NXT Redux (February 15, 2017): Double Trouble

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Welcome to this week’s NXT Redux! Last week Liv Morgan managed to roll up Billie Kay in a one on one contest. The Iconic Duo demanded a rematch after Peyton Royce insisted it was an illegal win.

This week the Icons face off against Liv and a partner of her choosing to exact some retribution for last week. Let’s watch the match:

The Icons make their entrance followed by Liv who makes hers. Her partner then enters and it’s none other than Ember Moon, surprise? (let’s be frank, who else is there?)

The Icons look nervous as Ember makes her entrance. Billie and Ember start off. They tie up and Billie gets the advantage before Ember goes through a series of reversals into a headscissor. Ember sets up for a move in the corner but Peyton and Billie double team her. They tag in and out. Billie begins to work Ember over. 

Ember manages to turn things around and make the tag to Liv. Both Peyton and Liv fly in. Liv does her double clothesline, dropkick, bull dog combo before grounding Peyton with an STO. Billie rushes in to disrupt the pin but Ember gets in her way. She then takes out Ember with a big boot. Ember lands outside. 

Peyton drops Liv and tags Billie in. They double team Liv and get the win. 

After the bout General Manager William Regal announces that next week there will be a Triple Threat Match between Peyton Royce, Liv Morgan, and Ember Moon to determine the next number one contender for the Women’s Championship.

Thoughts: NXT takes one step forward and several steps back. It’s a shame we’re back to square one with fighting for time for the women on every other episode. The match itself was a fine outing but nothing to write home about, it’s almost skippable. 

The Icons manage to look strong while Liv looks the most basic here. For someone who has so much more time to develop but is given ample spotlight every week, her outings can be hit or miss. I was enjoying her progress lately but, the way she’s being handled is puzzling sometimes. Liv is primed to be the second or third tier babyface, yet, is meh. Ember’s character is almost the same way but, I’m always impressed by her innovative reversals like the headscissor combo she pulled off here. She’s a strong, agile, fierce worker, the only thing she needs now is depth for her character. 

I also found it hilarious how commentary talked up how Regal considers everyone’s win/loss record and yet puts Liv in a Triple Threat Match next week to determine the number one contender. Seriously? We all know the only person suitable to face Asuka is Ember or Nikki Cross based on their win/loss record. I’m content with Peyton being involved, however, since she’s coming up as the strongest of the Icons. 

Billie and Peyton are on equal footing now, but Billie is the most exposed to losses. Peyton hasn’t been booked too much so I’m excited to watch her really work. 

I was disappointed that there was no follow up to Nikki calling out Asuka. They couldn’t even manage to shoot a backstage segment? I really miss when there were multiple storylines involving various women that moved alongside the title picture. Can we get those back, please?

NXT is still in a precarious position as they try to build up its upper card in the women’s division. There’s barely a mid or low card right now. What I’d like to see is more development of the other women waiting in the background. There are so many more in the division that we don’t even know or see and there are even more girls at the Performance Center, just waiting for an opportunity, a time to shine. 

NXT used to have a place for everyone. The brand needs to get back on the ball and actually develop. The brand can have a strong title picture and competition between the women outside it. NXT needs to be reminded that they don’t have to sacrifice one for the other. 

What did you think of last night’s episode? What do you think about next week’s Triple Threat? Sound off in the comments below. 

  • Montel Porter

    I agree with Stephanie here what’s the point of Carmella being in the number 1 contenders match next week when she just lost this match?

    What happend to Daria? She was on tv for a hot second and now she disappeared and hasn’t been seen since.How many dark matches and live event shows does Mandy rose have to do to play a role in the NXT women’s division on tv?.And people say RAW women’s division is bad this NXT women’s Division is a complete mess.

    • K. W. M.

      since they will now build up ember vs Asuka the next weeks, i expect them to be there after Wrestlemania, when Asuka goes to the main roster anyway.

  • conan_kun

    This can technically count as Ember’s first loss despite she’s not eating the pin, right? Why do Billie not in the contender match instead of Liv when she’s the one pinned Liv, they should book Nikki vs Ember vs Peyton vs Billie for No 1 contender.

    What’s wrong is they booked Asuka too invincible and unbeatable with more than 1 year undefeated streak, even Nakamura has already lost a few times less than 1 year, Asuka should have taken at least one dirty loss long ago already.

    • Ev #RookieOfTheYear??????????

      Well no cause she’s not been pinned lol

    • Cathy Kelley.

      Same, this undefeated streak is really annoying.

      • limfox

        ! And it’s so unoriginal at this point. We see it with Charlotte, Asuka and now Ember. This company is so dull and uncreative at times

  • Lmao NXT is a mess. Billie Kay wins the match but Peyton is put in the contenders match?

    I’m pretty sure Ember and Liv fought who would basically be the next #1 contender.

    Remember when Ember pinned Billie in that triple threat but Billie got a title match while Ember was left off the card? Tragic.

    • K. W. M.

      you could argue that it was Peytons kick that brought the win but yes, it does not make sense. Liv is pinned and is in the Contender match and Billie is not? :/

      • Right? Liv did pin Billie last week but Billie got her back so how come one is in the match and one isn’t? Messy.

        • K. W. M.

          It should be a 4-way because it is also unfair that the team of Ember and Liv can go 2 on 1 on Peyton. Not very fair, Mr. Regal.

  • And again no Asuka. Her booking gets worse and worse. Don’t even know why she won.

    Others needed that rub and her losing without being pinned would’ve gave her the freshness she badly needed but no..

    • Mykiiey

      They’re treating Asuka like how it used to be in the 80’s. You build the contenders then use the Champion til the end. It makes thechampion a special attraction, builds the other talents so the fans can start accepting them, and it doesn’t over do it with Asuka being on tv every week. I like it this way and I wish the main roster did this as well.

      • No, it’s not working. She is the champion and represents the division as one. She needs to interact with them all and not sit backstage like she is now.

  • blondeboy

    Royce has this glow about her lately and I really can’t wait to see her shine she is a star in the making!

    • K. W. M.

      right? She is awesome. I do love Billie too, but Royce impressed more to be fair. Billie is not bad, but she has a lot of work to do. But together they work best. Love both.

