It’s Halloween and tonight, the SmackDown Live women’s division are all planning on wearing the same outfit! It appears that they’re all dressing as ghosts this year, and are taking it so seriously that it’s literally impossible to see them in the ring. Gotta love dedicated cosplayers. Way to keep the revolution going, guys!

Anyway, onto the only segment of the night.

Backstage, Becky Lynch talks to the women on the SmackDown Live Survivor Series team, and Lana. She expresses how tired she is of SmackDown being referred to as “the B-show” whilst RAW is the “flagship.” She insists that “united we’re gonna concur, but divided, we will fall.”

After Lynch finishes her speech with “tea” clinks, the SmackDown Women’s champion Natalya joins the conversation. The Queen of Black Harts states how it is a “crying shame” that she isn’t the captain of the team, but it is still an “honor” that she will be defending her championship against Alexa Bliss – somebody that she “ran off” to RAW, apparently.

The champ then says that within every team, “there’s always a weak link.” She insists that this team’s “weak link” is Charlotte Flair, somebody that “fell short” against her. And if the team loses, they’ll know to blame her. Strong words, Natalya.

In a dark match that happened prior to the show, Charlotte, Naomi and Becky defeated Natalya, Lana and Tamina in a six-woman tag match.

Thoughts: It’s suddenly 2010 again and the women are getting less than three minutes of screen time.

Following a night in which a Woman’s title “main event” match as well as the Survivor Series team related match were both interrupted by men, this is a poor decision for WWE.

It is very clear that the women do not matter at all at Survivor Series. They have yet to have good booking for a single match, and this year feels far from different. The entire feud going into Survivor Series is about the men, whilst the two female oriented matches feel like after thoughts.

Throughout the night, we saw the men’s pay-per-view match receive far more attention than the women’s. We started the night off with Shane McMahon announcing his status in the team. We then saw Bobby Rhoode defeat Dolph Ziggler in a Two out of Three Falls contest to qualify for the team. We later saw Baron Corbin compete in a match. And then we saw Shinsuke Nakamura earn a spot at the show. Yet when it comes to the women, we were given a single backstage segment that lasted for a few minutes. SmackDown cares so little about the women that they gave Rhoode and Ziggler (essentially) three matches whilst the women didn’t even get put inside the squared circle. An entire division has two big matches coming up and we couldn’t even get a decent in-ring promo or match? We couldn’t have gotten a creative segment or even something that showed hints of something big?

The champion vs champion match isn’t looking too good. At all.

If the women’s titles are supposed to feel important, why aren’t Alexa and Natalya cutting promos on each other? Why does the upcoming fight feel like a forgetful contest? Does it even matter? Are we even supposed to care? Clearly, no. Clearly, neither championship is that important as they’re reduced to a few minutes or men interrupting them.

Even if either champion is to lose their title, is there a reason that we’re not seeing them on screen much? The pay-per-view is just under three weeks away, and for the women, it feels like they’re not even on the show.

This is the exact reason as to why ‘Talking Smack’ and ‘Total Divas’ are necessary. The post-show programme offers the underutilized talent to further their storylines, allowing us to care for them more. And the reality show gives the women an entire hour dedicated to just them, making the fans feel a better connection.

Tonight was a poor effort. The week itself was disastrous. There may have been three matches on RAW, but three matches in which two were interrupted by men and one was a squash match isn’t enough. And to follow that with absolutely no relevant or in-ring moments for the SmackDown women is a disgrace. Do better, WWE.

What do you think of this week’s “show”? Did the three minutes of talking make you squee with excitement? How happy are you to see WWE finally give their women the same respect as the men? Let us know your views on this exciting and groundbreaking episode below!

  • I can’t help but laugh at how much of a joke this show (or even week) was.

    • shumiley

      Honestly… Last year’s feels way better. The match itself was trash but the buildup was so good. Best I’ve ever seen. And even if the match wasn’t good, I don’t think this one is even gonna come close. The women never win at SS. Never.

      • Queen of Spark

        You need to see my recent comments here.

      • perceval

        Trish vs Victoria, 2002?

        • Moan of ‘Licia

          Shut up.

          • perceval

            You’re saying that wasn’t a classic match in the middle of a classic feud? Trish vs Lita in 2004 was memorable, too.

          • Moan of ‘Licia

            This isn’t rocket science. Stop acting all corny. Nobody was discussing singles Survivor Series build ups.

  • YonceLuvsDivas

    I’m starting to be over WWE and there bull! I’ve been a fan almost my entire life and I’m just as frustrated as the wrestlers. Idk who they have as writers but they all need to be fired and Vince needs to retire like ASAP!

    • jbrizzy

      Completely agree I’ve been watching since 2003 and I will take the old school catty diva feuds over this shit. At least there was a story with a beginning ,middle,and end. Today is just good matches with no purpose

      • YonceLuvsDivas

        I find myself watching diva division videos and being more entertained than what we get today!

        • Donny Donny ?

          The NXT Women’s division is the only thing keeping me interested tbh. If it weren’t for their creativity I wouldn’t bother tuning into WWE. I stopped watching before in 2013 to 2016 and I will gladly do it again.

          • YonceLuvsDivas

            NXT almost lost me. Asuka giving up the title was the best thing for the division. Now we can get back to the old days where the NXT Women was killing it.

        • jbrizzy

          Same! Omg 2004-2009 mainly

          • YonceLuvsDivas

            More so 2001-2012. Business picked up when Trish and Lita got there, and and I really enjoyed Eve’s heel title reign. But anything after Kelly losing the title to before Eve’s title reign I try to skip. It was lacking around that time.

