only because I like her, it doesn’t mean that I will ignore her issues.

      • WWFoverWWE

        @Takeshi Here’s the link:

        http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/171737-dean-malenko-health-update-kaitlyn–naomis-wwe-future

        @Missaweosmeness Like I said, WWE aren’t ready to use her, especially with girls like Layla, Eve, Kelly, and Beth still around. It’s not a question about talent, just lack of commitment for Naomi right now. Sara Del Rey was signed to be a trainer, we’re not sure if she’ll actually wrestle on the main roster.