    • howie_ruhl

      I want to see her really put her flexibility into action. I don’t want her to overdo it like Melina tended to during her later years but I would love to see her leverage it the way Melina did when she first came to Raw and started feuding with Trish and Maria (ie arabesque like kicks on the turnbuckle, etc.)

  • K. W. M.

    Billie and Peyton improve more and more and are the highlight of NXT every week. For Ember: she may be really good in the ring, but she has no personallity or charisma till now. How do they want to build her up against Asuka? I don’t get the hype anyway. The icons have tons of charisma and are really developing while Peyton for me (yeah i know it’s also fan view) is the star of the last months. She rocked Takeover and she is doing better and better. The match was good but due to it being so short like in diva days it was nothing special. Why not give it more time? :(

    • blondeboy

      I’m really excited to see Peyton going all out in the next few weeks, she really needs to shine and I feel def will, agreed on the match length its ridiculous!!

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    • Cathy Kelley.

      I agree. Billie and Peyton are still kinda generic, though, but they do have charisma. Ember’s character is just so random, like why is she like that? There’s no explanation.

      • Miguel Orona Rodríguez

        Ember has not been used for a storyline at all, just random matches.

        • Cathy Kelley.

          But we are supposed to take her as a threat to Asuka? Lol, you just proved a point there. She hasn’t done anything special other than winning random matches. People just want her to face Asuka because..? Her ring skills? Her finisher? Because that’s the only good thing about her.

          • K. W. M.

            Don’t take him too serious, just look at the way he comments and argues below. Very trollish :/

          • Miguel Orona Rodríguez

            Well the skills is basically the most important factor, unless you want them to wrestle for the belt because of a generic stale character & boring move set. People want to see Ember vs Asuka because is going to be a wrestling classic, both have unique offense & well rounded move-sets. Both have a very imposing presence. What have Peyton & Billie done special? Fail at the mean girl character? Fail to deliver impact with their move-sets? Besides looks, what are Billie & Peyton exceeding at? NOTHING.

          • K. W. M.

            @Cathy see what i was meaning? ;)

          • Cathy Kelley.

            Not everything is about in-ring skills. Yes, it’s a really important factor but you also need to be entertaining. People just cheer her because of her finisher, and don’t call them generic when Ember is just another basic babyface, but she’s supposed to be “mysterious”, yet she FAILS at that too.

          • Miguel Orona Rodríguez

            Well, if you don’t nothing about her, guess what, is a mistery. Trying to downgrade Ember when in reality she’s yet to prove herself (there’s no storyline running for her) unlike Billie & Peyton who have been failing to impress in the ring and are not entertaining at all. Nobody cheers, nobody boo them.

          • K. W. M.

            I warned you Cathy, he is either trolling or has a really weird view of things. Looks like Billie and Peyton fail so much that they easily outvoted Ember and others for Breakout of the year, wich was a fan vote. AS HEELS! Really hope Billie and Peyton continue to fail this much because then they will be Womens Champions in a few years :)

            Especially Peyton failed so hard at Takeover that everyone was saying she stole the match there.

            Watching grass grow is probably more entertaining then Ember Moons character, which is a shame, because she is really good. But when it comes to personallit… :/ She is better in the ring, but Bill and Pey are much ahead of her when it comes to charisma and character.

      • Sunny’s Therapist

        Ember’s character is that she’s a woman on bath salts looking for the missing child that she actually never gave birth to.

    • Miguel Orona Rodríguez

      How are they the highlight of NXT? Are you watching the same show I am? They lack of impact in the ring, pure generic moves that people don’t react to. Outside of the TakeOver match, these two haven’t been impressive at all, and they just don’t play mean girls right, is pale, boring, they are miles down under compared to Ember, Asuka & Nikki Cross (not to mention main roster women). I believe they have talent in the ring, they are not sloppy, their delivery of the moves is solid but their move-set is lacking. Peyton looked fine performing kicks & the widow’s peak but in every regular match, there’s not one move I care about or that impress me. I hope with all the chances NXT are getting them, one day I’ll see them and care.

      • K. W. M.

        No there was no reaction for that big boot on Ember or the double team finisher on Liv, please switch on your sound system :) If Ember and Cross are so much ahead, why is it that Billie & Peyton outvoted them in the Breakout Award so easily? Could it be that people acutally care more about them, because they show charisma and are entertaining, which is why the have a bigger fanbase than the others? While Ember has done…nothing so far…and her character is just plain so far? And comparing their skills of Takeover with the short 3 minute tv matches…yup, seems legit…not. And the main roster girls are ahead? Last time i checked NXT was developmental or was Sasha Banks (who had 4 years there) the same when she started and everyone was saying that she is not really good? Or Bayley? No one back there in 2013 would have thought they would be where they are now. Billie & Peyton are relevant in the show since October and people expect them to be on a Sasha, Bayley or Charlotte level? Wow!

        Or why is it that Charlotte, Bayley, Sasha and Becky all agree on that Billie & Peyton are the next bing thing on NXT? And all four of them keep praising them? Because they have lots of potential. Are they fully there yet? Of course not, because it is development and they need development, which is why NXT is there and so far they do a great job. Can we give them time, like the Horsewomen also had?

        Despite the fact that i don’t like the tone of your comment sounding like “I’m right, you are wrong” or “Are you stupid?”

        • Miguel Orona Rodríguez

          Before you get all salty there because I can see you get too defensive to the point you want to kind of insult me over my point of view about Billie & Peyton. Let me start by posting some facts, one, Billie & Peyton arrived to NXT on April 2015, almost two years ago. Bigger fan base? Are you talking about twitter or the comment section on the website? These women barely get any reactions, if you really want to count that big boot as a big reaction or the finisher (and they aren’t big reactions) then you are missing Ember’s reactions where without character development people in the arena care much more. The same goes to Asuka & Nikki Cross, all of them have less time in NXT and leaving their marks. Most wrestling magazines don’t even take Billie & Peyton seriously because they are lacking. They can wrestle but the move-sets are boring, the finisher is not impactful, the crowd don’t care, and their characters are basic. Typical mean girls and they don’t even play it right. I think they would work tons better as face but I don’t have that faith in them as you do. Unless they impress me, for me, they are at the bottom of the ladder (on NXT they are on the upper card when it comes to women).

