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Ric Flair, Charlotte‘s Hall of Famer and 16-time world champion father, is alleging that WWE changed the outcome of Sunday’s historic match because the company feared for Sasha Banks‘ health.

Ric was on Busted Open Radio on SiriusXM on Monday and told hosts Dave LaGreca and Doug Mortman that:

They took two huge spots out of the match, during the match, because they were afraid Sasha was going to get hurt. If the original plan had been, there were two things and I don’t want to say what they were, but you can only imagine. One of them involved a moonsault.

This lines up with Dave Meltzer‘s assertion on Wrestling Observer Radio that the outcome was changed at the last minute by Vince McMahon. Meltzer noted the original plan had been for Sasha to retain in front of her hometown crowd at the end of a history-making night for the women… until Vince changed his mind.

Vince screwed it up even worse because the original finish was Sasha Banks going over. Why that was changed… I mean, there is a reason. I don’t know the reason other than the decision was made to go with Charlotte and Bayley sooner than later, like sooner than it was originally going to be. Why? I don’t know.

It is also being rumored that Bayley will be the focus moving forward against Charlotte for the Raw Women’s Championship.

What do you think about this speculation? Sound off in the comments below.

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  • Of course. Vince just couldn’t let Sasha FINALLY have her moment!!!?

  • howie_ruhl

    Part of me just can’t blame them. I like Sasha but the girl does have the tendency to bite off more than she can chew. But unless she got legitimately injured during the match, she still should’ve retained. It would’ve been such a classic heart string moment and the crowd would’ve gone nuts for it.

    That said, it was a pretty good match. Among my favorites was that part when they were lowering the cage and the perspective faded onto Charlotte’s face. The look she had, girl. She really has become such a good storyteller and actress. I dislike the fact that she’s champ again but I can understand the confidence the company has on her (if it really is confidence and not just good ol fashiom nepotism.)

    • Katniss Everdeen #HungerGames

      I don’t think it’s nepotism at all. And I agree WWE has good faith in Charlotte.

    • You’re annoying. Other girls can barely get a match, let alone win it, or get a storyline and stipulation match to get those chants.
      Sashas had the privilege to prove herself on NXT and make people notice her, something others haven’t. However, she’s still riding the coattails off her nxt hype, unlike Charlotte for example, who btw went from nothing to probably the biggest heel now with GOOD booking, something only they had.

      • Damien Glut Mills

        hate much ?

        • What exactly in this paragraph was hateful?

        • Windyhawaii

          what?

  • MK126

    If they planned a moonsault/corkscrew moonsault off the top of the cage im glad they pulled that spot. If charlotte missed she could have been really injured and if sasha would have taken it she also could have been injures depending on how charlotte landed. Im all for them breaking barriers and stuff but your life after this company is important. Dont risk it all just cause you can. As for bayley vs charlotte… mehh i dont really care for the state of Raws women’s division right now.

    • HOLLA

      Im not convinced that they planned that off the cage. If anything I think it was a moonsault/corckscrew moonsault onto the Sasha and the table when it was set up on the outside of the ring. And the second spot I think would be going through the cell

      • MK126

        Im sure it wasnt just doing the moonsault/corkscrew thru the table. Charlotte already powerbombed her through the announce table before hand so i doubt corporate would care if they did it thru a regular ole table

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  • Gabriella Panajotova

    Odd. Maybe there was something backstage with Sasha which rubbed the management the wrong way or it’s just yet another panic attack of Vince. But super odd.

  • The I.C.O.N.

    I feel it was an ugly match. I like charollete but I honestly feel that she isn’t capable and seasoned enough for the type of match like hell in the cell. Yeah Sasha is injury prone but had she been in there with an experienced person she would have been less likely to get injured and spots would have been pulled off cleaner. Plus her losing was ridiculous.

  • Rocky1990

    I never, ever, ever understand where the “Sasha is injury prone” argument comes from. This statement is blown so out of proportion.

    • Windyhawaii

      she went a little too far at SummerSlam, but thats about it. I think she learned not to do that again

      • Gods_Giift

        not to be dropped on her head by her clumsy opponent?

  • Katniss Everdeen #HungerGames

    Everybody is saying that Charlotte winning was nepotism, I disagree 100% . WWE has good faith in Charlotte to be champion and the face of the women’s division. On Monday Night RAW.

    • John Finnie

      But change is needed they cant move forward with the same champ & a different challenger it is stale

      • Femme Fatale Venus Fly

        They’re not going with Charlotte & Sasha. After SS, the focus will be on Bayley. Which will then probably lead to her rivalry with Sasha.

        • Katniss Everdeen #HungerGames

          Finally, someone who gets it.

        • John Finnie

          Exactly so why give it back to charlotte Sasha vs bayley is the one we want if they are saving that for WM they couldve had Emma as Sasha’s Challenger this means Charlotte is in the story Again Sasha was in & out of the picture for a short time whereas Charlotte’s been the focus for over a year now it should have been time to take a backseat after all she has yrs left in wwe

          • Femme Fatale Venus Fly

            Pretty sure they keep the focus on Charlotte because they have faith in her as the leader of the division. And do you really think Sasha now is the way to go? Hell no! Sasha as a heel, on the otherhand, most definitely.

          • John Finnie

            I meant as heel Sasha & as for Charlotte i think if given the chance Emma could be a top heel if given the chance & a face too if given the chance like Charlotte was & is running with it, i just want another popular woman to get that chance & see if she can prove themselves
            Anywho i cant see Charlotte holding it for long i see Bayley getting it quick then retaining in time for Sasha to go full heel, who is to say that the heel needs to be champ going into Wm?

      • Katniss Everdeen #HungerGames

        Charlotte vs Bayley would be s change.

  • conan_kun

    Sasha just appears and wrestles on live event at Frankfurt, Germany, mean that she never injured, I heard a rumor said Charlotte’s PPV win streak will be the major story of Raw’s Women’s division for the foreseeable future, but the idea is to make a big star by having someone finally break it – probably at WrestleMania 33.

    So they rather want to keep Charlotte’s PPV win streak despite it may make the fans go hostile, so they put women HIAC at main event so the crowd won’t hijack the rest of the show after watching their hometown girl lost the title.