    • I hear you, but as someone who’s been watching since the Sable era-what a time, the women have always been given the short end of the stick, there was always pretty much a feud over the title and hench women to fill out a tag on raw, and people teaming up on Torrie on smackdown, without too much variation. The reason why the golden era was what it was was because they had women who had distinct personalities as we do now, and longer matches, but by and large the feuds were paint by numbers. The women always been treated as an afterthought. Always.

    • Maddox

      Vince ain’t retiring in the next ten years lmao

  • Winter

    Some people still need to understand that the only way women are taken seriously is with great matches and great wrestlers, there would never have been a revolution without these great matches. This year the girls who have been pushed are not at the level that is required. And obviously WWE booking is a disaster, like always.

    • YonceLuvsDivas

      Thing is the matches this year fell way off compared to the start of the revolution and last year. Idk what it is but they need to figure it out on why this is happening.

      • Winter

        Yeah I know perfectly the reason but if I say it some people are gonna jump on me.

        • YonceLuvsDivas

          I got your back!

          • Winter

            Well Alexa is being champon for a year and she’s always on ppv matches, that’s the reason.

          • YonceLuvsDivas

            AJ Lee 2.0

          • KellyAJNaomi#Slay

            Oop girl don’t come for QueenJ!!!!!!

          • YonceLuvsDivas

            Not an insult. AJ was great and all. But she was all the focus of the division which made the writers lazy towards the other girls.

          • KellyAJNaomi#Slay

            True I’m an AJ stan but tbh they only focused on building her up and not the next person who was gonna take the title like they should’ve then they needed an NXT call up to take the title further burying the Division

          • YonceLuvsDivas

            I shade AJ but it’s not towards her really just the creative direction they went with her. I love me some April. And I was really loving her when she was crazy girlfriend ruining Daniel Bryan, John Cena and CM Punk careers.

  • Sable’s Bumps

    i love how salty this review is.

    • Queen of Spark

      Just as salty as creative.

  • TheRealest #ItsBossTime

    This review went IN. And all of it was spot on. I don’t think either women’s division has been as stale as it is at the moment in years. Almost none of the characters are compelling or star worthy at the moment on SD, not because of them, but because of the awful booking. Nobody cares about Charlotte and Charlotte, with the accolades they have, being put in pointless tag matches with little screen time. No one cares about Naomi, the former 2x champion, with the little to no time she gets. No one cares about Tamina and Lanas pairing, no one cares about Carmella and her awfully degrading “thing” with Elseworth, and certainly no one cares about Nattiw who has the charisma, mic skills and personality of a block of wood, not to mention her ring skills are on that path as well.

    Like the reviewer said, do better Smackdown. Give these women characters, storylines and ring time that will make people CARE. Stop talking about a damn revolution until you actually start proving it.

    • Jaded

      Someone get the title off borettie

    • Jo9834

      So spot on, its like the majority of the creative ideas they have going on, are really uncreative, boring and bland

      Natalya needs to never see another title reign at this rate, she’s boring AF AND disappointingly dry in the ring. She hasn’t had a standout match in years.

      Charlotte needs to be booked like an actual Main Event talent again, she hasn’t delivered any iconic promo’s or great in ring matches this year, Smackdown has wasted her.

      Becky and Naomi were so over at one point, and now NOTHING, Nikki Bella was always featured in some storyline so its suspect of the writers not to do the same for these two.

      Carmella needs to Valet and call it a day, she brings the quality of matches down.

      Lana and Tamina need to split, its not working because Tamina is horrible in the ring after all these years.

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    • IconicTrio

      I find the Ellsworth-Carmella thing really grotesque too, glad you pointed it out… lets be honest the same people who wouldn’t take issue with it would bitch so hard if it was being done TO Carmella rather than by her.

  • Smackdown & Raw were real baldheaded this week. I didn’t even know it was a segment cause I left my room for like 5mins

    The trash talk Nattie gave i was here for and Becky rallying the troops https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6f833358aeff100abff7d4cb5213fbe70218bba1c567adce78aa74cadcc94241.jpg

  • trishlita721

    Its been 2010 for a while wwe just throws in a ladder or main event match to distract you from complaining.

  • jbrizzy

    I told yall the current WWE product is trash. Quantity over quality for sure. Look at everyone leaving. I’ll take the old school diva feuds over this shit. No storylines what so ever

  • conan_kun

    Since there’s only 6 active women excluding Lana to be Tamina’s manager, 5 of them to be on Survivor Series team and 1 of them to compete champ vs champ, if SD women made a deal for not fighting each other on TV before Survivor Series, not counting dark match and live events, in order to band together and focus on Survivor Series match, then at least make a little sense for no women match in the next 2 weeks.

    Tea Generation X added in a few members with hand gesture known as Tea Sweet
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/39f2fa37641a2cd5d2c9cea895c240abf6bacdca87352b41c9e5c3c81f0d1f18.gif

  • MK126

    Since theres no Total Divas discussion going on can we just discuss how Natties persona here needs to be her persona on SDL! Plus there was a wild Cherry sighting which was a surprise

    • YonceLuvsDivas

      I was actually gonna start a topic on TD.

      • MK126

        DD is lackin lately

        • YonceLuvsDivas

          #BringBackOldDD We need the mother Melanie to comeback and claim her site.

          • MK126

            All the old writers left right?