          Next week Peyton win the match and gets the number one contendership, let’s see if she shines.

          • K. W. M.

            Thanks for ignoring the arguments i gave, nice conversation :)

            Seeing they lack so much and people don’t care about them, let’s see…they got voted Breakout of they year by the…oh wait…fans…they have double the followers than Ember, Cross and so on on Twitter, Instagram and so on…people constantly ask for their merch to be avalaible soon, they stole the show at Takeover…oh thanks i know they are there since April 2015, i said they are just being relevant since october, before they had a jobber match every 2 months and that was all…getting all this after 4 months…they must have been doing a good job then, when hardly anyone knew them before.

            of course they don’t get the reaction like Asuka or Ember who have been big for the Full Sail audience before they even where there (it’s a smark crowd after all). They do get heat though, especialyl when talking and now also during their eintrance, this is also something that has to develop. You can’t compare this too Asuka and Ember. Typical mean girls or not, it works. They do have a big fanbase for just being really on for a few months now. And try to argue with Full Sail again, which is becoming a bad crowd the last months anyway, they get more reactions than Liv or Aliyah and also Nikki. Also noticed how quiet it is during Sanitys entrance? They start to draw reactions with their fued with Tye now. Just like Billie & Peyton do, eveloping their characters and their current push. This is also a development thing. Or did Sasha and Bayley had these reactions they had during the first two years? Definetely not. Sasha wasn’t even recognized in her BFF days with Summer Rae.

            I’m free for any opinion, you can not like them if you want, it’s just no argument to say people don’t care about them, because it is just not true.

            Ok it was me, i made 20000 Twitter accounts and voted them to the breakouts all on myself :)

            and for them being the highlight for me on NXT: next time i ask you if it is ok. Speaking about opinions and not accepting mine, but as i learned i’m watching a diffrent show…watch your tone.

          • Miguel Orona Rodríguez

            They are popular on twitter, big deal, Nikki Bella had tons of followers on twitter & IG before getting reactions in the arena. That means nothing at all. Nikki Cross, Asuka & Ember managed to get better reactions and to be taken seriously in way shorter time. Is important for people at the show to care, they don’t react at their entrances, or moves. They had their time in the TakeOver match but the match was really carried by Asuka & Nikki getting the most ring work. Yes, they did the Suplex, Peyton did impressed with the widow’s peak. After the match, their reactions are still poor. These are facts, you can rewatch the matches, everything and you’ll get maybe a spot where there was an “oh” but most of the time people are quiet. They don’t get heat, they don’t get cheers. Also Liv & Aliyah are not getting reactions so it’s like comparing them with nothing. Liv is at least getting “let’s go Liv” rolling but not strong.

            If we are going to speak about Sasha, Becky, Bayley & Charlotte. This is easy, the one that struggled the most to get a reaction was Becky but once the spotlight was on her, after that TakeOver match, she was solidified and of course the series of matches they got. Sasha was there for a long time but once she got the chance, she connected & surpassed. I didn’t liked Bayley that much but she managed to be the ultimate underdog & exceeded, people cared for her quick. Charlotte got reactions early on, she gots something in her, the presence is always felt. Alexa was kind of lacking in NXT but she barely got the spotlight, on SD she took the ball and killed it. It’s all about making the most of their chances. NXT is featuring Billie & Peyton the most but they aren’t approaching the opportunity and exceeding. Once they start giving Nikki & Ember storylines, they will be solidified.

          • K. W. M.

            Sorry, but are you a troll or so? You come again with all those nonsense stating it as facts, which isn’t just true. Trying to make them look bad, when they do get heat or reactions during the match. Sorry, but you are trolling or you have some problems with your ears :/ And out of the arguments about their popularity you come up with the Twitter one i gave but, again ignoring the majority of the people voted them for Breakout of the year, which is the ultimate proof: people care about them and they seem to have more fans than Ember or Nikki (which reactions does she have btw? none)

            To sum it up, i’m done “discussing” that with you, because all you do is bring out opinions, stating them as facts with no solid background,and ignoring arguments, just repeating yourself over and over again as your “defense”. In a not very friendly way seeing how you started it.

            The majority here seems to agree with me that they are a highlight of NXT, if you don’t like it: sorry. We do enjoy them a lot. No one forces you to watch them.

            And since crowd reactions are the most important part in your arguments: this explains Apollo Crews, Carmella, Dana Brooke, or the Authors of Pain on NXT…sounds legit :P

          • Miguel Orona Rodríguez

            You are trying too hard to make me believe people care about them. They don’t, any stupid ass can get followers online but that’s not the point here. The thing is Billie & Peyton are not being cheered or booed. They aren’t really getting any heat during the matches or segments, they don’t really care. The only impact that happened was the big boot that was all because Ember sold it like the goddess she is in the ring.

          • K. W. M.

            No, people don’t care about them. Thats why they are the breakouts of the year voted by the fans, this is why people ask for their merch the most at the moment, this is why people here on this site do love them, this is why they start getting heat more and more (your sound system does not work or you have ear problems, sorry if you didn’t hear the boos during their entrance, you can still claim they get no reactions, but you also say the sky is green) and this is why fans and officials keep praising them, saying that Peyton will be a future star. Yup, you proved you are a troll. All others here must be wrong then, you are the only one to see everything clearly.

            The only thing that bothers me is, that i read your comment and replied, because it is obvious you try trolling me. But it was too funny.

            congrats, you probably won the internet right now :/

            Be a winner, i will make myself a Depeche Mode day, they release a new album next month, yeaaaaaah

          • Miguel Orona Rodríguez

            Who is looking to win? You have your opinion and I have mine. Is funny that you are hearing reactions where nobody is. The fans barely boo them but you’ll keep mentioning the NXT award they got and the fans on twitter that don’t translate to the ones on the arena. Just like Liv & Aliyah are having tons of problems generating reactions.

          • K. W. M.