  • Oh please Ric, we know it was because of you. Stop fronting about it.

    • Robann

      Dead. Exact-fucking-ly.

    • Katniss Everdeen #HungerGames

      WWE has faith in Charlotte that’s why they put the title back on her.

      • Not Divalicious

        That’s not in anyway an excuse
        I love her but she’s done so much harm to the division at this point

        • Katniss Everdeen #HungerGames

          How?. It’s not her fault that Vince and co. wants to put the belt on her. And she’s not doing harm to the divas division.

          • Not Divalicious

            She is. She is hogging all the spotlight. Her whole career since her NXT TV debut and she’s been champ for longer than half of it. No woman ever has been overpushed and shoved down our throats to this point. And it is nepotism because up until April Charlotte was still horrible on mic and was a spot monkey who can’t sell for shit in the ring. Yes she’s improved but she’s not good enough to warrant being champ for the whole year besides exactly like 53 days. No one is able to go over with her around. No one besides Sasha who is also struggling at it.

          • Katniss Everdeen #HungerGames

            Charlotte is not being shoved down anybody’s throats. If you think that Charlotte is being shoved down your throat,then stop watching RAW.

          • Not Divalicious

            Oh lol thought I was arguing with someone intelligent nevermind

          • Katniss Everdeen #HungerGames

            You’re insulting me because I don’t agree with you. Grow up because you’re acting like a spoiled child right now.
            The only person who’s not acting intelligent right now is you.
            Go throw your insults at someone else.

          • Not Divalicious

            Literally anyone INTELLIGENT could see that Charlotte is being shoved down our throats and has been for months. Just because she is actually entertaining now don’t make it different. Had she been the best and most over woman on the roster then maybe just MAYBE that would validate her winning on what 13 PPVs winning 4 titles, headlining RAW and a PPV AND winning at Mania in just one year.

          • Katniss Everdeen #HungerGames

            Some of Y’all commenters are ruthless and insults people who don’t agree with you.
            I’m not going to agree or change my mind because you want me too.

            This convo is over.

          • Not Divalicious

            Not like you had an argument anyway literally all you do here is post simple statements without backing them up and expect them to pass off as facts.

          • Katniss Everdeen #HungerGames

            Bye.

          • Windyhawaii

            i dont even know why you’re here when all you do is state your opinion and never give any evidence to back any of it up, then put the victim card on yourself and act all innocent.

          • Sydney Queensland

            You’re trying to make this girl leave?. You’re the one who is bullying her for no reason. Leave the girl alone. Dont be surprised if she blocks you.

          • Windyhawaii

            umm how was that bullying? im stating what everyone else is lol, if you’re trying to be the knight in shining armor then sorry but you looked stupid doing it

          • Sydney Queensland

            You’re the one who’s Looking STUPID. And you’re the bully. You’re looking like the bully right now. You stupid idiot.

          • Windyhawaii

            lol, and how was i a bully yet again? i will say what i said before. Did i insult her in any way? no, did i ask for her lunch money? no, did i yell at her and say shes this dumb person who talks nonsense? no. So how in the fck was i bully? by stating that she has gone around stating her random opinions as if they were facts and getting mad at people for trying to correct her is being a bully to you the you’re even more WOW then i already think, i dont want to call you dumb though because you seem 12 from the way you comment and act

          • Sydney Queensland

            See you’re insulting me again. Youre acting like a total B to people who don’t agree with you. She was stating her opinion like anyone else?. You’re the one with the problem. I’m not 12 so you go somewhere with that.
            Like I said before you’re nothing more than a bully who needs a taste of your own medicine. She should block you forever.

          • Windyhawaii

            lol, im done talking to you. You clearly dont know the difference between a bully and a normal person responding to someone. I wasn’t insulting you either, i said i was trying not to since you were acting like a total dumbass. Anyone with a brain could see it

          • Sydney Queensland

            ONCE AGAIN you’re insulting me. And again you’re acting like a total B that’s all you can do is throw insults.
            Like I said you need to change your attitude and how you talk to people

          • Windyhawaii

            that time i insulted you for acting like an idiot which is exactly what you’re doing now. I dont need to change anything because i know i dont need to, you just need to not be so sensitive and settle your tea kettle

          • chrissi calvert

            3 x womens champ & 1 x Divas champ within a year, unbeaten in PPVs, created history 3 times. Yeah Charlottes really not being over pushed or shoved down our throats then.

          • Michael Boucher

            ITS ALL FAKE AND FIXXED YOU PEOPLE NEED TO GET SOME FUCKING LIVES PUT DOWN THE REMOTE TAKE THE FAMILY OUT TO DINNER TAKE TINE TO BREATH THEY ARE ALL ACTORS THAT AINT SHIT WITHOUT VINNY MAC

          • chrissi calvert

            I think you’ll find the word you’re looking for is scripted.

        • Anthony Gutierrez

          I am the biggest Sasha fan but Charlotte has done wonders for Womens wrestling as well as the Womens Title. She is one of the hardest workers, and literally only has 3-4 years of experience

          • Not Divalicious

            She has done a lot of good but she got way more than she gave, I keep hearing the Horsewomen did this and that for women’s wrestling but I really don’t any other women’s wrestler besides them benefit. And I am Bayley and Charlotte stan saying this. It’s mainly Charlotte and Sasha who have got a lot though not so much Becky and Bayley but still. Like the fact that you have a girl like Emma with all her talent and potential that has been cleared for over two months now but they don’t know what to do with her. Even when Sasha was injured after Summerslam instead of bringing her back to have a feud with Charlotte that would make a lot of sense they bring up Bayley instead. It’s like they really are just burying all these other women on purpose.

          • Robert Thompson

            A womens tag team division needs to be created. The WWE Divas are excellent in tag team matches. This way everyone can sharpen their skills. Creating feuds that revolve around only a few Divas isn’t really giving every woman on the roster a chance to shine.