          • YonceLuvsDivas

            Pretty much as the years go by

          • Maddox

            And Cryssi

  • Queen of Spark

    We LOVED SDL because of how they’ve treated the women on the first draft. Even Eva had a couple good moments (Don’t lie). Everyone was literally doing something, whether in matches, promos, brawls, etc. Every single woman had character development (Even liked the ‘pipebomb’ Nattie delivered to Nikki). Remember that PPV where there was three matches? Man, I wanted that SDL to be in the present.

    What’s happened? (BGC 11 Tanisha’s voice at the reuinion)
    https://78.media.tumblr.com/2f49b50ca2d181ec9172195a7664749b/tumblr_inline_o9o8ke6Qx41u3icub_500.gif

    • Jaded

      Alexa left

      • Queen of Spark

        And Charlotte arrived. It shouldn’t have mattered.

        • Robann

          Exactly lmao

  • Rodney Holston

    If this was 2010 there would’ve been at least a Diva’s Halloween Costume Battle Royal™ to look forward to.

    • Jorge Hernandez Moran

      Ill be honestly i miss those they were fun

  • Queen of Spark

    Let’s see what’s happeked to the women who are still on SDL

    Carmella has been an afterthought when she was a face on this roster, until she unexpectedly turned heel against Nikki Bella. That’s when her queen lever increased ten fold. Her promos were explosive, shady like Alexa. As for in ring, she’s progressed well when she can. Now, she’s money in the bank holder, and what’s happened is weird. She was picking on Naomi when she was Champion, but their feud suddenly stopped once Natalya took the title. Just keep her losing streak so that her cash in WILL be an important moment for her.

  • YonceLuvsDivas

    -Anyway so…. Total Divas wise Nia and Maryse getting in to it is like woah!!! I do agree with Maryse. Those divas back then literally fought for their tv time and etc. If it wasn’t for Maryse, LayCool, Beth, Kelly and the rest Nia wouldn’t have none!

    -And LMFAO at Uso coming for Naomi on her head skills.

    -Alexa is soooo cute outside the ring, Nia is someone I could be around all day!

    -I can tell Nikki sees a lot of herself is Lana, that’s why they got so close. It’s just a vibe I get from them.

    • MK126

      I mean Nia’s question about being in a gauntlet match was valid. Even I had to think about that cause i couldnt remember. Although her comment about “how do you feel to not be apart of the D.R.” was said in poor taste but I could see what she meant like lowkey. Being there for as long as she was and not getting the opportunities that the ladies do now (just like Alexa said Maryse prolly took it as she was rubbing it in her face). Trin and Jon are hilarious and them on the lighthouse was GOLD

      • YonceLuvsDivas

        Totally agree. One thing I will never understand about wrestlers is why they take this respect thing to heart. You pretty much have to walk on egg shells when your a rookie. I get the basics of it, but sometimes it’s like come on. Even Candice Michelle said her first day in the locker room she couldn’t even use one of the stations for getting ready because that was Lita’s spot. Luckily Lita isn’t an A-Hole and came at her wrong.

        • MK126

          I mean thats like that in every job. It’s just that feeling of not wanting to get in trouble for something so small and having it always thrown in your face even though they’re all adults and should be able to handle situations as such. Sadly when you’re a rookie you’re easily disposable so if you were fired theres someone else waiting to be called up to take your spot

          • YonceLuvsDivas

            Ugh this world sucks honestly!

          • MK126

            I feel like that at my job now sad to say. Corporate America isnt all great. Every time i mess up on something i always feel like I’m going to get fired… even without warning just because thats how corporate world works. Same with WWE. A machine as big as theirs needs all of its pieces working perfectly. Once a piece starts to show signs of fatigue or wear and tear its tossed for a brand new piece thatll work better

          • YonceLuvsDivas

            Sad but that’s so true! Trust I deal with the same!

          • MK126

            I think its worse for them at WWE which is sad. Working for WWE is the end all to be all for a wrestler even if they dont admit wanting to say it. Unfortunately just signing that contract isnt a guaranteed job for life as it can be taken away as fast as it was offered

          • YonceLuvsDivas

            Especially for an American wrestler. WWE is pretty much the goal. Indies is pretty much like having a hobby. Yea you go out there and get paid for your matches but your not workin constiently and not really known to people other than hardcore wrestling fans. And you’ll have to travel all over just to make a name for yourself.

    • Winter

      That’s all scripted.

      • YonceLuvsDivas

        Ok

    • Jaded

      Nikki gets close to everyone at some point, Paige, Eva now Lana, how did it go?

    • Women’s Revolution

      Bitch would’ve been hit on site. Nia Jax seems so sweet as a person.

      They need a Total Divas discussion thread.

      • YonceLuvsDivas

        If I was in Nia’s shoes I’d probably blow up on her way more than she did. Maryse really was lookin for a reason to come at her and the bad part is that she went off on her over a simple question.

        • Women’s Revolution

          I peeped Maryse from the jump. She took the Women’s Revolution out of proportion liked you said and looked for a reason to snap at Nia.

          I’d lose my job because I’d slap her, then leave. She’s a Total Diva and now I don’t like her.

          Other news, I’m heated with Maryse, but Rusev is adorable. He’s so caring and I find that attractive. John still got my heart. His romantic dinner was thoughtful.

          • YonceLuvsDivas

            I kind of understand Lana’s frustration wit him yet I can tell Rusev means well.

          • Women’s Revolution

            Yes. That’s ??