            This is why some people here said it is good that they start to get more heat? You again, speak four YOURSELF. And i just watched the entrance again, they do get heat. And thats the problem, you never said in your opinion, you started this like i must have been dumb or crazy or anyone else who thinks they are the current highlight of NXT. Stating your opinions as facts. No way to discuss something, and yes i felt a little offended and attacked. If your opinion is different or in this case the opposite: fine, cool. But not this way, sorry.

            And of course i bring up the award, because you said no one cares about them and in fact more care about them then the other nominees, which includes Ember or the complete stable of Sanity. This is why they got voted for it.

          • Miguel Orona Rodríguez

            Internet doesn’t always transcend to popularity in wrestling. Nikki Bella have massive following online and that doesn’t mean she’s more popular in WWE than Sasha, Charlotte or Becky to give you a few examples. I knows that I could state things as facts, and some of them are. Of course and when I said nobody cared, is not like NOBODY IN THE WORLD care. Its that they get very little reactions from the crowd. You were never attacked, if something I aimed at Billie & Peyton lacking on getting a reaction and impressing in the ring. Now again, that is my opinion and of course, this is compared to women like Ember, Asuka & Nikki who are getting reactions faster, being some of them less than a year in NXT. These girls have been there two years.

    • Sunny’s Therapist

      its taken a while, but Billie and Peyton have grown on me, especially Peyton. I was not a fan of her at all at first, but she is winning me over each time I see her.

  • conan_kun

    Off NXT topic, look like Kelly Kelly taking over Emmalina’s role
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C4w21TlWQAE_ZR6.jpg

      • conan_kun

        You wanna see her beat Charlotte, Bayley, Sasha, Nia clean

        • Robert Guerra

          Don’t know about him but I do.

          • Ev #RookieOfTheYear??????????

            Why?

          • Robert Guerra

            I think it would be funny if none of the women of this new era were able to end Charlotte ppv streak and the woman who is the personification of the word diva were

          • Ev #RookieOfTheYear??????????

            She’s just gonna bring the match standard down lmao. Stick her as a heel manager and I’ll be fine.

          • Robert Guerra

            She would be the perfect opponent to Charlotte and would show Bayley what a underdog is all about.

          • Robert Guerra

            The story writes itself

          • Maddox

            But since she is a veteran compared to Charlotte, can you really call her Ann underdog?

          • MK126

            Im sure if Beth can get good matches out of her then Charlotte can. Gail got a good match out of her on Superstars so im sure the new crop of women can definitely work with her. Plus shes going to the PC so she’ll have good coaching and training there… maybe she’ll be able to run the ropes correctly. Besides it doesn’t say how long shes gonna be at the PC so maybe she’ll put some time down at NXT before she gets back to the main roster

          • Sunny’s Therapist

            she’s really not bad if booked properly with the right people. remember when she defended the heavy weight title on smackdown for Edge? Her best match ever IMO.

          • Oop twins

          • Jonah Caryln Rentar

            no

        • Yes, in a 4 on 1 handicap elimination match.

    • glassjaw

      Ah well. It was nice while it lasted, good women’s wrestling matches.

      • You were one of those people “give women the chance before judging, I love diversity” on the newest signees post but now you’re typing this. Gotta love hypocrisy.

        • MK126

          Its also funny how people were complaining that the recent signees weren’t attractive and how they wanted attractive women to be signed… they signed Kelly back and now no one wants her

          • They don’t even know what They want

          • MK126

            I dont get it. Its not like shes being thrown into the title picture right away. Shes being sent to the PC cause they prolly know her looks wont let her coast by without backing up the talent they have.. especially if shes returning to Raw.

          • They do the same with Nikki. Even when out of title scene they still complain and are like “I’ll stop watching if she wins the title” but make several excuses for Raw women winning it left and right. Kelly will do good if they don’t rush her.

          • howie_ruhl

            The people I can see complaining about Kelly now were the people who were happy with the new recruits. I’m not complaining about Kelly YET but I wouldn’t be surprised if I end up doing so. I mean, the absence of a proper training ground during her time was no excuse for her meh ring work. Candice, Layla, and Michelle McCool pretty much attests to that.

          • MK126

            Candice went out of her way to enroll in a wrestling school. Michelle was is DSW for a while and then when she first got injured and repacked she was sent back to DSW for more training. Layla i dont know lol but i do understand what you mean. Its just unnecessary to complain about her coming back when it even says she’ll be at the PC for a few months and will probably debut at SummerSlam. Im sure she hasnt forgotten how to do half the stuff she learned and if she did forget shes got top coaches to make sure shes taught correctly. I doubt Regal is gonna let her coast by just cause shes “Kelly Kelly”

        • Wrestling.fan.from.France

          I think these people have a personal issue with Kelly more than anything.

          Personally, I can’t say that I didn’t like her because despite the fact that her in-ring skills weren’t that good, she was too likable for me not to like her and that’s something she’s had over many.

          However, I see why some people are afraid since well, she never been that great of a wrestler but well, like you said, as long as they keep her in the PC long enough and not rush anything, it can be “fine” but one thing I don’t like, is this need of bring this much former women as if it’s needed. I love seeing past female return but we have enough talent and Micke was one thing but I don’t want to see like too many people coming back and take the spotlight out of the new girls.

          • Yeah, I think its that.

            But she was in an era where she had to look good and be competent at least to be pushed, but she had that popularity edge over others which made her stand out.

            Ofc she won’t be good after 4 years but if it’s true, good NXT training and her preservance should do good for her. I also don’t want many women back, 2/3 more at most, the division is in a good state, it’s not like they’re screaming for help. We’ll see.

    • Ev #RookieOfTheYear??????????

      It doesn’t say anywhere that she’s taking Emmalina role what are u talking about?

    • Montel Porter

      I don’t mind Kelly coming back as long as she gets proper in ring training this time.And I wanna see her as a heel this time around.