    • Summer_Slay#BellasAreOverParty

      Ok hun you are being a little big hypocritical RN, when John blocked Charlotte’s push so that Nikki can be the longest reigning Divas Champ it was OK. But now that Charlotte is retaining over Sasha its simply because of her dad. Why are you ignoring the fact that Charlotte is legit one of the best female superstar in WWE. She is at the exact same level as the AE women. Maybe Vince sees her as the better of the two women and thats why he wants to push her instead of Sasha. Charlotte has the wrestling skills, the attitude and the background of a champion if i also had to pick one of them I would pick Charlotte as well.

      • Lmao. As if Cena had any power over Ric. Charlotte has done more in one year than Nikki has done in her whole career. The booking shows you that.
        She may be good now, but she was pushed when she was one of the worst and inexperienced in the division and it was obviously because of nepotism.

      • Samantha Monk

        Maybe they’re telling a story of Charlotte Undefeated in single title matches on PPV, until WrestleMania when Sasha beating Charlotte for the title on a PPV will really mean something.

      • Luigi Anthony

        you must be really dumb….. SASHA ALREADY HAD A CHARACTER FROM THE START WHEN SHE WAS HEEL AND WAS WAY MORE OVER THAN CHARLOTTE BUT THEY STILL MADE CHARLOTTE DIVAS CHAMPION……. WHILE SASHA WAS WAAY BETTER AT EVERYTHING LOL THEY MADE SASHA FACE BECAUSE CHARLOTTE SUCKED AS A FACE. IN THE BEGINNING SHE WASN’T EVEN A GOOD HEEL SHE NEEDED HER DADDY TO GET HEAT. THESE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS CHARLOTTE HAS IMPROVED SHE IS NOT THE DESERVING ONE SASHA IS!
        SASHA AS A HEEL WOULD HAVE MURDERED CHARLOTTE AS A HEEL

  • ABC_1990

    If it was a moonsault of the top of the cage, Charlotte had more of a chance to get hurt than Sasha. It seems like Ric wants to paint Sasha as injury prone so bad when she only suffered 2 minor injuries and missed maybe 2 weeks both times she was injured. Meanwhile Becky has a surgery for a minor injury yet they keep the title on her.

    • Anthony Gutierrez

      Charlotte weighs a lot more than Sasha so the impact plus the velocity of Charlotte falling from so high up would hurt Sasha way more than Charlotte

      • ABC_1990

        Depends on how much of Charlotte’s body landed on Sasha

  • Tamina Snooker #Mr.Liv

    They were much better off with Sasha vs Bayley feud with Sasha turning heel because I feel Sasha is much better off as a heel.I like Charlotte but she should’ve lost clean and just took a 2 month break or something.

  • Rocky1990
  • GOD STRATUS•

    I don’t like this one bit…

    • Not Divalicious

      Oh calm down they’re opening doors for other women they have come a long you should be happy with whatever we get without complaining ?

  • Wrestling.fan.from.France

    I understand that it is his daughter but he seriously has to stop with his nonsense and the way he put over Charlotte has unstoppable.. She can’t do it all and let’s not be delusional, that moonsault off the cage has more chance of injure Charlotte than Sasha so let’s not try to portray her as an injury prone (even if her body isn’t the strongest that’s for sure).. It is way too dangerous of a spot for it to be. performed and that is the biggest reason.

    After Vince changing the outcome of the match is another story.. Just some dumb booking that we’ve been used to..

  • TheBoss

    I’m sorry, Bayley is really cute but she’s so BORING. I’m not invested in her at all. I hope the feud with her and Charlotte is really short bc I’m just not here for it.

  • Geek God

    This sickens me this was Sasha’s moment and then we were gonna be able to move onto new ppl but now we’re back to the Charlotte, show, giving her the win didn’t increase heat, it just increased hatred for wwe creative, now I’m not even sure i wanna watch the Raw women’s division, even Trish and Lita weren’t this bad, they make Chsrlotte a complete spotlight hog, I’ll admit, she looked extra strong after wrestlemania, and even stronger after summerslam, now she just looks forced

    • conan_kun

      Yeah, they are killing Sasha’s career with all these title changes, they made her looks terrible after losing two titles so quickly together without any successful defense on TV at all. This does not put heat on Charlotte; it just exasperates the fans that WWE keep stopping and starting with Sasha.

  • GailKimStan

    He also said Charlotte is as good as AJ Styles lmfao he’s so delusional

  • YonceLuvsDivas

    Vince is always screwing things up! I do understand the concern for Sasha during the match so I’m not angry with that. What I am angry about is the fact that Sasha could’ve retained. Why is Bayley being pushed now? Honestly we could’ve wait for it. Barley could be off doing her thing in another feud. Yet they ruin Sasha’s credibility to have a reign as champion. This just doesn’t make sense to me.

  • Edwards1992
  • Don’t Worry It’s Me

    Raw’s women’s division is lacking IMO. They built Sasha up only too make her look weak at every PPV and they push Charlotte too the point where you don’t want too cheer or boo get because you’re just tired of her. As for Bayley verses Charlotte I’m no more invested in this then anything they have going now, they should have put that off because it’s no draw. At this point a lit of people are over Charlotte and won’t even bother with tuning in.

  • Exotic

    Bayley vs Charlotte sooner than later?
    https://media0.giphy.com/media/TZodZr5HJv3YQ/200w.gif#5

    I have no interest whatsoever.
    Clearly the whole plan, right from the start was to have Bayley win the title at some point, with the title match at WM being.. Sasha vs Bayley.

  • Exotic

    I only see the spots being;
    1) Moonsault through the table. No damn way they risking Sasha/her LIFE if she was to jump from top of the cell.
    2) Suicide dive into the cage door?

    • Crazy. #RIPMae

      Probably a spear through the cage door.

  • Not Divalicious

    ?????

  • glassjaw

    If I were Sasha I’d be gutted. Thanks to Vince being fickle and out of touch all that momentum Sasha built over the course of two years has been diminished by dissenters, some even claiming she should retire. Mishandling of talent at its finest, just goes to show the power of crap booking.

    At this point I would keep Sasha off TV to maybe repackage her character back into that of a heel, and in the meantime I might also suggest Sasha consider bulking up a bit if she wants to maintain those high spots.