            Justin Gabriel gave me the peep what you watch on reality TV because all of it’s not reality. He expose the JoJo relationship on podcast and now I’m trying to be very careful what I watch with TD.

            I didn’t want to comment on the thread earlier because I get distracted here easily lol and I thought a thread would have been made.

          • YonceLuvsDivas

            Summer Rae pretty much slipped up in an interview and confirmed TD is scripted at most times. But what did Justin Gabriel say about the JoJo situation? I missed that.

          • Women’s Revolution

            He just went on dates with JoJo and they never aired them. He didn’t realize she was so young at the time. The producers wanted him to break up with her on TV and made it more of a storyline and they edited a lot to make him look like the bad guy. He was irked by the whole thing for it to be”reality TV”. He was like 90% of the show is scripted.

          • Maddox

            Is the Bellas still on Total divas? Don’t they have their own show?

    • TheRealest #ItsBossTime

      Maryse tried it for sure, bitch was acting like she put on 5 star matches every other week

      • YonceLuvsDivas

        No shade!! Like she paved a way but mainly for promos, charisma and getting over wit fans. But the ring no! Now if this was Michelle MccCool or Beth Phoenix than you’ll have a real argument.

    • Nia may have asked a simple question but think of it this way. This match was advertised as the first ever women’s gauntlet match…so she knows damn well Maryse hasn’t participated in one. That’s petty or she didnt think of it that way.

  • Queen of Spark

    Becky Lynch has been an afterthought lately, and that’s not good at all. She’s become a first draft pick and first SDL women’s champion. Her reign was okay (no thanks to that injury). Her underdog self kept us interested for so long that we still love her. We thought she was gonna turn heel, and most of us fell for her trick (or was it a trick?). Now, she’s captain, and I’m looking forward to see how this plays out. Maybe she’ll be chasing for the title after SS? We’ll have to wait and see. Heck, nothing wrong with having a triple threat (adding Charlotte) to spice things up.

    • conan_kun

      I’m okay if they do Natalya vs Charlotte vs Becky at Clash of Champions, perhaps lead to Carmella cashes in. By the way, maybe some new woman other than possibly just Paige coming to Smackdown after Survivor Series.

  • Queen of Spark

    Naomi had me worried about what they were gonna go for her. I knew she was gonna turn face, but the question was how. I never thought I’d be a huge fan of glow items…..damn you, Naomi. I still play her remix EVERY DAY. Her reasoning for the gimmick made sense, too. Her promos….weren’t clicking much until her feud with Alexa. Their match for that title was their absolute best chemistry between the two, and their characters crossed well (if only Alexa hadn’t botch where she’s supposed to lay for Naomi’s moonsault). A two time champion and….what is she doing now. I’m pretty sure having a feud with Tamina and Lana would be fun. And remember guys….we thought she’d never get to be champion, and look what happened TWICE. I’m still feeling the glow, Naomi!

    • YonceLuvsDivas

      I hope she becomes a staple on Smackdown like Torrie Wilson. When you think the history of Smackdown you think Torrie. I want the same for Naomi.

      • Gerg

        Yass to Torrie!! For some reason, I feel Naomi gives off that same genuine smile torrie did during her run

  • Queen of Spark

    Natalya best be thankful that she wasn’t on Raw, otherwise she’d be in jobber position. I know that would happen, trust me. She hasn’t interested me at first (except that six pack challenge match at Backlash), but once she revealed she attacked Nikki Bella, I finally didn’t fast forward to another segment/match. She may be cringy on the mic, but she was getting better. Her taunts do need work, but she can always walk the walk. Now…..she’s Champion? Hard for me to believe, because I need her to get her mic skills together. Other than that, she’s a robotic champion functioned to just wrestle amazingly and talk terrible. But….at least she’s finally Champion one more time. That’s what we wanted, so let her reign last as long as possible.

  • Malcolm James

    Idk what y’all talk about Smackdown Live was very educational
    Natalya gave an excellent class lesson on how to be a flop champion and cut bad promos

    • Gerg

      XD

  • conan_kun

    Total Divas is one of the main reason that holding back women wrestling, see how Emma gets released and Mickie never wins title again while Alexa and Natalya are champs, Carmella is Miss MITB and Nia on the spotlight when she’s still green, prove that they prefer Total Divas cast to be the main spotlight while Four Horsewomen are more or less irrelevant.

    • MK126

      This is still an opinion as to why the divisions are sucking?

      • perceval

        The decline began when the rule was made that only members of the Total Divas cast could hold championships. That’s not a coincidence.

        • MK126

          Where is that rule stated? So you’re telling me that they gave Charlotte, Sasha, Becky AND Bayley their titles because Total Divas wasnt airing and now that it is the champs have to be on TD? The only current champ on TD is Bliss and thats cause we’re at MITB and this season goes from MITB to SummerSlam so by the time Natties shit even airs im sure someone else is gonna have the title.

          • perceval

            Natalya is on Total Divas, as is Naomi. And, instead of being given great opponents to create memorable matches with, who did Naomi get to fight? Lana, Lana, and Lana of… Total Divas.

            See where it all went wrong?

          • MK126

            No because Nattie is also on TD and their feud flopped. Charlotte vs Naomi was supposed to be the main feud before they decided to throw them all together with TWC vs Becky/Charlotte/Naomi. Char vs Naomi should have continued but they decided that Nattie vs Naomi was the way to go. Now we got Char vs Nattie and with Char eventually winning the title and Mella hopefully cashing in soon creative will have some idea of what to do. TD is too behind for that “rule” to even be thought of. It’s not like when TD first started that we had matches that stemmed off of the episode that aired before RAW/SD. The problem isn’t TD the problem is creative and their inability to actually make something of substance

        • Moan of ‘Licia

          That’s just something you made up. We literally had Sasha as champion a couple months back.