      • Missus Lee ? #DaTrueQueen

        YESSSSSS THIS

    • MK126

      hmmm this summer? Maybe return to the main roster in time for SummerSlam? Few months down at the PC can do her good. I’m all for this

    • Wrestling.fan.from.France

      I mean she’s a great face character but… She will need much more time than what they are giving her in order for her to be ready enough… She used to be capable with a decent worker and especially by the end of her career (even tho a lot won’t admit it) but she left when she showed this much bigger improvements and I can’t see her coming back and impressing but who knows, SDR may do wonders…

    • Exotic

      QUEEN READY TO END CHARLOTTE PPV STREAK, BE THE ULTIMATE BABY FACE OF THE DIVISION, AND BRING BACK THE SEXY IN WWE.
      THE 4HW ARE SHOOK TO THE CORE..

      • Pearlita Marie McGee

        I can see Sasha, Charlotte and Bayley hating on Kelly big time if that happens.

    • Missus Lee ? #DaTrueQueen
  • Ev #RookieOfTheYear??????????

    It makes no sense having Peyton vs ember VS liv? Billie just pinned liv so shouldn’t she atleast be involved?

    • punisher

      I think she’s not involved because she lost to Liv in a singles match last week? Idk just trying to find some logic

  • glassjaw

    Billie gets the pin but not entry to the number one contendership match? Must say, the match set ups in the NXT’s women’s division are pretty poor these days.

  • Ev #RookieOfTheYear??????????

    I would’ve booked things so differently ugh. This is how I would’ve booked the takeovers:

    Takeover San Antonio
    Have ember vs Billie, build it on How iconic thinks ember is always trying to steal the spotlight, have a battle royal for the no 1* (have Nikki c win) and have ember eliminate Billie but Billie comes in and eliminates ember. I’d have ember beat Billie.

    Also have Asuka vs Nikki, make it a really intense and close battle. Lots of near falls but Asuka eventually gets the win. Post match have Asuka and Nikki stare off with it seeming things aren’t over between the two

    Now building up to takeover Orlando have the “Asuka vs everyone” thing they done for San Antonio. Have Peyton claim she should be champ, Nikki want a rematch and ember is in a roll. I’d have Peyton vs Asuka with Nikki attacking for the DQ ember can save Asuka leading to a tag match the next week with Nikki attacking everyone

    So takeover Orlando is ember VS Peyton vs Asuka vs Nikki. Have ember win and Asuka turn. The whole “this is Asuka a biggest challenge yet thing” would be amazing for a big stage like this.

    • Exotic

      At this point they might as well just throw out an gauntlet match, cause it so damn boring with everything they are doing.

    • There’s no way they’d do a fatal-4 way two Takeovers in a row. Especially with three of the same girls.

      • Ev???

        Did you read the whole thing lmao? This is how I would’ve booked. Read the whole thing before commenting.

  • Cathy Kelley.

    NXT Women’s Division is just a mess, it’s like they don’t know what they’re booking. It also bothers me how they can’t have other women’s feud, they have a lot of women in the back doing nothing. Daria disappeared, Mandy hasn’t had a match since October and Aliyah is just there, I can’t seriously.

    • Sunny’s Therapist

      i was wondering where Daria went, and Mandy as well. There’s so much to work with and it seems like theyre limiting themselves.

  • saul de la efe

    WTF? ember getting thrown out of the ring that easy and just walking away like nothing happenned? isn´t she their “asuka´s stop”? this NXT writers needs no step their game up cuz this is turning into RAW division charlottte=Asuka +jobber field
    and asuka needs to be shown every episode, WTH is wrong with this? eghhh
    http://49.media.tumblr.com/7dcfe8fc35149c64cdc4292e1f736201/tumblr_o1jdv5oHuB1ql5yr7o1_500.gif

    • Sunny’s Therapist

      upvote for the gif

  • Ollie Byron Roché

    I really cant take Liv Morgan seriously. Ember Moon is one of my favourite indie girls as Athena but her booking has been pretty lackluster. Billie and Peyton seem like a real duo to not mess with and not just mean girls or 2 random girls thrown together like we normally see. I hope in the future they have good things to come. All I want now is for Daria Berenato to be featured more often.

  • Femme Fatale Venus Fly

    Another week, same basic Liv.

    I had such high hopes for her after her matches with Eva and Emma, but now she’s really disappointed.

    Maybe she can prove me wrong in the coming months, but right now, I am just not a fan.

    But really good showing by Iconic & Ember, I honestly don’t get why Billie isn’t in next week’s match, but it’s whatever.

    • Ollie Byron Roché

      Liv is the queen of basic. She’s like this eras Kelly Kelly

      • I think this all the time. The way she wrestles is so reminiscent of Kelly Kelly. She just goes from spot to spot.

        • Ollie Byron Roché

          Exactly!

      • limfox

        Holla holla holla holla all my girls in the back say ooouuu cuz you know just how we do

    • Exotic

      Its her gimmick, name, attire, attitude, personallity..
      Honestly, she was someone to anticipate, and now its like “OK NEXT GIRL”

    • K. W. M.

      i have nothing against Liv, but Peyton desperately trying to sell those weak clothelines was really an akward situation :/

  • Exotic

    they might as well just announce Ember vs Asuka for the title, cause we all know its inevitable. Infact, they might as well just put the title on Ember just for the sake of it.
    #NXTrash

    They just gotta stop with everything, I don’t even look forward to the spoilers at this point.

    • Crazy. #RIPMae

      who’s this where are you from queen AJ Lee

  • Ollie Byron Roché

    Why do my come keep getting deleted?

  • I really don’t enjoy watching Liv Morgan wrestle. She’s a cute girl but when you have other babyfaces like Ember Moon and Asuka on the roster to compete with…it’s extremely hard to take her seriously ?

    • Ollie Byron Roché

      Exactly, they are in a whole other league. I mean you have aayliah but Peyton,Billie,Cross have years of experience and Daria seems like she could really be a threat in no time :/

  • Diva_Fan

    I really don’t understand NXT’s booking like why have Billie pick up the win in this tag match yet have a triple threat number 1 contenders match without her and include the two people she beat in the tag match ? And why has Nikki Cross suddenly been left out and not seen as a contender after calling out Asuka last week as well !

    • PoisonYourMind #PYM

      Yeah this booking is stupid Liv and Ember should have won

  • Dez

    I’m happy to see Peyton get a big opportunity as she’s been so impressive lately. Ember is obviously the no.1 contender though…why drag it out?

