Your Two Cents: Do Long Title Reigns Help or Hurt?

“Your Two Cents” is our interactive feature where we gauge the opinions of our Twitter and Facebook followers on different discussions in women’s wrestling.

This week, we’re asking this: Gail Kim has made history in holding the Knockouts Title for over 200 days. We want to know: do you think long title reigns strengthen or weaken a division? We’ve read your responses on our social media pages and picked some of the best submissions to highlight here on the website. As always, you can join the debate by leaving your comments!

Our Two Cents

Batting for Team DD this week, it’s Steven giving us his personal opinion on this week’s topic:

Steven: In a time where the concept of championship ‘hot potato’ is commonplace, a champion having a lengthy title reign can only benefit a division. While many fans see a triple digit reign of a champion as stale or boring, as long as the company is doing their part by providing fresh and new storylines, as well as new challengers for the champion in question, I don’t see the problem with a longer than average reign. It’s when the title jumps from person to person with no rhyme or reason, that the division suffers.

Your Two Cents

Caylon Knox | I don’t mind a good 4 or 5 month reign, but after that it gets old. You could do that back in the day, but nobody has wanted to see lengthy title reigns since the 90s.
Corey Flynn | It depends who the person is and how long they’ve held the titles. Gail’s reign has strenghened AND weakened it because before Gail got the title, it kept quickly changing hands since August. It went from Mickie James to Winter to Mickie to Winter to Velvet Sky to Gail in just 3 months. But after Gail kept defeating Knockout after Knockout after Knockout everytime the title was on the line, it has weakened the division because I thought her getting victories over Mickie, Tara & Madison Rayne meant Velvet was getting the title back after her first title reign was so short and then I thought they were gonna shock us by giving Brooke Tessmacher a title reign, but neither of them got the belt. Now her title reign is boring and we don’t know who TNA is gonna give a title shot to next. Will it be Angelina Love? Mickie? Velvet? Brooke? Tara? Someone else?
Eric Lecuyer | I believe that it strengths the individual that holds the title, but weakens the division as a whole, especially when the whole division has challenged the champion and came up short.
Josue Guzman | Like any sport, championships and title reigns are meant to bring interest and prestige. While companies like WWE and TNA may book their champions, it doesn’t mean that the individuals holding the title aren’t worthy or talented. That being said, I do believe long title reigns, with the right booking and creativity, overall help a division.

A perfect example would be Beth Phoenix‘s 200+ day title reign where she took on the likes of Eve Torres, Kelly Kelly and Tamina. Not only did it allow Beth to show case her talent and athleticism but it also gave the rest of the girls an opportunity to get some screen time, face/heel turns and a chance to display any new improvements that may have picked up.

@Miss_Diesel | Weaken the division, especially since with this long title reign there is no hot feud for the title at all, seems like once the title reign is gotten into the holder is being built up as a undefeatable person when in fact there is someone that can beat them.
Shawn Robinson | I think long title reigns strengthen a division. If a belt changes hands too often it gives the impression that it isn’t something you would put your all in to acquiring or keeping.
Steve Tilker | I’m of two minds on this one. As it relates to Gail Kim, I think it’s great that her current reign is setting a record. Like Bobby Roode, it implies that the company is backing their standard bearer. With that said, I don’t think Gregory Helms is the greatest Cruiseweight champion of all time simply because his year-long run was at a time WWE gave up on the division. Time and booking will tell if Gail’s run is like Roode or Helms. Good question.
@TriDevilDiva | Totally strengthens it. Especially for female wrestlers. Gives the title more allure and credibility.

And now we turn it over to you…

What are your two cents on the debate? Do long title reigns hurt or help a divison? Tell us in the comments…

Erin
Editor in Chief - Read Profile
  • BC757

    It can go both ways. As long as the Champion is building the division and title for a new formidable challenger, the right job is being done. Gail’s run has been done right because its leaving a gap open for the right girl to defeat her. Whereas Beth’s last reign was too inconsistent, she had a challenger every month but after that it seemed like the challenger disappeared. You have to keep the challengers in the spotlight to continuously build the division, instead of the “one and done” matches.