  • glassjaw

    Dave Meltzer can go fuck himself as well. He posted a particularly streak of drivel on behalf of a sexist fan’s opinion that Sasha should retire.

  • Izzy4lw

    I would agree that this looks like Ric trying to defend his daughter- like I said, knowingly or not Charlotte became the face of Nepotism in the WWE and now Ric & Co. will be doing damage control by trying to paint some bull excuse as to why it was decided to give the title back to Charlotte, and what they’re going to end up doing is further painting Sasha as injury prone, when she JUST appeared in a live event, so obviously her health was not a factor in the decision. Just own that the Flair name is more important than the division, and at least then we can all stop pretending WWE is fair.

    • Katniss Everdeen #HungerGames

      I rarely disagree with your post but this time I’m disagreeing to this one.
      It’s not nepotism. WWE has faith in Charlotte.
      Speaking of Nepotism (I know she has nothing to do with this article but Nia is the walking definition of Nepotism).
      If it wasn’t for The Rock she wouldn’t be hired by WWE. And she wouldn’t have been put on the main roster so fast.

      • Izzy4lw

        I get that they have faith in Charlotte, and I know that she can deliver in a match- none of that is up for debate.

        The issue is, if any woman is as capable at carrying the title (meaning they’re equal or superior in the realms of Wrestling, Promo skills, being ‘over’ with the audience, and look) than it would be Sasha Banks. Their in ring skills are pretty neck and neck, Charlotte is the superior one on the mic, and Sasha Banks is hands down the most over woman in all of WWE right now with the live audiences. There was no reason to take the title from Sasha, and with the storyline, it made sense that Sasha would get the win. However, Charlotte was once again given the title in a move that made no sense at all.

        Charlotte got pushed and hired because of her name – she won the NXT championship when she was still terrible on the mic and only decent in the ring; she won the Divas title with no character and no promo ability, and though now she’s come into her own, she’s gotten yet another chance to hold the title which came at the expense of Sasha. I’m a fan, but even I can see that Charlotte is unfairly favored.

        • Katniss Everdeen #HungerGames

          Tamina, Curtis Axel, Bo Dallas, Ted Dibiase. Are from famous families and they didn’t get pushed to the moon.

          • Izzy4lw

            they were not a Flair, who is basically best friends with the McMahons

    • Bryskers

      Charlotte has obviously been overpushed, but I’m not sure if the nepotism is that much of a factor in the decisions that were made. I don’t think Vince planned to make Sasha retain, then, the day of the event, woke up and thought : “omg no Charlotte should win ’cause she’s a Flair”. I may be wrong, but I see a lot of ppl screaming at nepotism without considering the circumstances of her title wins.

      Yes, Charlotte is already a 3-time Women’s Champion, but let’s not forget that her title win at Summerslam was not supposed to happen in the first place, so there’s that. Also, it is no secret that Sasha would have won at ‘Mania if the match was one-on-one with Charlotte.
      Also, it is known that Vince thinks Sasha is like Daniel Bryan and knows only one speed, maybe he doesn’t think she’s gonna stick around too long if she continues to wrestle the way she wrestles, and thought that, in the long run, making Charlotte win the first ever HIAC match is the smartest option, since she has been so reliable.

      Now, there are reports stating that the plan is still to do Bayley VS Sasha at WM for the title, but due to the lack of depth of their roster, they wanted to make the rivalry between Sasha & Charlotte last a little longer so that everything would fill until ‘Mania (Charlotte feuding with Bayley now, Sasha returning, win the title once again and follow with the Sasha/Bayley program). But it’s hard to tell since other reports says that the undefeated PPV streak of Charlotte will go on until WM when she’ll lose the title. So we’re pretty much in the dark.

      I know my post make it seems like I don’t believe in Nepotism, but that’s not what I’m saying : her name obviously holds her in high regards and helped her a lot, but I have difficulties believing Ric went to McMahon and asked him to make Charlotte champ again. I think there’s more to that decision (as wrong as this decision is) that we believe.
      It was not fair when rumours said Nikki only became longest reigning Diva champion because John Cena intervened, And I don’t think it’s fair now.

      • Luigi Anthony

        there are rumors saying charlotte will keep the title until wrestlemania….
        and will face aj lee or bayley
        and sasha will be out for 3 or more months

  • Rainee Toneme

    Ultimately, Charlotte won because it was a historic match, which guarantees her a spot in the HOF, because she’s a FLAIR. She would not have the spot she is in if she were not a FLAIR.

    • Katniss Everdeen #HungerGames

      Nepotism has nothing to do with it.

      • Rainee Toneme

        I keep seeing that statement. I would even agree with it, if Charlotte didn’t have three title reigns, while more deserving ladies have none and are not being pushed. Sasha should have won this match. She lost it because they wanted a Flair to have that historical win in the history books.

        • Katniss Everdeen #HungerGames

          Y’all are acting like Charlotte books her own matches and have a say so in what goes on in her matches.
          It’s not her fault that Vince and co wanted her to win the match.

          • Rainee Toneme

            You do realize you just agreed with me. They wanted her to win because she’s a Flair. I don’t blame Charlotte herself: it’s the company. Also, I imagine if the all the superstars booked their own matches and created their storylines, we’d get a far better product than the drivel they give us.

          • Katniss Everdeen #HungerGames

            I didn’t agree with you.

          • Rainee Toneme

            You just said “It’s not her fault that Vince and co wanted her to win the match.” That’s what I’m saying.

          • 3???????

            lol don’t even waste ur time clearly that must be a child behind that profile

          • Rainee Toneme

            But they did agree with me.

          • Katniss Everdeen #HungerGames

            You have to be a child because that person don’t agree with you. Grow up and stop complaining about what you can’t change.

    • Cameron’s Beatdown

      I think Charlotte is getting a lot, but she honestly does deserve it. She’s the most solid worker in the women’s division and she’s a work horse. It’s not fair to say she doesn’t deserve to be the go a point of the division. Yes I think Sasha should have retained, but I’m not discrediting Charlotte.

    • Cameron’s Beatdown

      I think Charlotte is getting a lot, but she honestly does deserve it. She’s the most solid worker in the women’s division and she’s a work horse. It’s not fair to say she doesn’t deserve to be the vocal point of the division. Yes I think Sasha should have retained, but I’m not discrediting Charlotte.