          • perceval

            For a week, where she was promptly buried by Alexa, like Becky and Bayley before her, and Mickie since. Who didn’t get buried by Alexa? Naomi and Nia of… Total Divas. But, I’m sure it’s just an amazing coincidence.

            You want just the Total Divas pushed, and everyone else just there to make them look good? This is the division you wind up with.

          • Moan of ‘Licia

            I want who and what? I’m by no means a fan of mediocrity, and as you can see from my comments you should know that. Your whole theory about Total Divas as champions only is wild dumb. Like as if Charlotte isn’t next in line after Mickie as of right now when the discussion about most decorated women in history comes up. Please take a seat, and don’t get out of it.

          • perceval

            By Charlotte, you mean Alexa unless something changes, and soon. Dunn’s hands need to be taken off the division. He hates women’s wrestling, and Total Divas is his baby. For that matter, both Raw and SD as a whole lately reek of Dunn.

    • YonceLuvsDivas

      Well…. The Total Divas are more popular than the rest… And Alexa, Nia and Carmella was getting pushed before they got on the show. It’s not Total Divas fault! The blame starts with management and why they feel (not just women but men as well) all of their wrestlers dont deserve to be stars. As much as I trash Impact I will say they make their rosters feel equal. I feel like anyone could be pushed there.

    • Jaded

      Total divas is not sapping out creativity from the uncreative .

  • Queen of Spark

    Now the women who were drafted here this year.

    Charlotte is a woman I finally felt bad for. We saw this coming once her PPV streak stopped on Raw. I was paused as to why the championship match between Naomi and Charlotte continue. Is there something wrong with a face vs face match? I had thought she was gonna face Naomi at Summerslam, but they shocked me when Nattie won. To think Vince was really high on her, he allowed it to happen, making Charlotte climb her way to the top. But she’s supposed to be the queen, right? Just saying…..now as for that last championship match, her acting of her leg was great, but that was focused TOO much. There’s nothing wrong with back and forth. Natalya dominating that much made the Queen weak as a pawn. That’s not good at all. Whatever is in store in the future, this babyface run isn’t as great as I expected for her.

    • YonceLuvsDivas

      Charlotte just needs to be heel her entire career. I feel like they don’t know what to do with her as a face. Like The Miz being heel should be her only option.

      • Queen of Spark

        Miz himself knew he hated being a face, and I saw that. Heel is what he’s born with, even though he’s a nice guy and sweet in RL. Same goes for Charlotte, so she better turn ASAP.

        • Joseph

          The fans finally accepted her and now you wanna turn her heel? Her dad almost died the fans aren’t going to boo her. Charlotte as a face isn’t the problem its the booking thats the problem.

    • Joseph

      Charlotte is fine as face not her fault the booking is awful. The fans have a reason to care about her in 2017 in 2015 they didn’t thats why they crap on her and booed her.

      • Queen of Spark

        Look, I’m just saying that she was a true queen as a heel. A dirty Flair, in her blood. But, maybe when she wins the title, that’s when she’ll interest me. I just don’t feel it, okay?

  • Queen of Spark

    Tamina Snuka was completely invisible. I really thought they were gonna release her with her injury history and personal issues. I have to say….she was a STAR on both MITB matches. I had finally noticed her after so long….and the Ravishing whatever you call it is ruining her. It’s good that Lana can talk the talk, but where are they going with this pairing? That’s the confusion that needs to go away.

    • Malcolm James

      She got The Rock on her side she not going nowhere

      • Queen of Spark

        That doesn’t mean she can’t request for a release.

  • Queen of Spark

    Lana went from interesting to….just a manger again. We were worried about how she was gonna do in the ring. NXT Live event reviews had us calm down. As for her PPV debut, it was rather good, and Naomi made her look good. But their continuous matches exposed Lana’s weaknesses too quickly. They see her being Eva Marie level. She’s been limited to wrestle ever since, which is a good thing in order to build chemistry and to keep improving. Let’s just hope she’s NEVER in a title shot until she’s actually ready. I’m sorry, but I’d rather have Carmella as champion than her. She still has work to do, and the princess of Staten Island has been able to have at least okay chemistry with the other women.

    • YonceLuvsDivas

      Actually they need to do her like they did Carmella last year. Not have her do too much in the ring but have her in a feud that’s 1. That will get her over, 2. Someone who will work with her in the ring.

      • Queen of Spark

        Lana could’ve already had beef with Naomi still, but look where we are, now.

        • YonceLuvsDivas

          Right I was hoping at least Naomi and Lana pick back up after Naomi dropped the title. But I guess we’ll have to wait for Tamina to turn on and make her face. Which they need to do ASAP cuz the pair is not going anywhere.

    • Jaded

      Lana will improve more. Every wrestler with a dancing background has ended up doing decently in the ring.

      • Queen of Spark

        I’ve noticed that pattern. Here’s to hoping improvement.

  • YonceLuvsDivas

    So do you guys think K2 and Kaitlyn are really gonna return to the ring? Both of them left the men that pretty much was the reason for them leaving. And they both are young and in shape.

    • Queen of Spark

      In WWE? Not sure, but they do love them.