  • Ryan Leslie

    I remember loving Ember as “Athena” on the indies and I even ended up friend requesting her on Facebook and keeping up with her for awhile until one day I got a notiication on an app that I use called “who unfriended me” (it’s wonderful!) telling me that she deactivated her account. Not 2 days later I am reading on the dirt sheets that she is in talks with WWE developmental. I have anticipated this for a LONG time and I feel as if she does not have any real competition in NXT. The NXT of 2 years ago would have made Ember shine so bright, but with the current girls it is all that she can do to make them look good, much less keep herself elevated. She needs better competition. The sooner she is on the main roster the better.

    • Missus Lee ? #DaTrueQueen

      Agreed with all of this though I believe besides the Aussies/Nikki/Asuka in addition to the new talent they just signed and the women’s tournament rounding in the summer that we’ll likely see her elevated beyond measure with some wicked competition, BTW your profile pic absolutely slays me

      • Ryan Leslie

        I hope so!!!! And thanks ?

  • Kvngbalor

    Would of loved to see Nikki come out as the tag partner i mean shouldn’t she want revenge they did put her through a table and essentially keep her from defeating Asuka her character suppose to be unstable so her switching from heel to tweener us fitting then after Liv was pinned Nikki could of went after Billie and Peyton with a chair swinging it all around the ring ran then off and then start screaming Asuka into the camera

  • Troy Rochester

    Instead of this Triple Threat match they should of had a number 2 contenders Battle Royal instead Billie vs Peyton vs Liv vs Ember vs Nikki vs Alliyah vs Daria vs Mandy with the winner facing Asuka !

  • Raekon

    Even I liked the Outing and the match with the duo picking up the win, the writers Need to reallly step up their game. After the head writer went to SD, Things became a huge mess down in NXT. The women are booked left and right, there is no real continuity and they are mixing up live Event stuff that are not cannon to the tv storylines, with the tv appearances.
    Like others said it doesn’t make sense that peyton will be in the triple threat match, most of all since she got the pin from asuka in the fatal 4 way match and had no wins since then. The only reason they are doing this is because Peyton and Asuka worked live Event Championship Matches almost the whole last year so they want to Transition this on tv and Show a match that is obviously VERY predictable when it comes to the outcome. Which brings us back to square one with a undefeated Asuka and everyone else doing random things only so they have something to do at all.

  • PoisonYourMind #PYM

    What is all this Liv hate for? I personally adore her, she’s a great baby face. She’ll get there….. after all this is NXT it’s a developmental brand, so not everyone is gonna be an alpha female.

    • ThePeaceVibe.

      I love Liv as well. TBH she gives me more vibes than Peyton or Billie.

    • ralfikh

      She tried n thats better then not showing on tv every weeks..
      Love Liv.. Wish the booking is more mature.. Do u guys know Liv finisher? I still cant figure it out by now..

      • S/P

        I thought Liv was using a guillotine choke as her finisher, not sure though.

  • limfox

    So I guess they’re going to use March to build up Ember vs Asuka? So damn predictable.

  • Super Mateo

    Bullet points:

    -I’m puzzled as to why Billie Kay isn’t in the #1 contender match.
    -Triple Threat Spoiler: I read that Peyton won the Triple Threat….maybe it’s so Billie can interfere on her behalf?
    -Liv just isn’t clicking for me. I’m glad they toned down the Jersey Girl nonsense, but I’m still not feeling her. I feel she’s better off with a midcard feud right now rather than being in the title scene.
    -Ember is really good in-ring, but this face character is bland. I haven’t seen any fire out of her yet.
    -There hasn’t been any followup to Nikki getting suplexed through a table, other than Nikki screaming for Asuka? She’s not coming after Peyton and/or Billie? Come on, NXT. Cross should be right in the middle of this story.

    • Sunny’s Therapist

      i LOVE nikki cross. she’s like a crazy animal its so funny, and shes great in the ring. i demand more Nikki Cross.

  • Miguel Orona Rodríguez

    This was a boring NXT episode, the fact that Ember took her first loss in a forgettable tag team match (even when she wasn’t pined) is stupid, nothing comes out of it. Then Billie & Peyton fail to impress in the ring every time I see them, they aren’t hard hitters, the moves seen innovative and the delivery lacks of intensity. Liv looked super basic (in her biggest defender), this week I didn’t see any improvement and this is the girl that should keep trying different moves every week because these clotheslines, dropkick, bulldog combination is just not doing it for me. The fact that NXT hasn’t prepared a feud between Ember & Nikki Cross, Asuka & Nikki Cross, Ember & Asuka. Aliyah is not even being developed and is a better worker than all of the women featured today (except Ember).

  • Loving Billie and Peyton as each week goes by. I like that they are developing a unique move set as a team, but I think they are both lacking as individuals in the ring when it comes to moves. I think they both look good in the ring, they just don’t have much in their arsenal on their own.

    Liv is growing on me too actually, and to be honest I didn’t think that she would. She is getting better in the ring and showing more and more unique character as opposed to Carmella doing Nikki Bella.

    Ember was Ember, it was nice to see the Iconic Duo control her through most of the match. As has been said one hundred times these undefeated streaks are a little much, especially considering one girls gimmick is already that she is undefeated… To be honest though I think that WWE is obsessed with creating their Ronda Rousey and we are bound to keep getting these silly things.

    All in all not much storyline progression tonight, but I was happy to see solid ringwork in its place because this division needs both stories and to reprove itself in the ring, that the magic wasn’t just the Four Horsewomen it’s ALL women.

  • Mr. What

    What I don’t like is William Regal puts the losing team and only one of the winners (Peyton) in a triple threat to name a new number one contender. What sense does that make?

  • I love ICONIC, they are just the perfect tag team. Ember is definitely the best athlete ON NXT Womens Division, Liv Morgan was growing inside of me but now it’s just meh! Where the hell is Asuka every single week?

  • Miguel Orona Rodríguez

    Can we talk about this? I’m super excited! I loved Kelly, she used to be such a underdog!