  • Katniss Everdeen #HungerGames

    For future reference. Please don’t insult someone who disagrees with you. And don’t act like a spoiled child when no one agrees with you.

  • TorrieTrishStacyLita

    Uncle Ric knows it’s because of him. This was Sasha’s moment. Charlotte already had hers. This is so absurd

  • 3???????

    Charlotte had 4 title reigns in a little over a year

    Charlotte was the last divas champion and the first women’s champion

    Charlotte is a 3x women’s champion in less than a yeAr

    Charlotte mainevented raw

    Charlotte was in the first ever HIAC match

    Charlotte mainevented a PPV

    Charlotte also has 0-14 ppv record .

    That’s called DADDY privileged . Charlotte is a great athlete. But let’s be honest , if ric flair wasn’t her father …I don’t even have to finished that statement .

    • Rainee Toneme

      PREACH!!!

      • 3???????

        It’s frustrating she set like 6 records that she will keep forever because Wwe wants her to be the “first”

        • Rainee Toneme

          Exactly. But it’s not nepotism!

    • Katniss Everdeen #HungerGames

      No it’s not Daddy privilege.

      • 3???????

        Ur clearly delusional

        • Katniss Everdeen #HungerGames

          Call me what you want.

          • 3???????

            I just did

          • Katniss Everdeen #HungerGames

            Call me another name im waiting.

    • Wrestling.fan.from.France

      Not say that her name didn’t play a part.. But are we still up to this? Charlotte has been the performer of the year.. She’s grown to be a phenomanal performer. She earned everything she got so please..

      • 3???????

        Lmao earned? Seriously? She got a push as soon as she debuted , her team won at survivor serious and a month later she was champion . And she was by far the worst between her Sasha and Becky at the time

        • Windyhawaii

          *summerslam

          • 3???????

            Thanks

      • Not Divalicious

        She didn’t earn everything not really. When they put the title on her in the first place she was horrible on mic and barey decen in the ring. Sure she improved but improvement came by the time she was already first women’s champion. She didn’t deserve a lot of the stuff she got no matter how entertaining she is now. And she is entertaining now compared to how she was before but she still isn’t the best of the division.

    • Boo Dallas

      Ted DiBiase Jr., Cody Rhodes, and Curtis Axel have daddies as big as Charlotte’s yet they were all poorly used despite being great wrestlers. Being generational wrestlers does not mean they will get priviledges. Try to tell that to Natalya. WWE sees in Charlotte what they saw in Randy Orton.

      • Not Divalicious

        No one is as big as Flair

        • Not Divalicious

          No one you mentioned*

        • Boo Dallas

          Whether someone fails or suceed in WWE it depends how WWE sees and seize the potential in an individual. Charlotte might as well be the lovechild of Macho Man and Sting but if WWE won’t see potential and have trust in her she might as well be a jobber. David Flair has failed in WWE despite sharing the same genes as Charlotte and Ric, it’s because he didn’t have the It factor that Ric and Charlotte have. Bob Orton was just a low card guy but Randy Orton is most decorated generational wrestler of this millennia, yet people who have much more big time fathers that Bob Orton are heavily underutilized.

          • jcott3

            Did David even make it to the WWF? I know he was in developmental for a while after WCW folded and they did an angle in 2002 where the Undertaker went down and beat him up as part of the build-up for Flair vs. Taker at WM 18, but other than that, I don’t remember him ever getting called up.

      • 3???????

        None of their fathers were as huge as ric flair …and Bret hart was way more popular than Natalya father

      • Raekon

        All of them were Champions at some Points in the wwe though.
        The only one that never was and got mistreated her whole Career is Tamina so far.

        • Boo Dallas

          Tamina sucked in the ring, she has yet to deliver a decent match. They attempted to push her for contendership on multiple occasions against Beth Phoenix, Kaitlyn, and Paige and she gave those three the worst title matches in their careers because Tamina sucked in the ring, blackhole of charisma, and the most cringeworthy superstar on the mic. She wasn’t mistreated, she just didn’t have what it takes to be someone to invest push on because they did many times and ahe just keep on failing to deliver. Just becuase someone did not held a title doesn’t mean they were mistreated, there’s just a lot more people deserving. Would you really like to see Tamina hold a title over women who are better talents? But then agaib everyone from the entire women’s roster are better talents than Tamina.

          • Raekon

            Very wrong, all her so called “pushes” were filler feuds to win time before the planned feud were ready to be pulled off.
            Other than that she didn’t suck in the ring, she was just booked like that with all the limitations and restrictions that are applied on her. You can’t build up someone when commentary keeps saying they are the strongest in the division, yet you let everyone either pin them cleanly or rolling them up 24/7.
            I saw a Championship match between her and Kaitlyn in a houseshow back then and both were hardcore. The match was awesome and I hoped it will Transition to the ppv title match they had with all the outside spots, Apron barricade, steel steps they used.
            Yet they didn’t cause all these spots were cut out like 85% on the televised match(they only kept one in which tamina shoves kaitlyns face on the Apron letting her drop out to the floor) which like you say “sucked” at the end.
            Tamina had also good matches in the previous NXT as also in other houseshows and Shows like main Event and Superstars in which she were allowed to do more.
            Now that the restrictions are less, I hope they let her join the SD roster and give her a chance to Show more movesetwise and charactewise.

          • Boo Dallas

            Tamina had many matches were she got “time” in Superstars and NXT but she just don’t have the fluidity, in-ring paychology, and charisma in the ring. Saw her houseshow matcches and they’re nothing special, she’s sloppy. She’s the least talented in the women’s roster aside from Rosa Mendes.

          • Raekon

            You mean her heel matches in which she pauses often because she is allowed to do like 2 moves and a signature before she gets rolled up or pinned or did you watch her face matches too? Anyway, if you think like that then it’s your opinion, I know what I saw and it was partially decent and partially good matches she had. You are right that she also had sloppy matches but all the women Superstars had some and some of them even more often then Tamina or Rosa ever had.