      • YonceLuvsDivas

        I hope they do. That’s the only way imma get over Emma and Summer getting released. I’m still depressed about that.

        • Women’s Revolution

          Me too. I literally just got finished watching WWE Network featuring Emma and Summer Rae.

          I’m watching Total Divas now and Naomi is so unappreciative of that handsome man she has for a husband.?

          • YonceLuvsDivas

            Child yes!! Naomi better stop playin wit that man and act right.

          • Women’s Revolution

            The man wanted to get freaky in the light house. If that was me, all he had to do was say the word and I’d be ready to serve him.

            Pensacola is beautiful. I’m low-key jealous I’m not in her shoes, I’d leave the business for that man lol.

      • Kelly_Killer

        Kelly is supposedly working as an ambassador for WWE.

        • Queen of Spark

          What does that mean?

          • MK126

            I think if they need her for events and stuff they’ll have her show up. Just being involved with the company in some way shape or form. It’s like how Eve is also an ambassador for the company and she does self-defense classes once a year with the NXT talents

          • Kelly_Killer

            Doing axxess & signings. Plus i saw a clip on twitter from that wags reality where it looked like she was training she was doing her finisher in the ring on some man so hopefully now that she’s done with her sugar daddy, she will return to WWE.

          • KellyAJNaomi#Slay

            I was thinking that too now she can’t have kids for a while so I mean…….

    • Jaded

      Katelyn maybe but k2 ,keep her away from the ring

      • YonceLuvsDivas

        What you talk bout? Kelly wasn’t bad. She wasn’t the best but far better than Eva(No shade to my girl) and honestly she played the role as a underdog face to the T. Bayley could take some notes from her.

        • DayOneISH!

          I love Kelly Kelly but she’s not needed we already have Carmella and Dana Brooke basically doing all her moves.And we have enough blonde bombshells that have already filled her role.

      • Joseph

        They don’t need Kelly Kelly.

        • Kelly_Killer

          We dont need you here.

  • Women’s Revolution

    ? is ??????????????
    #TotalDivaBeauty

  • Women’s Revolution

    I can’t stand The Miz either. I hate I was excited about their bundle of joy. Bitch went home telling lies to her husband. She’s so dramatic and basically told him what she took of the situation.

    Glad, Nia didn’t have no filter and spoke her mind..

  • A?.

    I swear some of you hate on the divas division but it was way more entertaining than this shit? At least we used to have some Halloween fun back then!

    • Women’s Revolution

      Christmas too. Holidays in general. But back then when Diva Dirt was more well written, people complained about those matches and now the Women are somewhat being taken seriously and the Diva terminology and everything with it is gone, people are upset. It’s a no win situation in my opinion.

      • Joseph

        They complain but still watch. Its 2017 we have other women’s wrestling out there if you don’t like what WWE is doing.

        • Malcolm James

          Exactly

    • Damn!

      I missed those Halloween Battle Royals where Rosa is always the first to be eliminated https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/be425b2cf7f70bdfc6e3da3ac816dee9a35a02e1b64390d6d4d9d4326331e015.png

      • Carolution

        she wasn’t always first out.

      • PYM #TakeOverSmackdown

        Her and Aksana ?

  • DayOneISH!

    To be fair when you take away Natalya you only had 6 other women who could qualify for the 5 on 5 tag match and 1 of them doesn’t even wrestle that much and is only a manager so it would be too obvious who the Smackdown side will be.IMO I don’t think it was a good idea to have the champions sit out they should’ve been in the tag match.

    This is why Smackdown needs more women.If they had more women we would see qualifying matches just like the men have.They could’ve easily just thru Emma and Summer on Smackdown and make Emma the “Surprise” 5th member.Hell they could’ve brought Paige back as well.

    How many 6 women tag matches or Carmella facing whoever with Carmella obviously losing are we gonna get? I’m gonna continue to say this till it happens.WE NEED MORE WOMEN ON SMACKDOWN!

    • Joseph

      They need more on both shows in general.

      • carmellsworth

        well theres a shitload of woman signed so i expect the main roster brands to be filled after mania (dakota kai please)

      • conan_kun

        Exactly, it won’t call a division if there’s no at least 10 active wrestlers for each brand.

    • Women’s Revolution

      Yes. I’m pretty frustrated with the division. They’ve shuffled around the Women and it’s just bland.

      I hope Paige return on this trip to the U.K. on the SD Live brand. Summer Rae and Emma could have been moved there too. That would have been more depth and 9 Women in the division. They randomly moved Jason Jordan to RAW for a failure storyline that I don’t acknowledge.

      • DayOneISH!

        Everything on both shows these days is so obvious.They had Carmella lose all these matches just so she can win the Women’s Belt and then have James Ellsworth do all her dirty work helping her cheat to win for all of her title matches so we already know this is coming.

        And on the Raw side Alexa vs Asuka is clearly the plan they want so by royal rumble to Wrestlemania this is pretty much what the women’s divison is gonna look like IMO.Ill be legit shocked if anyone but Alexa,Carmella and Asuka would be women’s champion during that time period.

  • Definitely the worse edition of SD Live! In months, hate that we pass from 3 segments involving women’s to 1 shitty segment.

  • HBIC

    I miss halloween battle royals they were fun.

  • iOwnThatSonOfABitch

    To the writer of this, on Hulu they cut two of those women’s matches out. Totally sucks

    • KellyAJNaomi#Slay

      What womens matches?