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/280ea70140cf41ff761e98b5a53c0d42cfed310ef70d15e34d681cece54e1cb3.jpg

    • Gail-Rollins

      Well the women’s revolution was fun while it lasted I guess…I just threw up a little in my mouth.

      • glassjaw

        We’re not allowed to judge apparently. We’re supposed to forget all the years we watched Kelly wrestle (or try to).

        • PoisonFelino #Watermelondrea

          Yeah, we’re horrible human beings because we don’t suffer from memory loss.

          https://media.giphy.com/media/2oWmDaSaDjkre/giphy_s.gif

          • glassjaw

            We should follow each other! You seem quite my type!

          • PoisonFelino #Watermelondrea

            Haha thanks. I definitely enjoy your comments but I’ve set my settings on disqus to private so i don’t think ppl can follow me unless there’s a way to accept follow request on private profiles.

          • glassjaw

            Ah. No worries my friend! I enjoy your commentary also! :)

      • Miguel Orona Rodríguez

        Hope you got that mouth clean since it could stink. This wouldn’t be a step back, WWE is still hiring women that aren’t wrestlers to NXT so they could train them. If Kelly is getting the Emmalina character, it would be fitting since they are looking for something like Sable or The Kat.

      • Welchy

        Lmaooo omg stop

    • Missus Lee ? #DaTrueQueen

      Honestly I would’ve preferred Summer to take this role and I’m worried this might push Emma back quite a few steps since they think she was “unfitting” to carry it out (which will really piss me off because she was great the way she was and on fire) but if this enables us to see Heel Kelly then I don’t really mind, it’s interesting considering most of the TD cast is on SD! and at the same time Raw’s roster is limited and even more desperate for faces now that Sasha’s about to turn but this would just BEG for an interaction with her considering whether people like it or not she was one of the most popular girls in the Diva era

      • Miguel Orona Rodríguez

        Well I think this won’t be happening:(

        • Missus Lee ? #DaTrueQueen

          Heel K2??

    • PoisonYourMind #PYM

      Kelly is gonna need to work some of that ring rust off. I dont see her just returning and going straight to wrestling matches. I imagine her needing at least a month or two before she starts getting back into it.

      • Miguel Orona Rodríguez

        I don’t see her much in the ring neither, I’m actually looking forward to see her doing what Emmalina was supposed to do.

  • glassjaw

    Love when bitch twinks I have blocked still reply to my comments. Yas. #cunts #longlivethedivas

    • PoisonFelino #Watermelondrea
      • glassjaw
        • PoisonFelino #Watermelondrea

          Oh my gambas! I dooo xD

        • PoisonFelino #Watermelondrea

          Wait a minute… is that the”Sitting on the toilet now flush”- girl?

          • glassjaw

            I have no idea. I literally typed in “mmm hmm gif” into google ? Mess, as the kids say!

          • PoisonFelino #Watermelondrea

            Hahha ohh I see XD

          • glassjaw

            Evidently I’m not really fluent in gif ?

          • PoisonFelino #Watermelondrea

            Oh don’t worry, I’ll take u under my wings.
            We’ll be the Tara and Brooke Teasmacher of gifs xD

            actually I only knew that cause a friend once showed me that YouTube video ahhah.

  • OJ Von Erich

    Nothing much to say here, it was an okay match, better than nothing at all.

    Is this basically just going to be a rematch of the 3-way in Australia, but with Peyton instead of Billie?

    Absolutely no logic behind the #1 contender match booking for next week:

    Ember pinned Billie
    Ember pinned Liv
    Liv pinned Billie
    Billie pinned Liv

    Liv is in the match, yet Billie isn’t?
    Peyton gets a spot out of nowhere?

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  • Jorge Hernandez Moran

    Billie Kay is so fierce but her gear dont reflect that, they kinda look cheap and off the rack, WWE has amazing designers and seamstress i wish she would get something that better fits her and Peyton’s Femme Fatale gimmick

    • Missus Lee ? #DaTrueQueen

      I hate the material, she would look so damn stunning with more lace

      • Jorge Hernandez Moran

        Right that material looks cheap

  • ?K . A . T ?

    Billie got the pin shouldn’t she be in the #1 contender match? Anyways at this point I would prefer if Peyton was the one to beat Asuka at Orlando, I feel she is more ready than Ember at this point. They should build on Ember some more before they launch her into a title feud. Plus Peyton has been really impressive since Takeover. Although I wouldn’t mind seeing Nikki get the title match at Orlando either, she dominated Asuka at San Antonio and then called her out but nothing happened? I wish they would put Asuka on more as well it feels like these days she does her TO match and then disappears until a few weeks before the next one to build a story, I want to see more of my fav. As for everyone else where are they?

    • Missus Lee ? #DaTrueQueen

      Wouldn’t mind Peyton dethroning Asuka, like you said she’s been really impressive and plus with the pre-set list of expected champions next in line I think it would throw everyone off and bring a new refreshing atmosphere to the division. It would plant diabolic seeds in her partnership with Billie in the long run and they could eventually have a battle royal involving Aliyah and Mandy and introducing the likes of Bianca, Heidi and Kimber Lee among others and open many more doors, even though I would equally love Ember being “the one”. I for one am all in for a Nikki vs Ember feud with or without the title too

      • ?K . A . T ?

        Completely agree with you! I really wish Ember/Nikki would’ve feuded from the second Ember got here because I think it would’ve been so good for both of them and I have no doubt they could pull out some incredible matches. If Peyton were to get the title I would love to see her & Billie feud over it and then down the line her & Ember. I can’t wait for Kimber & Heidi to make TV especially Heidi (been a huge fan of hers for a while now). I think it would be cool to see Heidi & Kimber in a feud with Mandy & Daria.