  • http://ashmultimedia.wordpress.com melon2617

    Yes and No. When you look @ Trish’s year long reign, she was continuing to generate interest in the division as well as build Mickie James as a credible contender, making her moment that much bigger. Trish’s long reign was good for the division as a whole.

    Another good long reign was Stephanie’s six month reign as champion. Despite her inaction, the fans were chomping @ the bit for her to drop it and it was probably the first time since Sable held the title that the fans even gave a crap about the Women’s title belt.

    Reigns like Gail’s or Michelle McCool’s are/were boring and stale because it’s simply a platform to elevate one person. When you’re fed challenger after challenger and they simply dominate them over and over with no commumpance (or in Gail’s case, use dirty tactics followed by a storyline drop), it becomes less about the title or the division and more about one person. Right now it’s about Gail, not the KO’s and we’ve seen what happens when a company does that. Look @ the Divas, they became lost after Michelle left because the belts became props for her, not a way to elevate the title or the division.

    • Jhonmarco

      Amen and lovely put might I add.

  • shannymac

    I think it depends on how the title reign is booked. If the champion looks strong and has a series of competitive and interesting feuds, a long title reign is a good thing. It makes the belt look important and gets the crowd invested in seeing who can finally step up and take the belt. If, on the other hand, someone is only holding the title for a long time because creative can’t figure out what to do with it, that obviously weakens the belt.

  • lucky1now

    it depends on the matches and the story kelly wasnt the best wrestler but her time was something due to her matches with beth there was something there
    if theres no good booking no one will care for the belt

    • http://ashmultimedia.wordpress.com melon2617

      K2′s reign was probably the best booked Diva’s title reign because K2 grew as a performer as well as the feuds all meant something. Brie wanted revenge for taking “Lil B” from her and Beth felt that K2 cheapened the division. While I as a fan was disappointed in K2′s repeated victories (I think the title change should have happened in the second Beth/K2 match), I can see how her reign was booked well, despite K2′s mediocre ability. Beth & Layla’s reigns were/are so much weaker by comparison.

      Melina’s 1st two reigns (I combine them as they were broken up for an hour) were another really well done longer reign. During those 4 months, she looked dominant and the build to Candice’s win was well done.

      • lucky1now

        Exactly each fued the champ has has to mean something not just who’s next

  • http://realxavierlee.tumblr.com Xavier Lee

    My Two Favorite Answers That I Am Standing By Are:

    Eric Lecuyer | I believe that it strengths the individual that holds the title, but weakens the division as a whole, especially when the whole division has challenged the champion and came up short.

    Josue Guzman | Like any sport, championships and title reigns are meant to bring interest and prestige. While companies like WWE and TNA may book their champions, it doesn’t mean that the individuals holding the title aren’t worthy or talented. That being said, I do believe long title reigns, with the right booking and creativity, overall help a division.
    A perfect example would be Beth Phoenix‘s 200+ day title reign where she took on the likes of Eve Torres, Kelly Kelly and Tamina. Not only did it allow Beth to show case her talent and athleticism but it also gave the rest of the girls an opportunity to get some screen time, face/heel turns and a chance to display any new improvements that may have picked up.

  • wl75

    It depends on a lot of factors- who the champ is, whether or not there’s some good feuds associated it with it, how often it’s defended, etc. Gail’s current run is meh to me- there’s not been a really good feud to go along with it. Factor in the number of screwy finishes in title matches-she may cheat when the title is on the line, and that’s fine, but does she have to do it every time? It makes her look weak.

  • LadyGoDiva

    Sometimes when it comes to a certain champion WWE or TNA does poorly when it comes to long reigns but in most times they can be good depends on te feud or storyline.

  • FilmJenkins

    They can help alot only if done very carefully. You can’t just run roughshod over the division causing a merry go-round/quasi-communist “let’s take turns at number 1 contendership month by month” parade of staleness. it buries the talent.