          • Boo Dallas

            Again she did have lengthy matches in NXT and Superstars, I’ve seen all her televised matches and dozen on houseshows and she just suck. Being heel only limits flashy moves but that shouldn’t limit in-ring fluidity and psychology but she just fails to deliver. Even as a face during that embarassing fugly attire phase she had, I remember she had one against Melina who is the best worker at that time yet Tamina managed to make that match looked shit. Aside from being terrible on the ring, she’s also blackhole of charisma and possibly the worst mic skills out of everyone. There’s no reason to push her over anyone of the female roster let alone a championship for her as you implied. She should only be used as nothing but a talent enhancement as everyone on the women’s roster are considerably far more superior talent than her.

          • Raekon

            That’s your opinion only so it would be nice if you could stop doing as if you were talking about facts.
            I watched Face matches of hers in which she was totally over and People not only liked and cheered for her but also were asking her to be Champion on social media.

          • Boo Dallas

            It is my opinion just like in your opinion Tamina should be a champion which in I just fail to see how she deserving to win a championship over girls that are far more superior and talented than her which is again everyone from the main roster women. Don’t preach to me about how to be nice when can’t counter the facts. I just fail to see how someone could mark out with her unless they find her lack of talent and looks relatable. I honestly don’t even understand why she still has a job probably WWE don’t want to burn bridges with The Rock. She’s ugly, no charisma, no mic skills, lackluster in the ring, no psychology, cannot connect with the crowd, she’s the oldest on the roster, and just cringe-worthy everytime she tries to open her mouth. I totally understand why WWE would only use her as a jobber, I do not want to wish for someone to lose their job but I do hope she doesn’t return but if she does, she should only be booked as an enhancement to women that are actually worth investing pushes not some sloppy menopausal who looks like a middle age male.

          • Raekon

            Correction: not in MY opinion, in many Peoples opinions in social media(YouTube, twitter among others).
            I just read how People liked her face run saying she should be Champion (it was in 2012).
            Your respectless comments and the way you are trying to bring your points across marking them as “facts” which they are not shows how bad of an attitude you have.
            Calling these women names, saying they are useless only because you dislike them shows additionaly that you have no clue about the Business and only care about what you see on tv, ignoring the reasons why someone is booked like them or immediately applying it as “not worthy, because too ugly” (childish, immature comment to say the least).
            The comment about burning bridges with Rock is equally dumb cause he has nothing to do with it.
            Tamina and Rosa are hard workers and nice persons in real life which the wwe appreaciates. No matter how long they are used as Jobbers, getting watered down and limited, they don’t complain.
            They are pulling through and doing their Jobs the way they are asked to.
            Yeah Candice is awesome and I would love to have her on the roster (even she will get limited on her moveset like everyone else).
            Asking people that are working lots of houseshows, charity Events, signings among other stuff in the background so your “worthy ones” have more time to be on tv, to get released won’t help your “worthy ones”, it will rather cost them tv time among other things.
            A closeminded person like you however can’t think as far so have fun bashing female talents you don’t like only because they don’t appeal to you.

          • Boo Dallas

            I’m done, it’s not worth it talking a dumbfuck like you. I couldn’t careless about being nice, go cry me a river. You gotta be a delusional fuck is you think Tamina should be a fucking champion with all the far superior talents on the roster. End of story.

          • Raekon

            And once again you say I said she should be Champion which Shows that you can’t even read properly. On the top of that you Keep doing as if your opinions are mere Facts and that everyone has to aknowledge them or they are the names you keep calling me. Selfish. Immature and Childish behaviour nothing more and nothing less. Goodbye!

          • Boo Dallas

            LMAO how ironic about you moaning about childish behavior whe that’s all you’ve done. Yeah I actually care about wrestling quality if you settle for a trash like Tamina that’s your choice. I feel terrible for your taste in wrestling. Goodbye as well.

          • Raekon

            Go back and read everything we wrote and tell me WHERE I was childish? You kept calling me, female wrestlers like tamina and other people names which is VERY immature to say the least. Alone the fact that you are calling someone trash shows what type of Person you are and that’s definately not a good one. You shouldn’t feel terrible about my taste in Wrestling (which you have no clue about to say the least) but rather feel terrible about the way you act and what you write here.

          • Boo Dallas

            LMAO the fact that you can’t clearly see the flaws and all the hypocrisy in your own posts typical ignorant IWC mark who feels sorry for someone just because they’re not always gets pushed. You’re crying like a whiny little bitch that you are about how offensive I came off yet can’t see how bitchy you are. No wonder you fail to see Tamina’s failure. You are pathetic little bitch.

          • Raekon

            Your little kid delusional self, obviously think that everyone is way too dumb around here do understand how you try to say others are bitchy when they are not only to justify your out of place behaviour. Grow up and welcome to my blocklist!

          • Boo Dallas

            LMAO just goes to show you’re pathetic weak ass whiny bitch. Go cry in a corner.

  • Rainee Toneme

    Even if Sasha was injured, she still could have won the match (by dq, interference, or some other means), got the historical win, and relinquished her title on RAW.

    • Diva_Fan

      She’s not injured though anymore she’s wrestling at Live Events after Hell in a Cell they just feared something might happen to her in the match

  • 3???????

    I had a feeling Sasha would lose when last week Wwe advertised Charlotte on a talk show, like why do u have the former champion doing talk shows and not your current?

  • 3???????

    I’m frustrated , I’ve been rooting for Sasha since her return at the royal rumble and since then all they did was destroy her character and her momentum , I just wanted a successful reign from her

  • Jay

    The match sucked.
    Let’s all move on.

    • Diva_Fan

      Well it didn’t suck it was great just the wrong outcome happened !

  • glassjaw

    Ric Flair going on record to confirm WWE’s supposed doubts in Sasha’s ability is also a bit of a dick move. Be gracious your prodigal daughter won and move on.

  • Diva_Fan

    It’s time for Vince to step down now he clearly dosen’t have a clue on how to book the whole of WWE let alone the Women’s division !