  • PoisonYourMind #PYM

    It would’ve made more sense if Liv and Ember’s team won since both are in the triple threat. Either Liv or Ember should have pinned Billie since she’s not in the triple threat. Messy booking…

  • ralfikh

    In a match if u not winning meaning u lost..
    Regardless who’s been pin/submit

  • Carlos?#canigetarefill

    I am really trying to get behind the ember moon character, i love the entrance and music but i miss Athena the chick who was calling girls hussies, and the rihanna rockstar music and the attitude and the outfits. Just imagine if ember got to come out to rockstar! That would be an epic entrance with the red moon, and the guitar riffs! Sorry i wanna see St Louis/Chicago/Dallas athena… It seems like her whole personality has been snatched.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2971afa3e91e35aa6a6e71c0c4bcdbe4b3b4431b13951fd80a04452d992a62f4.gif https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/25ed7a14c9695da6c3df8fa7956f9f7d505fcb98b6fa72ccc3cc35ec707d9a01.gif https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/43fc1362e9b37cfc672b04a74f30b8364c447f49ba5180059c9adadeb20f50da.gif https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/50dafcf8b4483f70f36c0d5b1884c8aca7fbc0f1b3c2e605dc6fbde22bcb223b.gif
    https://youtu.be/lwhtwt-LPWM

    • Missus Lee ? #DaTrueQueen

      Yasss at all of this, with the minimal time afforded lately the lack of build for her character depth is scary considering she’s being primed as “the one” destined to ultimately take down Asuka with Nikki licking her chops in the shadows, I wish like you said they would give her some free range and let her be the badass no-shit taking Goddess she was on the circuit. Like have her keep calling out Asuka or flesh out more of the drama with her and the Icons. I feel as though they’re waiting for her to get more situated in the title picture before they’ll start expanding on her.

      • Crazy. #RIPMae

        who’s this where are you from you’re iconic!

        • Mrs. Banks-Lee ? #CrazyBoss

          You’re TOO sweet LOL you’re an icon yourself!! It’s funny you ask, I used to lurk on RW for a bit, read the RPs etc. and got some motivation to finally make an account when DD opened back up and dedicate it to celebrating Queens and Goddesses only ;D

          • Crazy. #RIPMae

            that’s great omg why didn’t you join the RP then lol

          • Mrs. Banks-Lee ? #CrazyBoss

            IDK tbh, I’ve always been one of those “sit on the sidelines, chew my caramel popcorn and watch while giving major side-eye” types of bitches lol

          • Crazy. #RIPMae

            you should join it’s really fun tbh!

          • Mrs. Banks-Lee ? #CrazyBoss

            I’d LOVE to but TBH I would be too nervous and probably end up flopping FR, it’s been TOO long since I visited RW SMH

          • Crazy. #RIPMae

            do you have a twitter ? not personal Twitter but just twitter

          • Mrs. Banks-Lee ? #CrazyBoss

            Nah because the stan wars on there give me anal bleeding

          • Mrs. Banks-Lee ? #CrazyBoss

            Why?? I would need one for that right?

          • Crazy. #RIPMae

            you can just make a random one lol like RWcrazyboss or whatever so I can DM you or whatever for stuff mine is RWAJLee

          • Mrs. Banks-Lee ? #CrazyBoss

            Do I need an RP character first or can I just use #crazyboss like you said?

          • Crazy. #RIPMae

            you can use crazy boss

          • Crazy. #RIPMae

            did you finish queen!

          • Mrs. Banks-Lee ? #CrazyBoss

            My messy indecisive ass has chosen to just keep the RP between you pros and icons lol

          • Crazy. #RIPMae

            scream girl stop you could be iconic

  • Zayniac. #Emre

    NXT’s logic is so mind blowing sometimes.

    Billie Kay has pinned Liv Morgan for the victory with a double team move WITH Peyton, which means Billie and Peyton looked superior and Ember was not hurt by this loss since she did not take the pinfall, but NXT goes with the route of shoving Liv down our throats by giving her the spot in next weeks Triple Threat? WHAT?

    If y’all wanted Liv to be in this match so freaking bad, you could have also put Billie Kay in the match to make it a Fatal 4 Way like it ain’t that hard.

    Overall NXT this week has been super trash besides Trent Seven vs. Tyler Bate in the main event, which had a very slow beginning as well.

  • PoisonFelino #Watermelondrea

    Billie Kay wins the match for her team, Liv eats the pin and yet Billie is the only one left out of the #1 contenders match because logic.
    Not like she would’ve won anyway but it’s not really consistent.

    • Diva_Fan

      A bit like when Ember pinned Billie a few weeks ago yet she was left out the Fatal four way at Takeover … honestly NXT booking is really confusing !

      • PoisonFelino #Watermelondrea

        Wow, I forgot about that.
        “You’ve won a match? Here’s your reward. You’ll be left out of a title match!!!” XD at least it’s a becoming a consistent pattern.

  • PoisonFelino #Watermelondrea

    They should start fueds between Aliyah, Mandy, Daria and Danielle Kamela to get this women on tv and have them be more involved in the division.

  • i enjoyed nxt this week as i do every week

  • K. W. M.

    Did you guys notice that Billie & Peyton start connecting with the crowd more and more? They get more heat every week :) Especially because they seem to become a threat to the faces, after they just have been jobbers for everyone before. Like it.

    • Crazy. #RIPMae

      hey omg follow me back on twitter!

  • Gabriella Panajotova

    Nothing to write home about other than that it makes no sense why this match happened when it plays zero role in who’s getting a #1 contendership.

  • Its great that Peyton and Billie are gradually drawing heat from the crowds and even trash Liv is showing improvem… Anyways I just need to see more of a character from Ember, we know she can go in that ring but please someone give her a bit of character and maybe more mic time for me to root for her. CHARACTER IS KEY.

  • Lushluke

    She the real future of wrestling

  • Cailumm #LittleMissBliss

    Billie and Peyton need a proper tag name. The iconic duo as cute as it is just won’t work as a tag name tbhh:(

  • Cailumm #LittleMissBliss

    Overall Billie and Peyton slayed again just like they do every week. Emeber despite loosing countinues to look strong and Liv is just Liv don’t really expect much from her and genuinely thought she would expand her character and movset.

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  • Dez

    Specific to NXT– Nikki Cross is all hype. Hasn’t she only had like 3 matches since she debuted?

  • Welchy

    NXT is full of talent wow
    & also there’s Billie Kay.

  • MyleneCruz

    If Billie and Peyton aren’t in 2k18 I will not buy the game. And I want their duo entrance.

  • Jonah Caryln Rentar

    wow!