    It’s not Gail Kim’s fault, unless this was a part of her signing bonus. TNA should have kept the belt on Velvet for 200+ days, to even her up in comparison with Angelina’s record of 5 reigns. Also, Velvet could have grown with the title reign and become a better wrestler/promo cutter and marketing superstar. It could have made her first reign very special.

    Also, when engaged in a long title reign don’t have a series of short feuds, have some long rivalries during.

  • Timalee

    I enjoy a long reign, with great storylines. And short riegns are okay as long as the storyline is okay. What stengthens the division is a medium reign which would be a 4-5 month with a good 2-3 storylines…and if you get one good rivalry then one. But some short reigns strengthened the division too. but it depends on who holds it and what is their perpose.

  • perceval

    As others have said, it depends on the Champion, the matches, and feuds. Trish’s 5th & 6th title runs were the gold standard of long women’s title runs. 176 days, followed by Lita having it for a month, then 448 days. It stayed fresth because of great feuds and classic matches, and the best promos ever done by a Women’s Champion, such as “the walking kiss of death,” “Your head is so hard it broke my darn shoe, girl,” & “If you get in the ring with me, it will not be for a lingerie pillow fight. It will not be to shoot t-shirts. If you get in the ring with me, I will end your career, (snap) just like that.”

    And, after two years of dominance, Mickie being the one to beat the Unbeatable put her over, HUGE.

    Beth’s most recent title run wasn’t what it could have been because she’d trash talk, then do nothing. Uncreative couldn’t figure out why Kelly’s Maxim unveiling & Beth confronting her didn’t have the same impact Christy’s Playboy unveiling and Trish confronting her did. Well, if Beth had FOLLOWED THROUGH on her threat to beat Kelly down, they’d have had the same impact. As it was, it just made Beth look like a blowhard, unable to back her words up.

    Gail’s run isn’t what it could be because they’ve overdone the cheating to win. Having to cheat once in a while, like when facing Mickie, is fine, but EVERY SINGLE MATCH? Can’t see get a clean win just once in a while? This is GAIL KIM. She can beat Awesome Kong, but no one else?

  • VarsityBaseDude

    I believe that this depends on the booking. If there are no story lines or not even a peep from the champ ever so often, the reign is for sure going to be stale. Take Layla for example, currently she is the champ, but since they lack pushing her to the forefront or having her on TV, it devalues her and the title.

    Gail on the other hand benefited from the reign for the most part. She deserved it for one, and she got to be the forefront of the division in which gave her time to speak and have story lines. The bad side is having her cheat to win constantly. Sure it’s a win, but it made her reign look weak. So coming from debuting (return) by destroying Tara, she is now afraid of Velvet and Brooke whom are no where close to Tara in terms of talent. Doesn’t make sense. Another issue is the lack of focus on ALL of the girls. They all deserve some mention or screen time. It would make the division a lot stronger than it is now. Glad Gail is the champ, but there could be improvements on how the KO division as a whole is booked!

  • http://twitter.com/BroskiRomano Ryan

    Long reigns help YES! But if its done right. Molly Holly Victoria Jazz Awesome Kong and Gail Kim (1st KO run). They were legit champs we KNEW they could own anybody. And they had great matches to back them up. Trish Stratus was champ for over a year but what sucked for her was that she was champ when WWE was pushing her to HEAT along with Tara n Molly to make room for Christy Hemme and the rest of the DIva Search ladies
    Then she remained champ despite taking a whole summer off. Had ZERO competition. Except Tara Micki n Melina a few times…but the way her title reigned was ended was amazing. WrestleMania in a insane match against Mickie James
    Also Maryse was champ for a long time but she wasnt ur best wrestler and her matches were pretty bad…xept for her her flip which seemed to make it all ok lol
    Michelle McCool. Despite me loving her. She made a great champ but rarely defended her belt due to lack of divas on Smackdown.
    And Gail Kim we know the story…