  • Anthony Gutierrez

    Sasha is not injured and she wrestled last night at a live event.
    Like Ric said, Vince is the one who makes all the decisions and it sucks that was done this way. Meltzer also reported the win had nothing to do with streak, since the streak was not planned, it just sort of happened. That was Sasha’s moment, and after she had to drop the belt after SS due to injury, the company really shouldve given her that moment. Besides being the only woman to beat Charlotte for the title, she should’ve been the woman to break Charlotte’s streak. Charlotte has this immense list of accolades and Sasha really doesnt when you compare the two. I just hope Vince realizes ONCE AGAIN just how much he dropped the ball. First WM and now HIAC, both times Sasha shouldve went over and the fans deserved a feel good moment. Her entire hometown came out to see her and no other person got the reaction she did that, why not give them and her that moment that she’s never had. Hell i would’ve been okay with her dropping the title a few weeks later if it was absolutely necessary to put the title back on Charlotte for storyline purposes but dammit, this just makes no sense.

    ALso, im glad the HIAC spots were pulled. I feel like the spots they did were great as is, especially the chair and the table spots. What would’ve been great would have been for Charlotte to go half way up the cell and do a moonsault on the table but have Sasha move and Charlotte goes thru the table, but if the plan was for her to do it off the cell and onto Sasha, hell no, im so against. Sasha could easily break a rib or have a sternum injury based solely on how much Charlotte outweighs her

  • SummerNoChill

    What so now it’s Bayley vs Charlotte? I really can’t with Bayley

  • GEO
  • Dez

    I kinda thought Bayley was the very best on the main roster once she debuted on Raw, but honestly Charlotte has basically stolen my opinion these last few weeks. Pretty much since Charlotte vs Sasha on Raw for main event match. I think Charlotte is the best on the main roster. I don’t like admitting this…

  • Worried about Sasha and where the company plans on going with her…or if they even have plans. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e975d16339693153158c702ae366c4e696f9c962311c6836300b48d7e71cf81a.gif

  • #4HW / Io Shirai is G.O.A.T

    Vince with is illogical booking decisions… what was on his mind, ugh! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1c80291ef4a324cc145bae6ce2eff3f555e9e162346ae2d09a90510c3c5b5b3f.gif

  • #4HW / Io Shirai is G.O.A.T

    now he should make alexa win to continue with the stupid decisions!

    • Not Divalicious

      and you say you don’t bring down anyone who isn’t a Horsewoman ?????

      • #4HW / Io Shirai is G.O.A.T

        im not shading alexa idiot. im a fan of hers BUT you have to agree her winning next week would be a stupid decision!

        • Not Divalicious

          I don’t have to agree. Maybe it was a stupid decision to put the title on Becky in the first place? It is a stupid decision but if it were up to you we would have got a lot more stupid decisions.

          • #4HW / Io Shirai is G.O.A.T

            so who else would put the title on? Nikki who had the championship for a very long time? Nattie or Naomi who are both irrelevant atm? Or Alexa or Carmella who just debuted? hmmm seems to me that Becky was the right decision…

          • Not Divalicious

            Natalya was barely irrelevant and the title could have been a good way to make instant stars out of Naomi and Alexa. Becky wasn’t a bad option but the title isn’t as credible as who holds it, it’s as credible as how it’s booked and had Naomi, Natalya or Alexa (women who deserve and could have used the boost in their career) they could have been as good as champ. Becky shouldn’t drop now only because RAW already trash because of the hot potato mess and we don’t need that on Smackdown as well.

          • #4HW / Io Shirai is G.O.A.T

            you just said what i said “Let’s have Alexa Bliss win the title so we can continue with the stupid decision” thank you…

          • Not Divalicious

            It wouldn’t be that stupid of a decision depending on the follow up.

          • #4HW / Io Shirai is G.O.A.T

            I want Alexa as champion but not next week… maybe a few more months…

          • Not Divalicious

            If we have to wait a few months then Naomi should be the next champion. Long overdue.

          • #4HW / Io Shirai is G.O.A.T

            The only thing i like about Naomi is her athleticism… i really want to get behind her but she lacks character, let’s see what’s next after Survivor Series…

          • Windyhawaii

            she didnt lack character as a heel thats for sure

        • Super Mateo

          Having Alexa win the title may not be the best decision in my opinion, but doing something like cutting Becky’s promo time because you don’t like her accent would be a stupid decision.

  • Mark

    I can kind of understand Vince’s way of thinking. Sasha has already been injured twice. Charlotte has competed in very physical matches for dozens of PPV’s now and is fine. Her mic work has also gotten so good and she’s proved to be a sturdy, reliable champion. But if they were so worried about Sasha getting injured, then why give her the biggest bumps to take? Through a table onto her spine, sidewalk slammed onto the chair with no way of protecting herself, thrown upside down into the steel cage, etc. I felt like Charlotte should have taken some big bumps too.

  • Not Divalicious

    Charlotte has improved and she’s really good now but with all the improvement she’s only earned less than half of all the accolades she was given. I mean obviously she doesn’t book herself and she really tries hard (probably the hardest and that’s why i respect her) to earn all that she gets but the fact is most of it she doesn’t deserve

  • Divo’s Champion

    Maybe because Sasha Banks has been injured a number of times already. I was hoping for a better finish to the match though.

  • Robann

    I feel like the only Horsewoman right now who deserves ANY kind of push is Becky. Just because she literally just started getting what she deserved this year. Charlotte has had a good year, but you would be lying out of your ass if you said her Dad had no type of influence in her push whatsoever, even down at NXT. Sasha and Bayley have been praised like they’re the second coming of Christ (when in reality, Charlotte and Becky are the better wrestlers, period.) because of the time they had down at NXT, and how they had the chance to have a REALLY good feud. Idk, I can deal with Becky because she isn’t getting shoved down our throats but she’s still over as hell.

    It’s time to give some of these other women a shot. They’re so focused on their “indy darlings” that they’re not even recognizing the talent that’s been on their roster for YEARS. Smfh.

  • HOLLA

    Honestly Ric I would just stay silent on the match

  • Rhawk

    Well at least even he can admit the finish was the wrong one.