      • iOwnThatSonOfABitch

        Asuka’s and Bayley’s was cut

  • Danny?
    • Gerg

      XD I love this gif and so true

    • Kelly_Killer

      Summer and Emma ^

      • Danny?

        I’m still so pissed they are gone

        • Kelly_Killer

          Im still pissed about Cameron (one of my faves) and now that they also released 2 other of my faves, i’ll probably hold a grudge against WWE forever.

          • KellyAJNaomi#Slay

            Me and you both girl

          • Danny?

            Oh Cameron, I’m still so upset she got released. Yet another women who didn’t get to show her full potential. She was improving so much in the ring and her mic & character work was fantastic. She could’ve done so much in that company.

    • Robann

      Dead ass lmao my three year old cousin can write better shit than what they’ve written. Smfh

  • #FlairfortheGold

    So they’re not gonna post a TD thread or backstage info on why Emma was released?

  • perceval

    This is what happens when you make the division just a commercial for Total Divas. The matches have gone downhill, and the crowds, naturally, have lost interest.

  • 3???????

    Throw the whole women’s division away at this point .

  • 3???????

    Better yet , give them their own hour show & add tag titles .

  • conan_kun

    They put Charlotte over current SD women champ Natalya on the poster
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNlum8IWAAAy_ap.jpg

    • Wrestling.fan.from.France

      Maybe it’s an indication that Charlotte may be winning the title before the event? (Wishful thinking)

      • I’m all for Charlotte winning of its a short reign. If they wanna go through with the 4HW at wrestlemania then she shouldn’t be champion for that. 3 women’s matches at Mania is definitely doable.

        • PYM #TakeOverSmackdown

          You’re right that she shouldn’t but now that you mention it…. it could happen.

    • PYM #TakeOverSmackdown

      Because queen

    • Nathan

      IMHO she’s a forgettable champion. Not her fault, but most the SD champion she have been booked badly.

  • PYM #TakeOverSmackdown

    That title needs to come off Nattie soon. Her reign is hurting SD. She really shouldn’t have even been put in the situation where it was up for question that the title would go to her. Should have been Charlotte vs Naomi from the get go. Smh….. Smackdown needs Charlotte as the forefront of the division as queen heel. Nattie isn’t cutting it for me… Nattie really has been lackluster ever since returning from her hiatus during the women’s revolution in 2015. Love Nattie but this is a wake up call that some people are kept away from titles for a reason.

  • Exotic

    They should have booked a Halloweens costume battle royal..
    Ew after they got rid of the term diva, they stopped having fun matches.

  • Aye Mate

    Smackdown continues to be a misuse of talent, a show fixated on cramming as much women on TV at the same time so internet stans can argue that at the very least they get to see their faves “shine” for around three milliseconds each. Still no build up to the cross title promotional match between Nattie and Alexa? Probably for the best, as Alexa would cremate Nattie in a promo battle.

  • Crazy. #RIPMae

    Smackdown needs The Iconic Duo

    • conan_kun

      And Paige. Or Asuka and Paige should be on opposite brand as there’s fresher matches for each of them, like Paige only never face Carmella on Smackdown while Asuka hasn’t face any Smackdown woman on TV yet.

      • Crazy. #RIPMae

        Paige faced everyone on RAW too lol except Alexa and Nia

        • Kelly_Killer

          Asuka

    • Kelly_Killer

      Smackdown needed Summer and Emma! But since even these queens got released dont even think that they will be prmoting any nxt girls any time soon.

    • Organization XIII

      More women is not going to save the show lol

      • Crazy. #RIPMae

        It’ll bring in more interesting and new matches though I obviously know the Iconic Duo won’t save SD

  • Nathan

    Becky does tea time, slight cringe, Natalya starts speaking…. welcome to cringe city! ? what a horrible segment.

  • Gerg

    If there’s no redux of Total Divas but Cherry made a surprise appearance. Kinda glad she was referenced

    • MK126

      I was surprised that they even acknowledge it was her. I thought it was her sister for a second lol

    • Robann

      Really? I’m definitely watching the episode when I get home later…I’m honestly just happy to see Trin and Jon on my screen again lol but Cherry had so much potential. In a sense, she reminded me of a Candice Michelle when she first started actually wrestling and training.

      • MK126

        Ironically Cherry actually had wrestling history. She was an indie worker who went by her real name Kara Drew I think. Her not knowing how to wrestle was part of the gimmick she had with Deuce n Domino

        • Robann

          Really? I had no idea. Just shows how much I pay attention to the indies lol.

          • MK126

            Yeah she’s been around the scene since 1999 and retired after she got the boot from SD

          • Moan of ‘Licia

            She was a highflyer very influenced by luchadoras.

  • Super Mateo

    I didn’t watch a single second of Raw or SD this week for the first time in five years, only checking here and one other site to see what I missed. It looks like I made the right choice.

  • MK126

    Char’s reaction in that gif is my reaction to life 24/7

  • Robann

    A costume battle royal would’ve sufficed in spirit of the actual HOLIDAY this show fell on. Anything match related would’ve been better than a backstage segment that wasn’t even 3 minutes smfh. Looked forward to Total Divas more than BOTH main shows this week.

  • Zay Zay

    wwe needs to hire me as a creative writer and let me come in and shake things up for them I bet the women will get 5 star storylines and matches

    • C Mack

      I wanna write for them too man. It’s my dream job.

      • MyleneCruz

        Same here. I’m a black man as well. We’re talented individuals who think outside the box.

        • C Mack

          We should just brainstorm ideas and collaborate to write some stuff. Never hurts to plan for the future you want.

          • MyleneCruz

            I’m sooo down for that.

      • Zay Zay

        mines too every since 2012 #the dark days

  • Moan of ‘Licia

    Trish Stratus: 7
    Mickie James: 6
    Melina: 5
    Charlotte: 5
    Lita: 4
    Moolah: 4
    Alexa: 4
    Sasha: 4
    Michelle: 4
    Beth: 4
    Ivory: 3
    Eve: 3
    Alundra: 3
    AJ: 3
    and it continues..

    Notice how the current girls are racking up reigns so fast? Back in the days, girls really had to work hard, reinvent themselves or improve to even be considered as contenders for the champions. Now they stay playing tap your it with the title between the same girls. It ruins the prestige and makes the title history look like shit.

    • Carolution

      they just want the current girls to be seen as legends like right off the bat and its sad that todays women have 4-5 reigns in one year like how is that going to be rememberable

    • Jouey

      I wonder why nobody counts the NXT womens title reigns?

      • KellyAJNaomi#Slay

        Cause NXT is developmental the only time I count a reign with NXT is Asuka’s because it broke records

    • Kat Love

      Whats amazing is how Lita only had 4 reigns yet she is the top 2 most popular female wrestler in WWE.

      • Sable’s Bumps

        4 reigns was a lot then.

        • Kat Love

          oh please no it was not. If it were Trish wouldn’t have had 7 reigns.

          • Sable’s Bumps

            if it wasnt a lot then why do all the women from that era have so few? it took trish 6 years to get 7 title reigns, how long did it take charlotte to get 5???

          • Sable’s Bumps

            Alexa Bliss is a 4 times womens champion in what, a year?

          • KellyAJNaomi#Slay

            Less then to be exact

          • Sable’s Bumps

            see. the number of reigns today means something entirely different. 4 reigns back in the “golden era” would take your entire career usually.

  • Can we just get Iconic Duo, Ember, Bianca Belair, Liv Morgan and Aliyah to the main roster please? But damn…that would cripple NXT….

    • Monkey Tennis

      More importantly, what makes you think just throwing more numbers at the problem would fix it? Right now, there’s absolutely nothing to suggest that a bigger roster would suddenly inspire management/creative to start using it’s female talent either better (in the case of RAW) or at all (in the case of Smackdown),

      • I feel like I’ve had this discussion before, maybe not with you but someone else lol. Historically when there are major call-ups there is a renewed interest in the particular division. Divas Revolution. Paige’s call-up. EnD. Right now everything just feels stale. There are no more dynamic personalities within the divisions and we are stuck with the same matches week after week. At least there will be different matchups and potential for better feuds. It’s certainly not a long-term solution, but it definitely has its advantages. But I see your point, not only would it cripple NXT. They can barely book for who they have.

  • Monkey Tennis

    So RAW gives us three meh matches and it’s a very bad night for the show. And it’s honestly like Samckdown creative were like “Man, how can we top that?” So we get a pointless and badly realised backstage segment. And that’s all. Mission accomplished.

    Also, just one note on the Redux above…

    “This is the exact reason as to why ‘Talking Smack’ and ‘Total Divas’ are necessary. The post-show programme offers the underutilized talent to further their storylines, allowing us to care for them more. And the reality show gives the women an entire hour dedicated to just them, making the fans feel a better connection.”

    No. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No. No. No. No.

    No.

    I ain’t that fussed about Talking Smack. Aside from the occasional interview, it’s not like it was ever adding a huge amount of depth to any of the half-arsed feuds we’ve seen in recent years. But with regard to Total Divas… Just no.

    Now, it’s not about the fact that the show is a vacuous exercise in banality with no redeeming features whatsoever. I mean, that description covers all reality TV so fair play. But any suggestion that the show is any way a compensation for or an alternative to or that it has any bearing whatsoever on the actual women’s division(s) in the WWE is equal parts laughable and tragic.

    Total Divas isn’t necessary, least of all in relation to actual women’s wrestling. The show is the absolute antithesis of Women’s Wrestling – It’s an hour of television about WWE performers which is primarily devoted to basically everything except wrestling. It remains everything wrong with how the WWE showcase their female talent and how they ccontinue prioritise them.

    • Robann

      Respectfully disagree about Total Divas 110%.

      You may not be too fond of it, or of “reality” TV in general, and that’s fine. Nothing wrong with that. But what we will not do is act like TD hasn’t brought in a new slew of viewers and eyes on the women’s division, because it just has. TD is one of the main reasons why the Bellas are as big as they are now. Naomi and Jimmy’s popularity increased because of the show as well because let’s be honest, before it premiered they weren’t looked at too much.

      I absolutely agree that it isn’t a necessity to have the show, but it HAS benefited the WWE in a general sense. It’s supposed to show what happens “behind the scenes” and whether you like it or not, it’s been able to show just that, even if its scripted. It’s on it’s seventh season and one of the most watched E! shows besides the Kardashians for a reason…

  • Carolution

    they could have even had tamina squash someone since what is happening with her and lana’s storyline?.
    this segment wasn’t even needed.

  • MyleneCruz

    I kept going on YouTube thinking maybe they didn’t post the women’s match only to find out they had the women dressed in gear to cut a promo. I’m pissed at smackdown. These survivor series match better be the sh*t!!

  • OJ Von Erich
  • Nia…should watch the way she says things. Even in the promo for what happens this season. The way she tells Lana “you don’t need to wrestle” sounds really bad…its not like Nia is the best wrestler