  • FOXY & FLAWLESS BOSS

    I have a genuine question…. Why is it that it’s Sasha that always has to do the crazy spots so far as being the one to take the impact? Like I just don’t get it… I’m not knocking Charlotte in the slightest I’m just genuinely asking why is it always Sasha going through the table, going through the chair, getting dropped from the top rope, etc. etc. If it’s becoming such an issue that her health is changing spots in matches has no one stepped back to ask why she always has to be the one taking the bump? Would there be the same health risk if she frog splashed Charlotte through the table instead of asking Charlotte to moonsault her through it?

    • Louis

      It’s a good question, I get why you would ask that because I have been thinking the same, I was even thinking that back in their NXT days, I remember sasha taking crazy bumps! I think that Sasha is really just a daredevil in the ring, I think she likes to throw herself around and push herself tbh, I get the impression that she is quite strong minded and stubborn when it comes to talking with people backstage about bumps and spots that she wants to do, I think she is the kind of worker that if they tell her she can’t do it and that it is too risky, she will go ahead and do it anyway for the fans, I think sasha is very rebellious, a lot more free spirited than charlotte feel, they both work amazingly but I feel charlotte would be most likely to stick to rules and guidelines and do what she is told to do?.

    • Cameron’s Beatdown

      It’s because of her size, it’s believable that Sasha would be rag dolled where as someone built like Sasha power bombing someone built like Charlotte wouldn’t work.

      • FOXY & FLAWLESS BOSS

        I understand Sasha can’t believably (or actually) powerbomb Charlotte.. I still don’t think that’s an excuse for why Sasha ALWAYS has to be the one taking the crazy bumps (credit to Charlotte for things like the corkscrew moonsaults and such). If anything Charlotte’s size should give more variability on how she can take bumps. Sasha could have suplexed her into the table or, as I said above, frog splashed her. All believable ways to pull off the table spot without it having to be Sasha that takes the dangerous bump to the point where they might scrap it mid match.

  • conan_kun

    Raw women division is in messy booking:

    – Sasha should have won women title at Wrestlemania 32 after she had Wrestlemania Diary but they let Charlotte win instead
    – Keep Sasha off TV for 2 months when she supposed to claim that she was screwed by Ric right away, instead they let Natalya feud with Charlotte with 2 title match ends up stupid finishes
    – Let Dana align with Charlotte after Emma is injured
    – Sasha wins the title on Raw, then loses back to Charlotte at Summerslam when they thought Sasha gonna out with injury for a long time
    – Bayley moves to main roster officially and starts a program with Charlotte/Dana
    – Suddenly Sasha returns right away and gets a rematch at CoC, thus Bayley-Charlotte feud is holding back
    – They book triple threat match at CoC after they originally and officially announced Sasha vs Charlotte at CoC
    – Sasha won back the title on Raw
    – Sasha should have won at HIAC at her hometown to end her program with Charlotte, but they let Charlotte win back instead
    – Seems like they restart their originally planned Charlotte/Bayley feud back to post-Summerslam

    How can WWE expect to book anything out long-term when the man in charge has no vision of where to take things even 24 hours in advance?

  • Maddox

    Bayley is just an average wrestler that has been overhyped. Her most memorable matches has only been matches involving Sasha, people even forget she and Charlotte had a Takeover match and I bet Becky, Charlotte and Sasha could have way better matches against Asoka than her two bouts

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  • vdcvt

    So Ric didn’t want to say anything but said it involved a moonsault lol. Well tbh RAW is just very messy with the booking. Not gonna lie though, I’ve become more impressed with Charlotte than anything and I’m definitely a bigger fan of hers than I was when she first came to the MR. Still a lot of the feuds seem to rely on what previously existed, but it’s not really building upon the story just more constantly reminding what happened in NXT.

  • Derek Williams

    What they need to do is get Nia Jaxx in there against Charlotte. Charlotte won’t dominate her like she does the smaller women.

  • Sunny’s Therapist

    it looked like charlotte was supposed to put sasha on a table setup for a moonsault, sasha would roll out of the way, charlotte would go through the table and sasha would pin/bank statement.

  • Raekon

    Not suprised at all.
    It also explains the akward finish of the match cause I’m pretty sure that they would had Sasha or Charlotte drop down on the set table and break it with the other person being on it. This was probably one of the spots Vince didn’t allowed.
    A real shame though, most of all since it took down the crowds and the Viewers excitement when Charlotte retained.
    Now they will do the same shit with Bayley for like half year probably before Charlotte loses the title or she gets to retain AGAIN or get’s to regain it after she lost it AGAIN thanks to the stupid Vince.
    Shame shit different day in the wwe like many said already.
    No wonder everyone is more interested on SD in the meantime, at least they book stuff more exciting and proper then raw.

  • Timalee

    Vince is really fucking over what could be a really great career. Sasha Banks legit has the potential to be the top bitch in the group. I like Charlotte, but it’s almost Michelle McCool 2.0! And we all complained about how Michelle was getting all these titles cause of relations. Not really a fan of this direction anymore. WWE has screwed over a handful of potentially iconic women, and they’re starting with Sasha.

  • Luigi Anthony

    he is acting like charlotte is wonder woman or something grandpahh byeee . charlotte would have broken her neck acting like your daughter is the best HELL NO.
    vince screwed it up……. lol bitch shut the fuck up don’t act like your not happy charlotte won

  • Cameron’s Beatdown

    This kinda ruins Sasha’s legitimacy. Brings me back to when Charlotte said “you’ll never beat me” in that raw match hey had where she won, kinda hold true though. They look like flukes now.

  • Crazy. #RIPMae

    Scared for Sasha’s health? Then what was the point of having her win the title back?… You could’ve had Sasha get her rematch here at Hell in a Cell as the challenger where she loses. Honestly, this is just a poor excuse. We all know the reason why Charlotte retained is because Vince wants her streak to continue and wants to hand everything to her. You knew Sasha was going to take big bumps in this match so why “change” your mind at the last minute?

  • Marlon Eric

    I don’t mind Charlotte at all. I call it the Michelle McCool effect. Their career is supposedly attributed to a family member or a spouse but the two women legitimately are great athletes and pull off tons of good matches. I can only stomach Sasha calling herself “The Boss” in that weird accent for so long.

  • ChloeMatthews

    Damn lol Vince McMahon is such an ass